šŸ“” #LSU announces it will require proof of vaccination or a negative COVID PCR test taken within 72 hours in order to attend a game in Tiger Stadium

I agree with you, but I'm in the boat of treat your body right, eat good foods, exercise, and allow your body to fight.
Your call but I do not understand why you wouldn't help your body out in fighting it. Others who thought similar to you have regretted doing so. Of course I hope you are doing everything else to keep others who may be in worse shape not catch it in case you contract it without showing symptoms.
 
Your call but I do not understand why you wouldn't help your body out in fighting it. Others who thought similar to you have regretted doing so. Of course I hope you are doing everything else to keep others who may be in worse shape not catch it in case you contract it without showing symptoms.

But you don't know that it would help my body, or if it will eventually hurt my body. Why are booster shots going to be necessary? People are still getting and spreading it that are vaccinated, so what is exactly the difference other than you wanting me to get a shot? It's not my responsibility to make sure you're safe in public, just like you don't care about me if we walked past one another. I shouldn't be forced to stay inside so you can live your life if I haven't gotten a shot. If people are scared, stay at home. Are people not speeding, selling drugs, drinking and driving, fighting because they want the best for everyone else and don't want to spread bad fortune?
 
My frustration, to keep it in football terms, is the changing of the goal posts.

It's not hard to see why there would be a lack of confidence in the govt assessment and recommendations following the amount of misinformation and inaccuracies over the last year and a half. It's unfortunate that in today's polarized society, it's not OK just to admit "I/We just don't know all that much about ______________".

As in many cases, I can see positives and negatives in most sides of this issue. Ultimately the universities and most corporations are going to do whatever they can do minimize their legal overhead. And of course, unfortunately, optics can be just as or more important than reality in today's world. We all have to navigate in what we perceive as our own best interest.... RTR
 
My frustration, to keep it in football terms, is the changing of the goal posts.

It's not hard to see why there would be a lack of confidence in the govt assessment and recommendations following the amount of misinformation and inaccuracies over the last year and a half. It's unfortunate that in today's polarized society, it's not OK just to admit "I/We just don't know all that much about ______________".

As in many cases, I can see positives and negatives in most sides of this issue. Ultimately the universities and most corporations are going to do whatever they can do minimize their legal overhead. And of course, unfortunately, optics can be just as or more important than reality in today's world. We all have to navigate in what we perceive as our own best interest.... RTR
Companies have at least a couple of motivators rooted in money. Companies have to be able to stand in court and say they did everything they could do within the guidelines provided to keep workers safe. The flip side of the money is also that they can't afford to expose workers that would eventually lead to loss of productivity and dollars. They have to do something they believe that really prevents loss of work time. To me this is common business sense.

@Tidestalker said his frustration is they keep changing the goal post. It certainly appears that way but I think it is because they do not know everything but they will not admit it and try and act like they do. They have observations and are drawing conclusions but they can't explain everything yet. Throw on top of that ALL of the distrust and out of control media and politicians and you get the cluster we have.
 
Wife’s got a friend in Sacramento, had 4 kids. Hasn’t and won’t get any of them the miningococcal vaccines. Very strong stance against it and has been obnoxious about it for years. Guess what vaxx she was pushing hard for everyone to get when the Covid vaxxes rolled out… We’ve had more than a few laughs about it.

I will say this, it feels nice to be loved and cared about by so many strangers, they have my health front of mind. Maybe this is what God intended for us, to all love one another. Or does everyone have a selfish angle and just wanted me to get the shot to increase their chance of living by a fraction of a percentage point? Maybe I gave mankind too much credit for sincerity. Here I thought folks were finally putting other before themselves.

RollTide24 - 100% vaxxed by personal choice. 😁
 
There are folks getting the Delta that have been vaccinated. Very few end up in ICU. If you don't want to get it don't. IMO you should not expose other people. My mother is 88 and she is scared to get the vaccine for her skeptical view of the government. Nevermind that she has COPD, congestive heart problems, and she is on oxygen. She says if she gets it it is God's decision. We keep her isolated as much as possible. I don't know who is right, but I have lost a few friends. There will be a Charlie variant. It ain't over.
 
