🏈 GAME THREAD Mississippi State - 0 vs Alabama - 24 (Tide with second straight shutout of ranked opponent.)

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Quick look statistically (NCAA stats) how the two teams match up nationally. Green indicates advantage.

You'll notice that Miss State doesn't have a blocked kick, blocked punt, or defensive TD.
  • Miss State ranks 55th in sacks allowed. (LSU ranked 76th prior to Saturday night and moved to 89th afterwards)
    • Alabama ranks 4th in team sacks
  • Miss State ranks 18th in tackles for a loss allowed. (LSU ranked 62nd prior to Saturday night and moved to 87th afterwards)
    • Alabama ranks 8th in team tackles for a loss

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A quick look at Nick Fitzgerald this season (he's regressed or just flat out missing Mullen).
  • On the ground, he's averaging 105 RuYds per game w/ 9 RuTDs
  • In the air, he's average 157 PaYds per game, 10 TDs and 7 INTs (LSU is responsible for 4 of the INTs)

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I think they bring an interesting challenge to Bama this week. Mississippi State has the deepest d-line in the country IMO. The secondary isn't near as strong as LSU but they will put pressure on Tua early and often. The O-Line is going to have their work cut out for them.

Fitzgerald also provides a challenge that LSU's QB simply couldnt do, hurt teams with the run. I dont think he can do much with his arm but he will make some plays with his legs.
 
Didn't Bama have some Defensive player hurt last year?
Didn't Bama have some Defensive player hurt last year?

About 7 of them
I think that was the game where Holcombe

A lot like Jalen this summer, I was disappointed in how Bama fans reacted to the way he played in that game. He was held together with duct tape. If it wasn't for so many linebackers being injured, I seriously doubt he would have played. He was as banged up last year as many of the guys are going into this weekend.
 
I think they bring an interesting challenge to Bama this week. Mississippi State has the deepest d-line in the country IMO. The secondary isn't near as strong as LSU but they will put pressure on Tua early and often. The O-Line is going to have their work cut out for them.

Fitzgerald also provides a challenge that LSU's QB simply couldnt do, hurt teams with the run. I dont think he can do much with his arm but he will make some plays with his legs.
This has the makings of a tl:dr, but here goes...

There's a grocery store in my area that has a slogan that reads something like "more for less." It's not your Publix, Harris Teeter, or Whole Foods type of store. It's more of a "warehouse" type of environment--blue collar, if you will.

That's about the way I look at the MSU defense right now. I have suspicions, but don't feel 100% about how I look at the Bulldogs. I don't see them as deep as say Auburn, but I do see them doing "more with less." I'm still not 100% convinced what I'm seeing on defense isn't attributed to some of their competition.

Like last year, the biggest concern is the health of the team. I don't see a reason to play Najee. I doubt we'd have seen Devonta last weekend if Ruggs hadn't been banged up. While people point to Bama's depth a lot, the game against The Citadel the weekend following this one is needed. The Bama team is banged up.

Personally, I don't see the matchup to watch as being the MSU DL versus the Bama OL. I see this as a QB versus LB's game. It's a gap responsibility game if I've ever seen one. Since Moorhead has tweaked their offensive style a bit these past few weeks--playing more to Fitz's strengths versus playing with Moorhead's offensive scheme--Fitz is playing better than he was. As much as people criticize his arm, I consider it better than Burrow's.

I can see why people are looking at the numbers and seeing the MSU defense as being a more difficult challenge. I think they will be. When you look at rushing yards, passing yards, efficiency, etc., it plays into the hands of those that fret on games like this one.

However, let me point to one thing here--Louisiana-Lafayette. That's the most efficient passing offense MSU has faced this season. If you start looking at their season the second best passing offense is a Franks led Florida team.

If we want to take another look at defending the pass and take total passing yards into account we're looking at their best opponent being A&M.

Personally, I don't like the Bama -24 number. I'd put it between 17-19.

But then again...the way this defense has been maturing? It leads to a lot of "I think" this week versus being so sure about what would happen against LSU.
 
Didn't Bama have some Defensive player hurt last year?
Didn't Bama have some Defensive player hurt last year?

About 7 of them
I think that was the game where Holcombe

A lot like Jalen this summer, I was disappointed in how Bama fans reacted to the way he played in that game. He was held together with duct tape. If it wasn't for so many linebackers being injured, I seriously doubt he would have played. He was as banged up last year as many of the guys are going into this weekend.

