🏈 Lane Kiffin officially the new OC @ Alabama

Respectfully, would anybody from Bama or anywhere for that matter say anything supportive about Lane Kiffin before he got here? I am good with the hire, only because of who hired him. I on the other hand have nothing bad or good to say about Kiffin, my hopes is that he is successful and flourishes at Bama, and we still kick the crud out of UT while he is here. I get what your saying though CtrlAlDel. It is what it is and my support is there for Kiffin but mainly for The Crimson Tide.
 
Kirk Van de Graaff said:
Respectfully, would anybody from Bama or anywhere for that matter say anything supportive about Lane Kiffin before he got here? I am good with the hire, only because of who hired him. I on the other hand have nothing bad or good to say about Kiffin, my hopes is that he is successful and flourishes at Bama, and we still kick the crud out of UT while he is here. I get what your saying though CtrlAlDel. It is what it is and my support is there for Kiffin but mainly for The Crimson Tide.
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Naturally, us being supporters of the Crimson Tide, we are edgy and apprehensive about someone that has been known to bend the rules. All of us know what can happen and what did happen to Bama and it still lingers in our collective memories. Those were horrible times what with the crippling sanctions and revolving door coaching hires.

I understand all of that but, I don't understand the better-than-thou proclamations concerning this guy's very soul. I'm not singling anyone here out, I've seen it on several boards in the last few hours. I mean, he isn't actually a killer or rapist or any other type of danger to society. And no, I have never really liked his attitude.

Frankly, I don't really like Coach Saban's attitude either; he is a smart ass. Kiffin is possibly OCD and definitely arrogant and comes off as kind of smarmy. But, I really enjoy the excellence that is being produced on the gridiron at Alabama.
 
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CtrlAltDel said:
Naturally, us being supporters of the Crimson Tide, we are edgy and apprehensive about someone that has been known to bend the rules. All of us know what can happen and what did happen to Bama and it still lingers in our collective memories. Those were horrible times what with the crippling sanctions and revolving door coaching hires.

I understand all of that but, I don't understand the better-than-thou proclamations concerning this guy's very soul. I'm not singling anyone here out, I've seen it on several boards in the last few hours.
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Agreed man, you make some good, solid, valid points. Soon we will see how this all works and I am pulling for the guy.
 
Nick Saban has won 3 National Championships in 5 years. We pay him $7 million yearly to win games. I honestly believe Nussmeier was silently urged to leave. We had too much offensive talent and too many Number 1 recruiting classes to lose to Auburn and Oklahoma. If Saban wants Kiffin, then so do I. Let's be clear. We as Bama fans want to win. We want championships. If Kiffin can improve our offense, and it needed improving, then all I can say is "Welcome to Tuscaloosa Mr Kiffin". Nick will keep his mouth under control, I am sure.
 
im not trying to stir up anything, but in both of the games we lost we scored around 30 points. certainly, with my penchant for the running game, i'm disappointed in the run blocking from 2013 and the pass happy nature in some of the bigger games has been disappointing at times. But giving up 40+ points TWICE has to be a bigger deal than what we may have not liked about the offense. not to mention, special teams lost the iron bowl so...

IMO the defense is the broken part of the team.

Lane Kiffin will be fine at Bama. The thing i dislike about the hire is how we'll probably have to hear about the Lane Kiffin hire and have pre-game hype videos with all of his previous media blunders and write-ups on his hijinx before and during each game... at least for the first half of the season. Whenever the offense may falter, they'll immediately cut to one of his press conferences from the raiders. :very_drunk:
 
Kirk Van de Graaff said:
Respectfully, would anybody from Bama or anywhere for that matter say anything supportive about Lane Kiffin before he got here? I am good with the hire, only because of who hired him. I on the other hand have nothing bad or good to say about Kiffin, my hopes is that he is successful and flourishes at Bama, and we still kick the crud out of UT while he is here. I get what your saying though CtrlAlDel. It is what it is and my support is there for Kiffin but mainly for The Crimson Tide.
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Supportive? No. Complimentary doesn't fit either. There are some things I have to acknowledge. Going into the 2009 season I thought Jonathan Crompton didn't give TN a hope or a prayer at the QB position—and that was with Crompton playing in his senior season. Do you guys remember conversations about how we'd do facing UT that season? Our evaluations of what Crompton brought to the field?

