šŸˆ šŸ”Ž Looking ahead to LSU - Saturday night in BDS

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I have several thoughts that are rattling around in the gray matter…

1. I’m glad the game is at home and beating The Who is always great but it just seems better in BDS.

2, some have stated that The Who will be tougher to beat with Kelly gone. How so?

3. We only have 2 like teams to compare, vanderbilt beat them by 7 and USCe, The Who beat them by 10. Scratching me head.

4. Will we start slow after the bye week or go for the throat right out of the gate?

5. Will we see improvement in the running game?

6. Will the defense show improvement in stopping the run?

7. I realize we’ve been spoiled with the great receivers of the past because the majority of the time they caught the balls that were easy to catch as well as some wonky throws.
Will this factor be improved?

I look forward to y’all’s input.
 
HC and OC are gone. If the OC was the playcaller (I think he was), then we have to take their past playcalling scripts and tendencies. They may completely change their offensive approach. Look at UAB. Mortensen went from an up tempo offense to a much more deliberate pace. Still no huddle, call it at the line of scrimmage to prevent D subs, but a complete change. And he beat a ranked team doing that. Memphis turned around and beat a good USF team to rebound, so I don't think Memphis is significantly overrated.

So, I think there is an edge created for LSU through uncertainty. Are they going to materially transform their approaches on O or D? Will they be more aggressive on fourth downs? Will they play harder, with something to prove, or will they roll over?

We'll all find out together.
 
I have several thoughts that are rattling around in the gray matter…

1. I’m glad the game is at home and beating The Who is always great but it just seems better in BDS.

2, some have stated that The Who will be tougher to beat with Kelly gone. How so?

3. We only have 2 like teams to compare, vanderbilt beat them by 7 and USCe, The Who beat them by 10. Scratching me head.

4. Will we start slow after the bye week or go for the throat right out of the gate?

5. Will we see improvement in the running game?

6. Will the defense show improvement in stopping the run?

7. I realize we’ve been spoiled with the great receivers of the past because the majority of the time they caught the balls that were easy to catch as well as some wonky throws.
Will this factor be improved?

I look forward to y’all’s input.



.....Of course who knows...
But.......Lsu can't completely load a new O in 2 weeks with all turmoil they are already dealing with...
I see more........One or 2 series. Should know what's going on......
.and whats been going on...isnt much... the "wounded tiger" danger? ...always

....
Improvements in running game.....Christmas still 2 months away...
LSU has got some outstanding talent..especially on D...their hope

#1........glad game at home.... use to be...kiss of death....we had better record..as they did...away.... that was then.....they did win a few times at BD recently
I glad its at home...cause.....we be there...As you will...

4.......we havent really been staring slow...have we....i thought first series....we were kicking ass... my mine isnt getting old...so dont remember...using lot of clock...

Just catch the damn ball boys..we-be fine
 
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This game worries me more now than it did a week ago. They got embarrassed at home, badly. With Kelly gone, I feel think they feel like their "dark overlord is gone, and the chains have been removed. We've seen how Kelly treated current players on the sidelines and heard how former players spoke about him. None of it good. Now they feel liberated, and will come into BDS / SF like their hair is on fire and their asses are catchin'. I said preseason while all the heads were predicting LSU to win the SEC and the Natty, that it was all B.S. They have the talent, but they didn't have the coaching as long as Kelly was there. Well, the talent is still there, but Kelly isn't. Kelly hasn't been replaced yet so maybe this is all about nothing...we'll see. Also, this is the last time we'll play them for a while, so this game is a little more important now.
 
2) they may play more inspired for a quarter or two. No longer dealing with the narcissist dick on the sidelines helps to play more loose.
4) personally, I think with this team, DeBoer will have them prepped and ready. This bunch plays with a chip on their shoulder unlike last years group.
5) Like @TerryP said, it is what it is. We could see maybe more outside runs, but who knows.
6) the Corndogs aren’t really a run team and aren’t dedicated to it. Just have to set the edges, hit our run fits and tackle for 4 quarters.
7) it’s all about concentration and mindset. Like a DB getting beat deep, can you get rid of the last play and move on. If I drop it, can I get over it and make the next grab? My sophomore year of HS, I started out at receiver. First game, 7 targets, 5 catches, 1 drop. 2nd game, 2 targets 1 drop. Week 3, I was moved to QB.
 
1. I’m glad the game is at home and beating The Who is always great but it just seems better in BDS.

Bama pretty much owns them on both fields, but winning at home in front of the fans is always fun. And with it being at night, the atmosphere will be rocking.

2, some have stated that The Who will be tougher to beat with Kelly gone. How so?

I used the example of a shitty UAB team beating a ranked Memphis team days after Dilfer was fired a couple weeks ago. But teams tend to regroup and refocus after a major change like that. Often times, some issues and problems that were lingering under the previous head coach evaporate which I'm sure helps. But the advanced scouting and tendencies used to formulate the gameplan also become less reliable. Maybe their offensive staff now has the green light to do some things Kelly had overruled previously, for example. And now they have an extra week to install and tweak some of those things. It just brings more unknowns into the equation and makes gameday adjustments that much more important. All that to say, it is by no means a given than LSU will be tougher to beat... but it's a valid reason as to why they could be and probably should be to some extent.

