LBS said:
Here's what continues to puzzle me about Leach at TN.
We all know his personality is, well, quirky.
We also know that at UT you have to be able to recruit across the nation, be one of those "living room" guys.
Despite his offense, I wonder if he has that ability. Personally, I just don't see it as a fit in the recruiting wars of the SEC.
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HIGHTIDES said:
Yeah, but still, Saban is a college guy. His whole career is rooted in college football. Cowher has been in the pros so long and doesn't seem to have any desire whatsoever to coach in college, so that is the major difference between the two.
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uagrad93 said:
Woody Paige on Around the Horn said he guaranteed it would be Gruden. Take that for what it is, but he(Woody) is a Tennessee alum and he said he talked to some of his connections at the University so who knows?
For what it's worth, I don't see Muschamp leaving Texas just yet. I think he was given the fast track to taking over Texas after Mack Brown. Even though Will played at Georgia, I think he will want to separate himself from the conference where he was an assistant for two programs. I think Leach would be a good fit and would take it if offered, but Gruden is the most likely. Either way, I'd give both of our co-defensive coordinators plus four recruits to get Will Muschamp back to LSU.
uagrad93 said:
I heard that one too and the word on that one from Nashville sports radio is that Gruden has perfect coaching conditions in Tampa and ownership has no intention of letting him walk.
There's a big difference between the likes of Gruden, Cowher and Saban. Nothing against Saban -- but Super Bowl Champion Head Coaches do not leave the NFL to coach college football.
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TheChief said:
Didn't he turn down the N.C. State coaching job already? You would think that he would have gone home if he wanted to coach in the college ranks.
TerryP said:
I dont think he has that kinda pull with Monte. Monte was there back when Tony Dungy was coaching. I think Monte is happy there and I think the owners are happy having him there. He is a mastermind when it comes to defense. If he leaves I think it would only be for a HeadCoach job. If that would even pull him out. Hes getting up there in the age and has been living in Florida a long time now. But who knows what money will do for you.
lilstat said:
That's one of the reasons I used the term "rumors" instead of "story" coming out of Clemson.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned in this thread, that probably bears considering, is the Tampa ownership isn't known for easily letting their staff out of their contracts. That would apply to Gruden specifically, and Monte since I brought him in the picture.
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TerryP said:lilstat said:
That's one of the reasons I used the term "rumors" instead of "story" coming out of Clemson.
One thing that hasn't been mentioned in this thread, that probably bears considering, is the Tampa ownership isn't known for easily letting their staff out of their contracts. That would apply to Gruden specifically, and Monte since I brought him in the picture.
The Tampa owners are the the same owners of the Manchester United (soccer) team, thus they know know to take care of their people and have money to play the game. They can not be considered in the same league as some University trying to keep their coach. Further, I don't think they are unhappy with Coach Chucky. As for Monty, the guy looks old enough to make you suspect that he will not be interested in starting all over. Heck his Defense is named for Tampa (Tampa two). Gruden just does not add up to me.
Gruden would not be a good college fit. The reason is because he is not the type to play the father/mentor/shepherd role that a college head coach must be able to do. This is not an easy role in itself (see Fulmer, Shula, every Miami Coach). If the decision makers see it like me, Gruden becomes a concern considering their sustained pattern of trouble.
LBS said:
I didn't know they were involved with Manchester. Interesting considering I assume Manchester has a lot of success as a organization based on how often I hear the name.
Based on my limited knowledge of Gruden, you and I feel the same. He just doesn't seem like a "college fit."
Here's your 6 degrees of separation for the day.
The only reason I knew of Gruden and his college experiences comes from Sherrill coaching at Pitt, Mark Gottfried playing at Bama and then wondering if Mike Gottfried (who also coached at Pitt) were related. When Mike was fired and they hired Hackett I first saw his name...and, a lot of that had to do with our hiring of Stallings and I was wondering how Penn State was doing since they were making a decent run in '91.
Gruden stuck out because he was about my age...
Anyway...not a lot of experience there when it comes to college football and demanding positions.
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My best guess would be that Leach will leave TTU and go to UT. My reasons being:
1- money money money
2- TTU will never be on the level of Texas or aTm. At best they'll be the number 3 program in the state. At UT he'll be at one of the top 5 programs (exposure wise) in the nation.
3- At UT Leach can know he will always have the recruiting budget and tools he needs, top knotch weight room, locker room, dorms etc.
4- Knoxville is 500 times the city Lubbock is. That place is pretty bleak.
5- did I mention money?
1- money money money
2- TTU will never be on the level of Texas or aTm. At best they'll be the number 3 program in the state. At UT he'll be at one of the top 5 programs (exposure wise) in the nation.
3- At UT Leach can know he will always have the recruiting budget and tools he needs, top knotch weight room, locker room, dorms etc.
4- Knoxville is 500 times the city Lubbock is. That place is pretty bleak.
5- did I mention money?