I didn't shit on him, though.
 
I didn't shit on him, though.
I wasn't insinuating such. It was an attempt to draw an analogy.

I remember that weekend pretty clearly. There were people coming from left, right, in the middle, from heaven and hell...all of them banging on Holcombe pretty hard. Hardly a soul mentioned how banged up he was--one I can remember here. :devil:

Totally unfair to the guy in my opinion. Hell, he was already having a hell of a time with his diabetes last year and then being as injured as he was? It was never taken into account. Well, seldom is probably a more accurate word.
 
Moorhead on Bama:

Joe Moorhead's Monday press conferences start with a well-researched dissertation on the upcoming opponent, always complete with coach names, key players and statistics of note. He did the same for this week's opponent, but this one came with a caveat.

"I don't think there's enough time in the press conference or ink in the printer to go through all of his superlatives," Moorhead said of Nick Saban.

Moorhead and No. 18 Mississippi State (6-3, 2-3 Southeastern Conference) are well aware of the challenge that awaits in the top-ranked Crimson Tide (8-0, 5-0 SEC), but it is not a challenge they plan on attacking differently from the ones before it.

"We talk all the time in our building about the term championship standard, and quite frankly, this is what we're chasing. Alabama is the gold standard in this league," Moorhead said. "I told the team (Sunday) night, no one falls to the top of the mountain.

These guys work their tail off and earned the right to be there; it's our job to get up there and knock them off.

"Just because this week is Alabama, we're not going to say we need to crank it up because it's Alabama, but we have to have a heightened awareness that the margin for error is negligible. We're going to need great urgency, great precision and great practice."

Of course, the recent history -- Alabama's 10-game win streak and 31 of the last 37 -- makes the task seem more Herculean, but none of it is of concern for Moorhead. His only context is that of 2018, and that was enough to tell him one thing.

"You don't have to play a perfect game, but you have to be darn near close. You have to be in that range," he said.
 
I am hopeful that Bama will not be too far off mentally or physically from the LSU game. If #13 can be hot from the get go and get Bama in front by 14 then the game should play out for The King. Got to stop the big QB from making 3rd and 3 (over and over). Bama doesn't need to allow Miss State to get any confidence early in this game. Make their azz quit.
 
MSU hasn't really played a very good schedule, which leads a bit to their stats being skewed...

I'm not sure if they are a good team, or a bad team... so hard to tell.

What I do know is they won't hold us below 21 and they won't score above 21.
 
Know the foe: What to expect from Nick Fitzgerald and Mississippi State | BamaInsider.com

BamaInsider.com team writer Tony Tsoukalas asked five key questions about the No. 16 Mississippi State Bulldogs heading into Saturday’s matchup and The Commercial Dispatch's Brett Hudson answered them.

1. Nick Fitzgerald has put up better numbers through the air the past two games. What’s been the biggest change from him?

Part of it goes back to Joe Moorhead, who said he did a play calling self-evaluation after the LSU game and didn’t find the aggression he has become known for. On Fitzgerald specifically, they say he’s not overthinking things anymore. That's borderline impossible for us to quantify, but a closer look at the final three interceptions he threw in Death Valley, and some of the other incompletions from that game, do lead one to believe that was the case. RPOs are complex by nature, to a certain degree, but they’re also supposed to be run by quick, easy decisions; they believe they have Fitzgerald running the system that way now.


2. What are the biggest differences in Joe Moorhead’s offense compared to Dan Mullen’s?

The phrase Moorhead uses is, “same church different pew,” and that sounds about right. At their very core, they are both spread offenses that value the run but also value balance and attacking all parts of the field. They do so in different ways — Dan Mullen loves nothing more than a designed quarterback run, while Moorhead is a bit of an RPO maestro — but a lot of these basic concepts have similarities. Moorhead is also more willing to attack downfield than Mullen is. He is very much the explosive play guy, where Mullen’s best teams are methodical in what they do.

3. LSU wasn’t able to get to Tua Tagovailoa often. Will Mississippi State’s talented defensive line fare any better?

This is a defense that is best at pressuring the quarterback. Defensive linemen including Jeffery Simmons and Montez Sweat — both are expected to be first-round possibilities — play a big role, of course, but MSU brings a lot more than that. They love getting the safeties, Mark McLaurin and Johnathan Abram, involved in the blitz game and both are good at it; Erroll Thompson and Willie Gay are good blitzing linebackers, too. Defensive coordinator Bob Shoop even showed a good bit of corner blitz early in the season. The strength of this defense is in the front, while LSU’s strength is more concentrated at the back, so I imagine MSU may pressure Tua more than LSU did, but I don’t know how significant the difference will be.

