🏈 Looking forward: Ole Miss vs BAMA

[Elderfalsedemigod]

Secondly, Ole Miss will pack the box and force Bama to not only pass but pass it deeper down field. You will see 8 in the box and the corners tight on the receivers.

I said following the MTSU game that OM will stack it up and dare Coker to pass. So far we have 0 downfield passing threat. Maybe Jake goes off for 250 down the field but he is going to have to do it before anyone respects the vertical game

 

[TheChief]

How did Ole Piss win the game last year?

They'll probably try that again this year.

 

[Elderfalsedemigod]

How did Ole Piss win the game last year?

They'll probably try that again this year.

Well they won't have Christon Jones to gift them a fumble on kickoff kickoff return so we do have that going for us

 

[psychojoe]

How will Ole Miss attack us? I have a feeling it will look a lot like the game a year ago. OM abandoned the hurry up in favor of a relatively conservative attack, and played to their defense. Their defense will be at least as good as a year ago. Chad Kelly is not another Manning. Last year they scored on a couple of breakdowns in our secondary. We will have KD (hopefully) for a full 60 minutes this time. We will have our wonderful home crowd there. Not saying it won't be a battle, but I think we win.

Isn't it a bit soon to be saying that our defensive changes in the off season won't work?

 

[planomateo]

That's a mighty serious look right there.

 

[Elderfalsedemigod]

Isn't it a it soon to be saying that our defensive changes in the off season won't work?

yeah I am not ready to bail on the defense at this point. Honestly IMO if Dom Jackson looked better and Coker looked better I would feel pretty confident in this game

 

[BigCrimson]

Isn't it a it soon to be saying that our defensive changes in the off season won't work?

Eh, possibly. But the first HUNH team we face from coming off an offseason of "re-tooling" how we handle them and we see the exact same problems. Way too many receivers running open in the middle of the field and in the seams. I'm still holding out hope but my gut tells me we are going to continue to have the same problems with these type offenses until we see some form of a scheme change or enough of a tweak in the current scheme to have a different out come. But as of now we keep having different players run in and out of this system and keep having the same type problems.

 

[bama alum]

Our OL needs to play lights out, no matter who the QB is. Looking at how Griffith missed those two FGs leads me to believe what someone else wrote in the Good, Bad, and Ugly thread about him not being healthy. (Rayburn at least gets the chip shot.) Therefore, the QB is going to have to do what he can to keep the Ole $i$$ D on the field after 3rd downs, so we're not put in that predicament.

Much, much easier said than done.

 

[DT55FOREVER]

How will Ole Miss attack us? I have a feeling it will look a lot like the game a year ago. OM abandoned the hurry up in favor of a relatively conservative attack, and played to their defense. Their defense will be at least as good as a year ago. Chad Kelly is not another Manning. Last year they scored on a couple of breakdowns in our secondary. We will have KD (hopefully) for a full 60 minutes this time. We will have our wonderful home crowd there. Not saying it won't be a battle, but I think we win.

Isn't it a it soon to be saying that our defensive changes in the off season won't work?

The problem is that there haven't been any changes. That's what I was saying. Weight loss is not a defensive scheme change. There defense is set up exactly the same as the previous 7 years. Three larger guys standard on the DLine with a Jack linebacker filling as an edge rusher. Same corner blitz that comes from the corner guarding the receiver that goes in motion or the receiver in the slot. The occasional middle linebacker blitz up the middle that gets stoned at the line of scrimmage. Now, they might come out against Ole Miss with a different set up. If they do, then I was wrong and they made real changes. Perhaps they didn't want to show Ole Miss anything in the MTSU game. I understand the 3-4 set against Wisconsin. Here's hoping.

 

[UAgrad93]

Eh, possibly. But the first HUNH team we face from coming off an offseason of "re-tooling" how we handle them and we see the exact same problems. Way too many receivers running open in the middle of the field and in the seams. I'm still holding out hope but my gut tells me we are going to continue to have the same problems with these type offenses until we see some form of a scheme change or enough of a tweak in the current scheme to have a different out come. But as of now we keep having different players run in and out of this system and keep having the same type problems.