Here's what I recall. He was a senior who had as many TD's as INT's in his first three years and both numbers were less than 10. He still had a lot of INT's that season under Kiffin but there were twice as many TD's. It seems to me he came pretty close to the 3K yard mark (passing on the season.)

He demonstrated an ability to develop a quarterback.

And what's one thing we need going into the fall of 2014?

The TN offensive improvement? Before Kiffin took over at Tennessee, offense was 116th in total yards and 94th in yards per play. His year, 60th, and 54th. 60th and 54th aren't numbers to brag about by any means. You can't discount the improvement.
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Alabama staff now has 3 coaches (Saban included) who combined for 30 wins as head coaches in 2011. (Saban 12, Kiffin 10, Cristobal 8)</p>&mdash; Cecil Hurt (@CecilHurt) <a href="https://twitter.com/CecilHurt/statuses/421784562008879104">January 10, 2014</a></blockquote>
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psychojoe said:
Great point. If Kiffin does not work out or causes problems he will be gone, just as Major Applewhite was gone after a season
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Applewhite left because he couldn't deal with the control freak that is Nick Saban. If Saban weren't so successful, then you'd have coaches jumping ship left and right. For the record, I would take having a control freak of a head coach if it meant multiple championships. I'm just saying what everyone knows is true. The theme of coaches leaving is that Saban is a control freak and the coaches that work for him have no lives. Applewhite left because Saban was a control freak. I don't think anyone would dispute that.
 
Old Timer from TX said:
Applewhite left because he couldn't deal with the control freak that is Nick Saban. If Saban weren't so successful, then you'd have coaches jumping ship left and right. For the record, I would take having a control freak of a head coach if it meant multiple championships. I'm just saying what everyone knows is true. The theme of coaches leaving is that Saban is a control freak and the coaches that work for him have no lives. Applewhite left because Saban was a control freak. I don't think anyone would dispute that.
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Applewhite didnt have any choice, but to leave. Had he not left he would've had his offensive responsibilities taken away as in let go. He had to leave because Saban knew after one year that his offense sucked and it hasn't been any better at UT. So, to say Applewhite left because Saban is a control freak is off base by a slight bit.

EVERYBODY knows Saban is a control freak and has always been that way, so if Applewhite didn't know that before coming to Bama then he's an idiot which I don't think he's an idiot. He knew how Saban was when he came to Bama, but after one year Saban knew the offense wasnt near good enough to reach the kind of success that Saban wanted.
 
Old Timer from TX said:
Applewhite left because he couldn't deal with the control freak that is Nick Saban. If Saban weren't so successful, then you'd have coaches jumping ship left and right. For the record, I would take having a control freak of a head coach if it meant multiple championships. I'm just saying what everyone knows is true. The theme of coaches leaving is that Saban is a control freak and the coaches that work for him have no lives. Applewhite left because Saban was a control freak. I don't think anyone would dispute that.
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Old timer from TX.

There are times when you say things and I think you actually know what you are talking about, then you make comments like this and you leave me scratching my head. It doesn't take much to understand what happened, surely you can connect the dots here.

Applewhite was done at Alabama in ONE year as an Offensive Coordinator and taken back by Texas as a RB coach...not an OC, but a damn RB coach. He is easily the worst OC Alabama's had since Saban and probably a few years prior to Saban.

Remind me again what kinda numbers Applewhite put up with Top 5 recruiting talent at Texas... under 300 yards against Baylor and Oregon. Not like Case doesn't know the offense, how long has he been around?
 
