🏈 LSU vs UF: Fournette against UF defender: Penalty, or no?

[18Champs]

 

[jdpas29]

Yes that is a penalty. They missed it.

 

[TerryP]

Yes that is a penalty. They missed it.

It is in the NFL ... not sure about college (or offense for that matter.)

 

[bamaledge]

Oh, hell yeah, that's a penalty. That wasn't a stiff arm, he threw a freaking punch.

 

[bamaledge]

AND, I hope our boys put a beat down on dat ass.

 

[rick4bama]

Well if he had got caught it would had been. I think that Coach Saban will have the team ready for Mr. Fournette. Yes I knew first thing first UT.

 

[jlabit]

Your video shows an official very close in the foreground. That was a punch, not a stiff arm, and UF Coach McElwain needs to be talking to the SEC about it.

 

[bamaledge]

Your video shows an official very close in the foreground. That was a punch, not a stiff arm, and UF Coach McElwain needs to be talking to the SEC about it.

I agree, 1000%. That kid should sit out at least 1 game maybe more.

 

[Tidestalker]

I get tired of how the offensive players are allowed to basically grab the defenders facemask on a "stiff arm" and the offensive receivers can damn near tackle a CB if the pass looks like an INT. Wouldn't be so bad if the defense had a fair shot, but anymore if they breathe on a skill guy it's a penalty.

 

[UAgrad93]

At the least, it is hands to the face, 15 yard penalty. At worst, and probably spot on, punch thrown, 15 yard penalty and automatic ejection. That in no way was a stiff arm.

 

[JoshB]

Really a penalty? He destroyed that DB, didnt look he was trying to throw a punch to me. He was running hard and trying to fling the dude out of his way (mission accomplished).

At the least, it is hands to the face, 15 yard penalty. At worst, and probably spot on, punch thrown, 15 yard penalty and automatic ejection. That in no way was a stiff arm.

"Hands to the face" doesnt exist on a runner, stiff arms are on the facemask 90% of the time. Unless you grab the facemask it is not a penalty to touch the facemask.

 

[planomateo]

Really a penalty? He destroyed that DB, didnt look he was trying to throw a punch to me. He was running hard and trying to fling the dude out of his way (mission accomplished).

Kinda the way I see it too. He was trying to push him down.

I'm more ticked at the zebra's from our game.

 

[UAgrad93]

The zebras in our game were shitty to say the least. Watching the replay of that run of LF above from behind. LF doesn't stick his arm out and simply "stiff arm" the defender. He draws back and delivers a blow to his head. If hands to the face can and is called on OL and DL play, and a facemask can and is called both offensively and defensively, then this fits in that category. The question of a punch would be up to the official to call. Running towards your sideline with your coaches barking and begging for every call definitely helps sway the judgement.

 

[JoshB]

The zebras in our game were shitty to say the least. Watching the replay of that run of LF above from behind. LF doesn't stick his arm out and simply "stiff arm" the defender. He draws back and delivers a blow to his head. If hands to the face can and is called on OL and DL play, and a facemask can and is called both offensively and defensively, then this fits in that category. The question of a punch would be up to the official to call. Running towards your sideline with your coaches barking and begging for every call definitely helps sway the judgement.

It looked like to me the DB had a hold of his pants/jersey and his "drawing back" was him reaching back and swinging to fling the guy off. You can even see him pulling away at the same time.

 

[mrchase]

I guess it's a judgment call.......and I don't see it as a penalty.

 

[OldPlayer]

Really a penalty? He destroyed that DB, didnt look he was trying to throw a punch to me. He was running hard and trying to fling the dude out of his way (mission accomplished).


"Hands to the face" doesnt exist on a runner, stiff arms are on the facemask 90% of the time. Unless you grab the facemask it is not a penalty to touch the facemask.

I don't think players mean to grab a facemask or jump offsides either. Fournette was trying to break free, but he literally took a swing at the defender. He punched him in the head. Intent is not a qualifier in the rulebook.

 

[mrchase]

Question...... do you think he intentionally threw a punch at a helmet........mid play?

 

[OldPlayer]

Question...... do you think he intentionally threw a punch at a helmet........mid play?

Intent is not a determinant of a penalty. Nobody intends to hold. Nobody intends to facemask. Nobody intends to jump offside.

 

[ComeOnSon]

It looked like to me the DB had a hold of his pants/jersey and his "drawing back" was him reaching back and swinging to fling the guy off. You can even see him pulling away at the same time.

What? He hit the helmet with a closed fist. No question it should have been a penalty. Thought so live and after watching the replay.

 

[mrchase]

Intent is not a determinant of a penalty. Nobody intends to hold. Nobody intends to facemask. Nobody intends to jump offside.

That wasn't what I was questioning. .....