Because they're relatively uncommon, what are considered newsworthy these days are the hospitalizations and deaths of the vaccinated. it's a small portion of current deaths and hospitalizations, despite over half the nation having been vaccinated. Low vaccination states have crisis levels of cases right now. Some national daily case counts are exceeding those of the January peak, and the seven day average will approach its January high - but hopefully fall short.

I've attached the first three pages of today's daily coronavirus tracker from the Wall Street Journal, using the Johns Hopkins tracking data.
 

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Or does everyone have a selfish angle and just wanted me to get the shot to increase their chance of living by a fraction of a percentage point?
I get that many of you don't really care about anyone but yourself so that is fine.
Personally, I don't see it defined as easily or as broadly as you guys are describing others reactions and thoughts here.

Balance your thoughts versus this: A person may not care if you and your family get vaccinated because that person may feel it's none of their business.
 
I really should learn not to say anything around certain people. I get that many of you don't really care about anyone but yourself so that is fine. You don't have to get a shot, but I am tired of folks complaining that they should be able to do whatever they want and if someone else dies because of it then oh well.

You have actions you take every single day with those exact same implications. Nothing worse than pointing the finger at everyone else.
 
I am not pushing people to vaccinate. But people who refuse to should social distance and mask up. Otherwise you are saying that you don't care if you spread it to others. I am done.
I think you may be missing my point here.

Finances, religious beliefs, moral convictions, and a lot more fall into the category of "my business, not yours" in my life. It's not a lack of empathy towards others—it's none of my business.

A big difference in "don't care" and "mine and your privacy," make sense?
 
When it is all said and done all any of us can truly control and do is what we feel is best for ourselves and our families. I do not expect someone else to do that for me certainly not the government or others. Some people I know certainly have my back and what is best for me others do not. Been that way long before Covid and will be that way well after it is gone.

That leads me to what I see as actionable from my perspective, if I am in a place that I feel uncomfortable I remove myself from it (how you do that is a personal choice). To me this is not hard.
 
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May be wrong about this, but I am under the impression that the vaccines minimizes the symptoms, it doesn't prevent you from catching it and it does not prevent you from spreading it. So many opinions and shit floating around out there with "agendas." no one knows who is really caring about the masses.
 
I am not pushing people to vaccinate. But people who refuse to should social distance and mask up. Otherwise you are saying that you don't care if you spread it to others. I am done.
You can spread it just as easy as someone who is unvaccinated. The vaccine only helps the person taking it by limiting the severity of the symptom. Hopefully keeping you out of the hospital.
 
I wandered around for ten months during the pandemic, traveling, shopping, dining extensively, observing whatever protocols were in effect in the respective areas. Protocols in central Alabama, coastal MS/AL/FL, and Arkansas were all minimal, GA was a little more restrictive but not overwhelming. After ten months, I got Covid, and then I was vaccinated about 90 days after that. I plan to get the booster in December, or when it's recommended. If I don't get a noticeable case of Covid moving forward, I'll never know if it was the luck of the draw - like my ten months of wandering - or if it's the efficacy of the vaccine. If I don't have a heart attack this year, I'll never know if my exercising helped, or if I have one, if it hurt. We all practice prudent self-improvement and self-preservation. Vaccines are a subset of that.

As with many binary issues (vaccine or no vaccine, FG good or no good), the two camps quickly separate to each end of the spectrum. Let's just keep it as civil as we can here. I'm hopeful we are 100 percent on FG again this year, and we are 100 percent with everyone's health as well.

RTR,

Tim
 
Personally, I don't see it defined as easily or as broadly as you guys are describing others reactions and thoughts here.

Balance your thoughts versus this: A person may not care if you and your family get vaccinated because that person may feel it's none of their business.
I agree. But too many folks nowadays make my business theirs. We’ve got folks at church asking others at each service if they’ve had the vaccine. If you say none of your business they go off on you about how you don’t love others. That’s without even knowing if the person is backed or not. They assume a NOYB response is a response of no I am not vaxxed. Often a wrong assumption. I wish they were as aggressive on spreading their religious beliefs as they are at spreading their vaccines beliefs.

And on a side note, folks also force their business on everyone else when no one else really cares… Consider folks announcing and celebrating what gender they prefer to sleep with 🤣 I don’t want to know that guys! You sleep with your tastes and I’ll sleep with mine and we want tell the world about it. šŸ¤·šŸ¼ā€ā™‚ļø Watch out below, exiting the soapbox now.
 
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