4. Is there an under-the-radar player who could play a big factor in this game?

If it’s under the radar in a good way for the Bulldogs, it’ll be Jamal Peters and Jaquarius Landrews (if he plays, as he is day-to-day with an injury). McLaurin and Abram are good in coverage and cornerback Cameron Dantzler continues to have a sneaky good season; if they can get good coverage from Peters at the other corner spot (plus Maurice Smitherman behind them) and Landrews at nickel, they have a chance to be a real pain for what has been a dominant wide receiver group. If it’s under the radar in a bad way, it’ll be the tackles. Greg Eiland (left) and Stewart Reese (right) were a real liability early in the season, but they started rotating Tyre Phillips in some and all three of them have improved over the last month. That development (and the virtue of facing pass rushers less dominant than Kentucky’s Josh Allen) has taken the microscope off the guys, but it can get thrown right back on them if Alabama exposes them once more.

5. We heard Moorhead call Alabama the “gold standard.” How are players reacting to this matchup, and what is the vibe heading into the game?

I’m actually writing something about the Moorhead approach to games like this. When he was the head coach at Fordham (FCS school in the Bronx) they beat FBS teams twice, Temple in 2013 and Army in 2015, and they did it with a business as usual approach. They make sure the players know the margin for error is negligible, the last word being the one Moorhead used in his Monday press conference, but beyond that, they do everything the same, trusting their process to be good enough to beat anyone. Fair or not, I’d imagine playing Alabama as close as it did last year helps keep the intimidation factor in check, too. I’d characterize the general vibe as realistic, in that all involved know the task is borderline Herculean, but also that this roster is as talented as they’ve had it around here in decades. There have been far more outmatched Mississippi State teams in recent years than this one will be, and some of those games were closer than they should’ve been.​
1 Tony_Tsoukalas, Yesterday at 9:34 PM
 
Five questions as the Alabama Crimson Tide prepares for Mississippi State | BamaInsider.com

Alabama has already clinched the SEC West title with three games left in the regular season. However, the No. 1 Crimson Tide has no time to rest on its laurels as it faces another ranked opponent in No. 16 Mississippi State this week.

Alabama is vying for its 11th straight win over Mississippi State as the Bulldogs come to Bryant-Denny Stadium on Saturday for a 2:30 p.m. CT kickoff. Alabama is a 25-point favorite in the matchup, according to VegasInsider.com. Here are five questions to consider leading up to the game.

1. Can anyone stop Quinnen Williams?

At 6-foot-4, 295 pounds, Quinnen Williams has a hard time blending into crowds. It’s been even tougher now that the starting defensive lineman has become the face of Alabama’s vaunted defense. 


“I really don’t go out for real for real, so when I do go out people do recognize me,” Williams said. “It’s cool. It’s fun to me. I’m going to always have fun. I’m not going to ever let anything stress me out about it.”

Williams hasn’t had much to stress about on the field, either. He’s left that to opposing offensive lineman. The Birmingham, Ala., native is coming off his best performance of the season against LSU where he tallied a career-high 10 tackles, 3.5 for a loss, with 2.5 sacks en route to earning Walter Camp National Defensive Player of the Week honors.

Through nine games this season, Williams leads Alabama with 12 tackles for a loss and is second on the team with nine quarterback hurries. He’s the highest rated defender in the nation with a 96.2 grade from Pro Football Focus and has been mentioned by several draft analysts as a potential high first-round pick in next season’s NFL Draft. Although, so far the redshirt sophomore is doing a good job of tuning out that praise.

“I really don’t look at myself as a star. I’m just doing my job and handling my business like everybody else should be doing and everybody else expects me to dominate my box just like I expect everybody else to dominate their box. It just goes along with everything.”

2. Is Alabama’s defense catching up to its offense?

Don’t look now, but Alabama’s defense is gaining ground on its high-powered offense. Last week’s 29-0 victory over LSU was reminiscent of the stingy Alabama defenses of old as the Crimson Tide limited the Tigers to 196 total yards, including just 12 on the ground. It also marked Alabama’s first shutout of the season.

That didn’t go unnoticed by the players on the other side of the ball.

