📡 NCAA vs Ole Miss: FOI request rejected by Ole Miss

[TUSKtimes]

What do you know, Freeze has survived to coach spring ball. The odds of making it to fall camp seem astronomical.

 

[PhillyGirl]

What are the odds of Ole Miss going unpunished? I'm honestly surprised it took this long for accusations to come out, let alone actual repercussions.

 

[PurlJam]

What are the odds of Ole Miss going unpunished? I'm honestly surprised it took this long for accusations to come out, let alone actual repercussions.

The self imposed one year bowl ban is a joke. With what they lost from last years 5-7 team (ranked last in SEC for returning starters), making a bowl this season may be a pipe dream anyway.

 

[OldPlayer]

Nothing will be resolved before Fall so Freeze will coach one more season. Start making a list of coaching candidates for 2018.

 

[planomateo]

The self imposed one year bowl ban is a joke. With what they lost from last years 5-7 team (ranked last in SEC for returning starters), making a bowl this season may be a pipe dream anyway.

That's in addition to a reduction of 11 self-imposed football scholarships they did last year...1 for 2015, 2 for 2016, 4 for 2017, and 4 for 2018. I don't think either of these is enough, but it's the NCAA.

Freeze will lose his job (Ole Miss will fire him for cause and won't owe him anything), he's been caught up in several Ole Miss related NCAA issues in his time at Ole Miss (this time and previously) AND the AD might be caught up in this as well. This isn't just football violations.

Some are saying this could get really ugly.

 

[TerryP]

Nothing will be resolved before Fall so Freeze will coach one more season. Start making a list of coaching candidates for 2018.

I'm leaning that way as well. But, they're doing things there that have defied logic. Who knows what the Chancellor may think today only to change his mind tomorrow.

I believe Bjork goes down with the ship as Freeze, on the bow, continues testifying about persecution

 

[bama alum]

I'm leaning that way as well. But, they're doing things there that have defied logic. Who knows what the Chancellor may think today only to change his mind tomorrow.

I believe Bjork goes down with the ship as Freeze, on the bow, continues testifying about persecution

Completely agree. That ship will be crashing through to the depths, and Freeze will still proclaim, "You guys never proved anythi-" (drown).

 

[It Takes Eleven]

I hope he coaches this fall, just to see them complete their return to being Ole Miss again.

 

[PurlJam]

That's in addition to a reduction of 11 self-imposed football scholarships they did last year...1 for 2015, 2 for 2016, 4 for 2017, and 4 for 2018. I don't think either of these is enough, but it's the NCAA.

Freeze will lose his job (Ole Miss will fire him for cause and won't owe him anything), he's been caught up in several Ole Miss related NCAA issues in his time at Ole Miss (this time and previously) AND the AD might be caught up in this as well. This isn't just football violations.

Some are saying this could get really ugly.

May get ugly the first game.....South Alabama may go all Mississippi State on them.

 

[Max]

INDIANAPOLIS — Here is the industry buzz being discussed at this week’s NFL Combine festivities, which double as a networking opportunity for many college coaches, agents, et al.

One full week after Ole Miss football offered a one-year probation as further penance for its 21 NCAA violations, sources familiar with the program tell 247Sports that an internal debate is taking place whether coach Hugh Freeze should keep his job.

One camp believes Freeze should be retained regardless if the NCAA tacks on additional sanctions, including a second probation year. They see it as loyalty.

“They say, ‘Well, he took us to the Promised Land in winning a Sugar Bowl and beating Bama twice.' They want to stick with him,” one industry source told 247Sports.

The other camp believes that Ole Miss should take a tack of self-preservation, either suspending or firing Freeze almost immediately as a “sacrifice” to avoid the second year of probation.

That second year is of utmost important because it would entail players being able to transfer without having to sit elsewhere.

Freeze, himself, told reporters last week that he was “unconcerned” with his job.

But, based on what’s alleged, he’s subject to “cause” termination in his contract. It’s “amazing” to multiple sources that he would be retained, even if the issues for firing Freeze would waive any buyout considerations.

Last week, Freeze was part of a 20-minute, 52-second video the school released to explain its position relative to the NCAA’s revised notice of allegations. Freeze said during the video that he has evidence that exonerates him. He said he will present that to the NCAA’s Committee of Infractions in the coming weeks.

One agent surmised that the video was so long because Ole Miss sought to “filibuster” its response.