Even though MTSU ran HUNH, their QB threw it 42 times 174 yards for an average of 4.1 yards per attempt! That isn't winning football!! As a QB, you want to average around 8.1+ ypa. There were no blown coverages or WRs running all by themselves. They completed 4 passes OVER 10 yards!! 4!!!! The biggest one went for 21 yards. Our secondary played sound, fundamental football. If the route was a 8 yard hook, IF completed, it went for 8 yards!!

 

[jdpas29]

I'm sure they could improve, but i'm not so worried about the defense. It's the offense i'm concerned with. Ole Miss is going to punch them in the mouth. It will be fun to see how this team reacts. Especially Coker.

 

[BigCrimson]

Even though MTSU ran HUNH, their QB threw it 42 times 174 yards for an average of 4.1 yards per attempt! That isn't winning football!! As a QB, you want to average around 8.1+ ypa. There were no blown coverages or WRs running all by themselves. They completed 4 passes OVER 10 yards!! 4!!!! The biggest one went for 21 yards. Our secondary played sound, fundamental football. If the route was a 8 yard hook, IF completed, it went for 8 yards!!

The disparity in athletes and athletic talent had a lot to do with that as well. Their QB had a pop gun arm and the talent gap between the two teams were night and day. There won't be that talent gap this Saturday against Ole Miss. I expect them to implement a lot of the same principles that MTSU did but with the talent to get the results.

 

[rueben]

Some observations:
1. Yall some chicken lil' mo'fo's
2. BAMA will demolish Ol' Miss
3. This will be a very, very long week.
4.Demolish

 

[Elderfalsedemigod]

Some observations:
1. Yall some chicken lil' mo'fo's
2. BAMA will demolish Ol' Miss
3. This will be a very, very long week.
4.Demolish

Sir Rueben You have my word that after a demolishing I will stand at attention (virtual) in this fine forum and declare myself a weeping vagina. i want nothing more than wholesale destruction of the OM program, freeze's front teeth left lying at midfield and the bodies of sorostitutes left willy nilly across a salt strewn Grove.

 

[rueben]

Sir Rueben You have my word that after a demolishing I will stand at attention (virtual) in this fine forum and declare myself a weeping vagina. i want nothing more than wholesale destruction of the OM program, freeze's front teeth left lying at midfield and the bodies of sorostitutes left willy nilly across a salt strewn Grove.

I wouldn't go nearly that far! :shock:

 

[Elderfalsedemigod]

I wouldn't go nearly that far! :shock:

my love of hyperbole sometimes gets the best of me

 

[planomateo]

I can't take the guy serious after I listen to his music.

 

[Elderfalsedemigod]

@planomateo

You gotta be fucking kidding me. Kid is giving himself a blow job for UT Martin and Fresno??????

 

[psychojoe]

The problem is that there haven't been any changes. That's what I was saying. Weight loss is not a defensive scheme change. There defense is set up exactly the same as the previous 7 years. Three larger guys standard on the DLine with a Jack linebacker filling as an edge rusher. Same corner blitz that comes from the corner guarding the receiver that goes in motion or the receiver in the slot. The occasional middle linebacker blitz up the middle that gets stoned at the line of scrimmage. Now, they might come out against Ole Miss with a different set up. If they do, then I was wrong and they made real changes. Perhaps they didn't want to show Ole Miss anything in the MTSU game. I understand the 3-4 set against Wisconsin. Here's hoping.

The real changes: look at the starters at safety. We are starting guys who were corners when they were recruited and have played corner in the heat of battle. Our safeties in the Saban era have always included at least one guy who looks more like a linebacker than a safety. We definitely have more speed and coverage ability on the back side of our defense than we did a year ago, perhaps at the expense of loss of run stopping ability. And the big grunts shedding a few pounds does make them a little quicker, but perhaps more important they have more endurance for those times when the other teams are really trying to go fast.

I don't think we should change defensive concepts just because of this. We have already played Wisconsin, a smash mouth team. We still have Georgia, LSU, and to an extent Mississippi State and Auburn who like the power running game. I wouldn't want to have a unit of pass rushing specialists on the field against these guys.

Maybe it was another thread, but someone said (and I agree) that we have some defensive packages we have not shown yet.

 

[rueben]

Mother of God, it's not even Tuesday yet! I wanna be criogen...cryogin....I wanna be frozen for the week and then sat out Friday nighy to thaw....