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[ElephantStomp]

Press conference. On Capital HIll...with a bunch of doctors?

This is another lie that you have bought.

That wasn’t a “war on ivermectin”, again that was a convincing idiots to not put the shit into their bodies. Take here for example, it’s a parasitic medication for livestock (the stuff the idiots were buying from Murdochs, Tractor Supply, etc) pretty soon livestock ranchers couldn’t buy it because all the tin foil hat wearing idiots had hoarded it up.

This isn’t “another lie you have bought”, this is a saw it with my own two eyes and the ivermectin in feed stores absolutely showed zero benefit towards the virus

 

[Rsedge72]

I think sometimes you read shit and create your own narrative. Nowhere did I say any industry was wholesome…..Jesus man read a little.

Comparing gambling with pot is ignorant. Smoking pot can cause the same issues as smoking anything, but THC in itself causes no harm and all science (outside of religious shit) backs that. If you smoke like Willie Nelson or Snoop then maybe there could be issues, but THC itself causes no harm. THC cream for pain-causes zero issues, THC edibles causes zero issues.

Here’s what thinking like you got us….the absolute bullshit War On Drugs, that was an absolute disaster and waste of billions of tax dollars.

I’ll bet you’re of the belief pot is a gateway drug?

Not necessarily true, it all processes through your liver. it can cause liver problems. I have liver issues (was poisoned by bad medication). THC is one of the many substances I can’t introduce in my body any longer….
Just like anything else though some good some bad…..
I dont have a problem with people using marijuana, but when they drive by toking on it bad things are going to happen…

 

[musso]

@TerryP, does @ElephantStomp not believe the Feds will lie to justify “wars” on cheap medicines to benefit Big Pharma contractors even though he probably already admits the Feds lie to justify actual wars that benefit military contractors????

 

[TerryP]

@TerryP, does @ElephantStomp not believe the Feds will lie to justify “wars” on cheap medicines to benefit Big Pharma contractors even though he probably already admits the Feds lie to justify actual wars that benefit military contractors????

I like him. Seems like a good dude.

One of the funniest things he's ever posted was in a conversation about Fentanyl coming across the border and he linked the DEA / .gov website. When it comes to credibility the first thing I'm doing is going to a government site.

@ElephantStomp there are so many things drugs like that are used for...UNTIL it goes against the narrative about "you need to be vaxed." That's what happened, literally. This "horse drug" shit, while true in its own context, is a narrative you bought under the 'science' argument.

I struggle thinking how you don't understand how badly society was manipulated unless you are/were okay with that manipulation.

 

[TerryP]

Just like anything else though some good some bad…..
I dont have a problem with people using marijuana, but when they drive by toking on it bad things are going to happen…

Is moderation a term Webster's removed from the dictionary? It applies to everything: food, drink, ... well, I don't see a reason to moderate the number of times you have sex, but that's a different thread.

I don't have much of a problem with anyone doing anything ... until it reaches that point where I'm asking, "WTF?" You can call me a hypocrite and you'd be right: I look at different definitions of breaking the law, and why.

IE: Three hits this morning and I'm almost finished with this book. Been sitting on the deck, reading. All about that question, "why?"

@It Takes Eleven decent read.

Thrift books hasn't updated their script so the link looks weird...

Untitled GW book by Charlamagne Tha God

 

[ElephantStomp]

I like him. Seems like a good dude.

One of the funniest things he's ever posted was in a conversation about Fentanyl coming across the border and he linked the DEA / .gov website. When it comes to credibility the first thing I'm doing is going to a government site.

@ElephantStomp there are so many things drugs like that are used for...UNTIL it goes against the narrative about "you need to be vaxed." That's what happened, literally. This "horse drug" shit, while true in its own context, is a narrative you bought under the 'science' argument.

I struggle thinking how you don't understand how badly society was manipulated unless you are/were okay with that manipulation.