“We only scored 29 points, but the defense stopped them,” tight end Irv Smith Jr. said. “They didn’t even score. It’s a team sport, and both aspects of the game we need to come to play. The defense did a great job last week.”

While Alabama’s No. 1 scoring offense led by Heisman favorite Tua Tagovailoa generates the bulk of the attention, its defense is slowly becoming one of the nation’s best as well. The Crimson Tide ranks No. 7 in scoring defense, allowing opponents 14.1 points per game. Alabama is also tied for fourth with 31 sacks and tied for sixth in both tackles for a loss (72) and interceptions (13).

“I think it says we’re focused and that we don’t get complacent with where we are in the season,” safety Xavier McKinney said. “I think it says a lot, but of course we’ve still got a lot to do, a lot of work to do. We’re trying to improve, get better as a defense. I think we’ll keep doing that and we’ll get better from here.”

3. Will Alabama suffer a hangover against Mississippi State.

The company line at Alabama is that all matchups are the same regardless of the opponent or its ranking. That’s what Crimson Tide players are supposed to say, but following big wins like last week, it’s not necessarily how they feel.

“I mean, we can sit here and say it was just another game, but obviously it’s one of those kind of rivalry games everybody looks forward to and everybody circles on their calendar,” running back Damien Harris said of the victory over LSU. “So being able to win that game in a hostile environment — No. 1 vs. No. 3 in Death Valley, a night game, College Gameday, all that stuff - being able to come out and play the way that we played on all phases of the ball and have the kind of success that we had, obviously that’s an exciting thing for us. It was pretty exciting.”

As sweet as last week’s win was for Alabama, the time for savoring it has passed. Last season Mississippi State almost caught Alabama by surprise as the Crimson Tide needed a fourth-quarter rally to come out of Starkville, Miss., with a narrow 31-24 victory. While Alabama enters this weeks game as more than a three-touchdown favorite, head coach Nick Saban was quick to warn his players about taking this year’s Mississippi State team lightly.

The Bulldogs rank second in the nation in scoring defense, allowing opponents just 12.3 points per game. Mississippi State is also sixth nationally in total defense, allowing an average of 278.7 yards per game.

“Moving forward, the battle gets very internal in terms of putting the last game behind you and looking forward to the challenges and the test of the future, so you can't really be complacent or satisfied,” Saban said. “We need to put that behind us and get ready for the next team, Mississippi State, who is a very good team. They're 6-3, they have one of the top defensive teams in the country. Really good front. Really good pass efficiency defense. Hard to run against. One of the top defensive teams in the country.”

4. Will Tagovailoa break Alabama’s single-season passing touchdown mark?

Saturday could be a historic day for Tagovailoa as the starting quarterback draws closer to Alabama’s single-season record for passing touchdowns. Through nine games, Tagovailoa is three touchdown throws away from AJ McCarron’s mark of 30 set in 2012. With at least five games remaining this season, it’s not a matter of if but rather how soon the sophomore will take over the record.

Tagovailoa has passed for three or more touchdowns in five games this season but could find it difficult to reach the mark this week against Mississippi State. The Bulldogs have allowed just four passing touchdowns all season and rank No. 7 in the nation in pass defense, holding opponents to 167.2 yards per game through the air. Then again, Tagovailoa didn’t seem to have too much trouble throwing against tight coverage last week when he faced a highly-touted LSU secondary.

“Every ball we have an opportunity to catch, and he has a lot of trust in us,” Smith said. “So if he feels like he has a good matchup or if we’re open he’s going to throw the ball. It’s awesome having that trust with him and being able to make plays off of him.”

5. How much will Henry Ruggs III and DeVonta Smith play?

A lot of Tagovailoa’s success this week might depend on the status of receivers Henry Ruggs III and DeVonta Smith. Ruggs needed to be helped off the field last week after suffering a leg injury while blocking on a play in the second quarter. Meanwhile, DeVonta Smith didn’t record a reception in his first game back from a hamstring injury he sustained against Tennessee on Oct. 20.

Both receivers participated in drills during the media-viewing period of practice on Tuesday and appear likely to play against Mississippi State. If either or both are unable to play, Alabama still has plenty of options to turn to, including Jerry Jeudy, who tallied 103 yards on a career-high eight receptions against LSU.

“Hopefully, we can get that group a little more healthy as we go here,’ Saban said Monday. “It’s going to be important for us, especially in games like this.”​
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