Old Timer from TX said:
Applewhite left because he couldn't deal with the control freak that is Nick Saban. If Saban weren't so successful, then you'd have coaches jumping ship left and right. For the record, I would take having a control freak of a head coach if it meant multiple championships. I'm just saying what everyone knows is true. The theme of coaches leaving is that Saban is a control freak and the coaches that work for him have no lives. Applewhite left because Saban was a control freak. I don't think anyone would dispute that.
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It's interesting you present a post in another thread as if you have just realized Saban is controlling, and now you use it as an absolute reason for an event that happened six years ago. Applewhite was an inadequate OC at Bama. He couldn't get plays into the game in time to provide time to audible, and his playcalling in general was not the standard for Alabama. When he was elevated to co-OC after three more years at Texas, I still don't believe he was calling the plays, could be wrong, but he didn't call plays until this season after Harsin left to be HC at Arky State.

If he had been a good OC at Bama, he would have been in a position for another OC or HC job. He was indeed forced out at Bama for unsatisfactory performance. I don't have any indication that his departure was related to any inappropriate relationship with co-eds at Alabama like he has admitted while at Texas.

RTR,

Tim
 
Old Timer from TX said:
Applewhite left because he couldn't deal with the control freak that is Nick Saban. If Saban weren't so successful, then you'd have coaches jumping ship left and right. For the record, I would take having a control freak of a head coach if it meant multiple championships. I'm just saying what everyone knows is true. The theme of coaches leaving is that Saban is a control freak and the coaches that work for him have no lives. Applewhite left because Saban was a control freak. I don't think anyone would dispute that.
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OT, once again, you're talking about something where you have no clue what happened.

I chalked up your comments about Saban as fan exuberance all the time feeling empathy for you because you were being misled so badly. With a degree of reservation I accepted your opinions on Suddes as a case where you didn't know him, much less what he brings to a football program. Now, with Applewhite, my suspicion is you're talking about of your ass.

Applewhite didn't leave because Saban was a control freak. Applewhite left because he was being demoted at Bama and he was offered a position at Texas—a step backwards in his coaching career. In reality, it would mean it was his second demotion in his first year in Tuscaloosa if he had ended up staying in on our staff.
 
Back to Kiffin:

It's interesting seeing fan reactions to this hire. Some ask some solid questions. Others? Well, you be the judge...

This one I find ludicrous.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Saban hiring Kiffin feels a lot like Tuberville hiring Tony Franklin, right? New pressure from rival causing a bold OC move. Same result?</p>&mdash; WarBlogle.com (@WarBlogle) <a href="https://twitter.com/WarBlogle/statuses/421820379909206016">January 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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TerryP said:
Back to Kiffin:

It's interesting seeing fan reactions to this hire. Some ask some solid questions. Others? Well, you be the judge...

This one I find ludicrous.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Saban hiring Kiffin feels a lot like Tuberville hiring Tony Franklin, right? New pressure from rival causing a bold OC move. Same result?</p>&mdash; WarBlogle.com (@WarBlogle) <a href="https://twitter.com/WarBlogle/statuses/421820379909206016">January 11, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Ludicrous is not a strong enough word.
 
jdpas29 said:
im not trying to stir up anything, but in both of the games we lost we scored around 30 points. certainly, with my penchant for the running game, i'm disappointed in the run blocking from 2013 and the pass happy nature in some of the bigger games has been disappointing at times. But giving up 40+ points TWICE has to be a bigger deal than what we may have not liked about the offense. not to mention, special teams lost the iron bowl so...

IMO the defense is the broken part of the team.

Lane Kiffin will be fine at Bama. The thing i dislike about the hire is how we'll probably have to hear about the Lane Kiffin hire and have pre-game hype videos with all of his previous media blunders and write-ups on his hijinx before and during each game... at least for the first half of the season. Whenever the offense may falter, they'll immediately cut to one of his press conferences from the raiders. :very_drunk:
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I agree that the defence has problems with HUNH. The other games for the most part our defence did a good job. aTm was the only other school that gave us a fit. That Crazy QB was the reason. I was disappointed that we didn't run the ball more when we would get ahead. Bear Bryant said there is only 3 things that can happen when you throw the ball and 2 of them are bad.
 

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