The ivermectin I’m speaking of is only used for livestock and it is in fact a parasitic medication.

It’s not an argument I “bought under the science argument”, it’s an argument bought by I have livestock and you don’t buy human medication like that from a damn livestock feed store.

Some in society were manipulated, but I like to call it grifted, but it isn’t my side. The people against the vax were grifted by politicians and people that knew they could grift people

 

[TerryP]

Some in society were manipulated, but I like to call it grifted, but it isn’t my side. The people against the vax were grifted by politicians and people that knew they could grift people

Umbrella. But let's go here.

How was I grifted? What politician influenced my opinion?

The Covid thread should still be in the database here. I can summarize my posts easily, "wait a minute." I followed science: not the payouts doctors were getting.

 

[Rsedge72]

The vax???
I can tell you this now that docs are not being threatened with losing their right to “practice” medicine. My doc said he will not take the shot, nor will he give the shot. If the definition needed to be changed to call it a vaccine then it’s not a vaccine. He said he makes plenty of money and needed no extra $$$$ to get his patients to take the shot….
Again my doc is a general practitioner and his wife is a heart surgeon!!!
His wife took the shot as required by whatever heart health organization that threatened her carreer…
She had a severe reaction to the shot, she was very sick for a long time…
Say what you want this is 2 very respected and connected docs…

 

[TerryP]

The vax???
I can tell you this now that docs are not being threatened with losing their right to “practice” medicine. My doc said he will not take the shot, nor will he give the shot. If the definition needed to be changed to call it a vaccine then it’s not a vaccine. He said he makes plenty of money and needed no extra $$$$ to get his patients to take the shot….
Again my doc is a general practitioner and his wife is a heart surgeon!!!
His wife took the shot as required by whatever heart health organization that threatened her carreer…
She had a severe reaction to the shot, she was very sick for a long time…
Say what you want this is 2 very respected and connected docs…

It pisses me off, even though several of these guys are my friends, that the government gave them bonuses for percentages of vets vaxed.

 

[Rsedge72]

It pisses me off, even though several of these guys are my friends, that the government gave them bonuses for percentages of vets vaxed.

Yep!!!

 

[ElephantStomp]

Umbrella. But let's go here.

How was I grifted? What politician influenced my opinion?

The Covid thread should still be in the database here. I can summarize my posts easily, "wait a minute." I followed science: not the payouts doctors were getting.

I myself followed the science, I read hundreds of literature on it prior to getting the vax, I waited a year, so as an educated scientist I followed the science and not the “payouts doctors were getting”…..

 

[ElephantStomp]

Umbrella. But let's go here.

How was I grifted? What politician influenced my opinion?

The Covid thread should still be in the database here. I can summarize my posts easily, "wait a minute." I followed science: not the payouts doctors were getting.

You were influenced, as I said I read hundreds of scientific literature both good and bad on the vaccine, for a year, I didn’t listen to politicians or doctors or anybody else, I read the science for myself prior to getting it, the only way somebody could come away with the opinion that it was bad is because they were influenced by the people that agreed with them not by “following the science”.

As I’ve said many many times I was and am against mandates or laws that tell people what they can and can’t do with their own bodies

 

[ElephantStomp]

The vax???
I can tell you this now that docs are not being threatened with losing their right to “practice” medicine. My doc said he will not take the shot, nor will he give the shot. If the definition needed to be changed to call it a vaccine then it’s not a vaccine. He said he makes plenty of money and needed no extra $$$$ to get his patients to take the shot….
Again my doc is a general practitioner and his wife is a heart surgeon!!!
His wife took the shot as required by whatever heart health organization that threatened her carreer…
She had a severe reaction to the shot, she was very sick for a long time…
Say what you want this is 2 very respected and connected docs…

Sorry she got sick, must’ve happened quickly.

 

[TerryP]

I myself followed the science, I read hundreds of literature on it prior to getting the vax, I waited a year, so as an educated scientist I followed the science and not the “payouts doctors were getting”…..