3. We only have 2 like teams to compare, vanderbilt beat them by 7 and USCe, The Who beat them by 10. Scratching me head.

IMO, Vandy has played better and been the better overall team this season (compared to LSU). Not the most talented, but the best team, and the best coached. I do think Nussmeier's lingering injury impacted LSU's play to some extent in those games, especially South Carolina.

4. Will we start slow after the bye week or go for the throat right out of the gate?

A small sample size of history would say that Bama will come out of the bye week playing fast and sharp. In the 3 previous instances under DeBoer at Alabama, the Tide is 3-0 following byes, with wins over #2 UGA, @ #15 LSU, and @ #5 UGA. And Bama scored touchdowns on their first 2 offensive possessions of each game (I think).

5. Will we see improvement in the running game?

I think we will see an effort to be a little more creative. I think it's unlikely we see much improvement (at least consistently) on the runs up the middle. There are opportunities on the outside though that I think can be taken advantage of. Also, while it doesn't always show up as "runs" in the stats, some of the stuff they do with the WR's is really just an extension of the run game. And if they don't get too cute with it, there are again opportunities there, IMO.

6. Will the defense show improvement in stopping the run?

Let's break this down game by game... This is how many run plays went over 10 yards...

FSU- 6
ULM- 1
Wisconsin- 1
Georgia- 6
Vandy- 3
Mizzou- 5
Tennessee- 5
South Carolina- 3

That's not good. But, I don't know that it's as bad as some would believe. The problem has been the 2 or 3 busts a game where the opposing runner gets free for over 20 yards, and Bama is 2nd worst in the SEC there, having given up 13 of those runs. The busts need to get cleaned up. But as a whole, this defense is siting in a good spot. Yes, if Wommack wanted to shift things and shut down the run more, he could... but that obviously takes away from the pass defense, which Bama excels at (giving up just 163 YPG). But some of this softness on run defense is just built into the cake... both by its design and by personnel.

7. I realize we’ve been spoiled with the great receivers of the past because the majority of the time they caught the balls that were easy to catch as well as some wonky throws. Will this factor be improved?

The only player that has had a drop problem thus far is Ryan Williams. Yes, other guys have drops, but out of the 14 dropped passes (which is considered a catchable ball, not just something a player happens to touch on a leap, dive, etc...) Williams has 7 of them. Only 1 other payer has more than 1, which is Isaiah Horton who has 2. But, on Williams, 7 is a lot. However, 3 came in week 1 against FSU. Still, averaging just over a drop per game isn't ideal. However, we've seen good payers have the drop issues before. In '19 Jerudy had 7. In '20 Metchie had 6. In '21, Metchie had 8 more and Jameson Williams had 6. in '22 Ja'Corey Brooks had 5. As a team, Bama is on pace to be about average for what Bama teams have been in recent years, going well back into the Saban years.

But, yes, Ryan Williams needs to improve... IMO he has since the start of the season. He's using his hands more instead of his body and he needs to continue that as they work on making his hands stronger. The other part is mostly just concentration.
 
But some of this softness on run defense is just built into the cake... both by its design and by personnel.
When we said there were changes coming with the transition this is one of the better examples. It's similar to the differences we see in how this staff and the former groups used time outs to close out the half. DeBoer and company see it as a chance to score again. Saban and his staff were happy to just let the defense do their thing.

This new staff has skipped around the subject here and there but I caught the gist of what I believe is intentional. It was mentioned here a few weeks ago that the defense had giving up 400+ running. (UT, maybe?) People don't like those numbers and I get that. It's also the reason I continually point to "points per drive."

Here, "softness" can also be looked at through the lenses of clock management. Let's say the team gets the kickoff and they're looking at driving the length of the field on the Tide defense. The D bucks up when they get into the red zone. But, they also just allow that clock to run as the other offense is running.

Someone made an analog this week comparing what we're seeing with the run defense being a lot like what we saw when CNO arrived. That style of basketball was foreign. People, to this day, are still coming around to somethings just come with that style of play. A fitting comparison, I'd say.
 
Really a very dangerous game for Bama. Hopefully Ty will be on the mark this week since he is the main reason for Bama's success this year.

Kelly was just the typical obnoxious and overbearing Yankee, but he was the same at Cincinnati and Notre Dame.

There is talent on that roster, and I expect them to play relaxed without Kelly looking over the staff's decisions.
 
Really a very dangerous game for Bama. Hopefully Ty will be on the mark this week since he is the main reason for Bama's success this year.

Kelly was just the typical obnoxious and overbearing Yankee, but he was the same at Cincinnati and Notre Dame.

There is talent on that roster, and I expect them to play relaxed without Kelly looking over the staff's decisions.

Excellent points! LSU comes into BDS at Saban Field with absolutely nothing to lose. They can end up being the party crasher for several teams.
 

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