“They know no one is going to watch all of that video,” he said, “but it gives them something to point back to

Of special interest to many in the sport was the appearance in the video of Ole Miss chancellor Jeffrey Vitter, who opens the video and introduces AD Ross Bjork and Freeze.

“Are they all willing to go down with the ship?” one agent asked this week when the subject came up.

The sources were particularly surprised to see the chancellor, who has been on the job about a year, stick out his neck for Freeze. Some took it as a sign that the keep-Freeze camp might be onto something.

“But they could always find ways later to distance themselves,” one agent countered. “It’s still kind of early in this because we don’t know exactly what evidence the NCAA has. If they come in and lay down their cards and it looks bad, it’s hard to see how they could keep him. How could they?”

The Inside Read: Industry buzz on AD happenings, Hugh Freeze

 

[Max]

I believe Bjork goes down with the ship as Freeze, on the bow, continues testifying about persecution

That ship will be crashing through to the depths, and Freeze will still proclaim, "You guys never proved anythi-" (drown).

Of special interest to many in the sport was the appearance in the video of Ole Miss chancellor Jeffrey Vitter, who opens the video and introduces AD Ross Bjork and Freeze.

“Are they all willing to go down with the ship?” one agent asked this week when the subject came up.

The sources were particularly surprised to see the chancellor, who has been on the job about a year, stick out his neck for Freeze. Some took it as a sign that the keep-Freeze camp might be onto something.

 

[TUSKtimes]

I'm leaning that way as well. But, they're doing things there that have defied logic. Who knows what the Chancellor may think today only to change his mind tomorrow.

I believe Bjork goes down with the ship as Freeze, on the bow, continues testifying about persecution

Does the NCAA have the smoking gun? I have no idea why the Chancellor would risk this maneuver.

 

[TerryP]

Does the NCAA have the smoking gun? I have no idea why the Chancellor would risk this maneuver.

Would risk going down with this ship as well? Risk what? Keeping Freeze?

I thought this quote was telling. "The people over there live in their own world and believe that because they think they believe certain things that it will all work out fine," a former Ole Miss assistant told ESPN. "They all believed they were invincible."

Freeze's defiance could lead to Ole Miss' downfall

 

[TUSKtimes]

Would risk going down with this ship as well? Risk what? Keeping Freeze?

I thought this quote was telling. "The people over there live in their own world and believe that because they think they believe certain things that it will all work out fine," a former Ole Miss assistant told ESPN. "They all believed they were invincible."

Freeze's defiance could lead to Ole Miss' downfall

At some point, you try to get in front of the problem. It looks like their version of the big sleep. The Bama mess I and II quickly comes to mind for me. We never gave the impression we were proactive, and that in retrospect proved to be the most important characteristic in compliance. Saban has never suffered displays of complacency when issues have come up with fishing trips, school books, or the occasional bump rule. Compared to that stuff, the chancellor is dealing with a near death experience.

 

[TUSKtimes]

A former committee member, who asked to remain anonymous, has seriously tracked NCAA cases for more than 15 years and couldn’t recall a case with that many (Level I violations). (Violations used to be classified as major and secondary, which makes comparisons imperfect. Now they are broken up from Level I to Level IV. Level I is the most serious). “In terms of sheer numbers, I can’t recall anything that matches this,” the former committee member said. “I just don’t recall anything that’s more serious.”

Why is Ole Miss standing with Freeze against the NCAA?

 

[RTB X Bot]

 

[TerryP]

Scroll down on this a bit and read who was tweeting about this.

https://www.seccountry.com/mississippi/ole-miss-denies-foia-ncaa-noa

@It Takes Eleven You may know this. If their counsel has the NOA, does the FOIR have any "power?" If their law firm is out of state, wouldn't that be a different FOIR?

It's one of those things I don't know off the top of my head and don't want to get into looking for it this morning. It's not like this story is going away anytime soon.

 

[planomateo]

Believe it's a $100 fine for failing to comply with a FOIR request.

 

[TerryP]

Were to we're. It happens to all of us with auto-correct. That said, seems to be bad timing (10 at night) for an AD to be exchanging tweets with

Grand Imperial (@Orangwutang) | Twitter

this/them. That's the kind of thing one should be spell checking, ya know?

 

[planomateo]

So Lightfoot has the NOA, that's the play here?