What science? The six feet apart? The masks? The shots that we were lied to about?

I'm sure there's nothing to see in the trials being withheld from the public for a half of a century.

 

[ElephantStomp]

What science? The six feet apart? The masks? The shots that we were lied to about?

I'm sure there's nothing to see in the trials being withheld from the public for a half of a century.

Come on man stay on topic here, we’re not talking about 6 feet apart or the damn masks. We weren’t lied to about the vax, this is you being influenced.
I’ll say it again- I read hundreds of science research papers on it prior to getting it with no biases one way or the other, so when I say I studied it I mean I studied it extensively, which is why I waited for a year to get it.

 

[TerryP]

We weren’t lied to about the vax, this is you being influenced.

It prevents the infection. It prevents the spread.

Outright lies.

I'm influenced by history here.

 

[ElephantStomp]

It prevents the infection. It prevents the spread.

Outright lies.

I'm influenced by history here.

You were influenced because it was only a few people that said that. The actual science literature didn’t say that at all, I knew it did neither of those things, so no you were in fact influenced by talking heads on tv

 

[TerryP]

You were influenced because it was only a few people that said that. The actual science literature didn’t say that at all, I knew it did neither of those things, so no you were in fact influenced by talking heads on tv

Are you fucking kidding me? "Only a few people said that" would be very ironic as something said to the people who lost their jobs.

What was it? "A dark winter?" From POTUS.

You can redefine history in some places. Ain't happening here.

 

[ElephantStomp]

Are you fucking kidding me? "Only a few people said that" would be very ironic as something said to the people who lost their jobs.

What was it? "A dark winter?" From POTUS.

You can redefine history in some places. Ain't happening here.

People losing their jobs has nothing to do with what we’re talking about, Jesus fuck man! We’re either talking about 6 feet and masks or we’re talking about a mandate, which I’ve told you I don’t fucking know how many times I’ve been against, but you continue to ignore that.

I’m not redefining history. Again I’ll say I AM AGAINST MANDATES!! I hope that was clear enough

Mandate has nothing to do with 6 feet and masks, so let’s stay on topic, mandates aren’t SCIENCE, you know what we were talking about….

 

[musso]

Stumbled upon this good article, relevant to this thread.
Americans have demonized drugs for decades. Now we’re doing them every day

Some choice excerpts:

Legalization and decriminalization measures across the United States have worked both to remove criminal penalties for drug use (which fell disproportionately on Black men), while also serving to destigmatize that use. This shaking off of the crusty, Reagan-era “just say no!” attitude may also skew reporting: perhaps it’s not that drug use is actually increasing, but rather that people polled by surveys feel more comfortable reporting that use.

Still, some daily drug use is still being reframed in a fairer light, one which views a regimen of cannabis or psilocybin as roughly analogous – culturally, if not pharmacologically – to caffeine. That is: the sort of regular habit that becomes so common as to seem, in Michael Pollan’s world, invisible.

Speaking of Michael Pollan, I can't recommend strongly enough the Netflix documentary How to Change Your Mind, based on Pollan's best selling book. It changed my mind on several issues.

We hope to illuminate the experiences of the modern drug user, in order to help dispel some of that lingering stigma that sticks to phrases like, well, “drug user”. After all, whether it’s caffeine, nicotine, cannabis or ketamine, broad swaths of the global population use drugs, in one form or another. And drug use itself is best regarded as not just ubiquitous, but morally neutral: neither good nor bad, with positive and negative outcomes dependent on a range of mitigating factors, from dosage, to setting, to physiology.

Almost verbatim what I've already said in this thread.

Taking into account all the recent data, and the broader repositioning of the role of drugs in society, a future where office workers raise ceramic mugs emblazoned with phrases like “Don’t talk to me before I’ve had my sub-perceptual dose of LSD” may not be far off. For better or worse.