🏈 jonsol: Powerful & devastating column by Notre Dame grad who won't cheer for Notre Dame. http://t.co

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jonsol: Powerful & devastating column by Notre Dame grad who won't cheer for Notre Dame. http://t.co/9ggsbq6H

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[RollllTide!]

I read the article but am puzzled why she doesn't name the players. This is like Penn State covering it up. If I knew who the players were I would state it as fact and even risking being sued because until someone steps forward to bring things like this into the open it will be covered up the next time. I have grand daughters that have a great life in front of them. If something like that ever happened to them I would be the one in prison because that risk would be worth it to make damn sure that they would never be able to repeat that act. :chat_headscratch:

 

[PhillyGirl]

There was an article in SI a few weeks ago detailing this story, as well as the story of the student (not a player, he worked on the field crew or something) who died on the field, and compared/contrasted news coverage.

Can't find it online but I will try to locate it.

 

[Irish#1]

Because of privavcy laws and Title IX, I don't think we'll ever know what happened. The timing of this article always makes me wonder. First, why wait until now to write it if she felt that strong? Title IX and privacy laws don't prevent her from naming names and dates, yet she doesn't. I had also read the same thing that the girl was the agressor at the party. Was she mad because he didn't call her back? I know ND feels strongly about these type of things and won't just sweep them under the rug.

As far as the student manager, his name is Declan Sullivan. He was filming practice from atop a lift on a windy day when a gust of about 30-35mph blew over the lift and killed him. Very sad story, but ND did not go into hiding. They fully cooperated with the authorities including the state police and attorney general and had several face to face meetings with the family. The school also did away with lifts and installed a video system worth about $100,000where the cameras on the practice field can be controlled remotley. To honor him, the team wore DS decals the rest of the season. The univerisity reached out to the family and created an endowed scholarship in his name. His family is deeply involved with the school and helps administer the scholarship program. Declan will remain a part of Notre Dame forever.

 

[0LDSCH00L]

Why I won’t be cheering for old Notre Dame (Washington Post)

Well, since you asked — and many of my friends have, some more than once — no, I will not be cheering for my alma mater, the University of Notre Dame, to win big-time college football’s championship on Jan. 7.

What’s really surprising me are those who believe as I do that two players on the team have committed serious criminal acts – sexual assault in one case, and rape in another — but assumed that I’d support the team anyway, just as they are.

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[PhillyGirl]

Because of privavcy laws and Title IX, I don't think we'll ever know what happened. The timing of this article always makes me wonder. First, why wait until now to write it if she felt that strong? Title IX and privacy laws don't prevent her from naming names and dates, yet she doesn't. I had also read the same thing that the girl was the agressor at the party. Was she mad because he didn't call her back? I know ND feels strongly about these type of things and won't just sweep them under the rug.

As far as the student manager, his name is Declan Sullivan. He was filming practice from atop a lift on a windy day when a gust of about 30-35mph blew over the lift and killed him. Very sad story, but ND did not go into hiding. They fully cooperated with the authorities including the state police and attorney general and had several face to face meetings with the family. The school also did away with lifts and installed a video system worth about $100,000where the cameras on the practice field can be controlled remotley. To honor him, the team wore DS decals the rest of the season. The univerisity reached out to the family and created an endowed scholarship in his name. His family is deeply involved with the school and helps administer the scholarship program. Declan will remain a part of Notre Dame forever.

Yep, that's him. The article does not say ND covered that story up, but rather (as I said) compares and contrasts the differences in the way the two cases were handled.

 

[Dearg Doom]

The Lizzie Seeberg case is tragic. It's tough enough to lose ones child, but to lose them to suicide creates a wound that never quite heals. I have no first hand info on this case, and all I can offer the people who loved her are my condolences.

My honest questions for the board are as follows: After reading that article, what would you have done differently as a University, or as a prosecutor? And also, Do you think the Duke Lacrosse case was handled properly?

 

[PhillyGirl]

The Lizzie Seeburg case is tragic. It's tough enough to lose ones child, but to lose them to suicide creates a wound that never quite heals. I have no first hand info on this case, and all I can offer the people who loved her are my condolences.

My honest questions for the board are as follows: After reading that article, what would you have done differently as a University, or as a prosecutor? And also, Do you think the Duke Lacrosse case was handled properly?

I feel like the worst part of it all (besides losing your daughter) is that the school didn't do much. From what I read in SI, a ton of the girls' family had attended ND as well, and they are all so disillusioned with it now.

 

[BAMA JAMMA]

Never heard of this dirt in ND but wow

SIAP

Geez I wouldn't pull for them either if I attended ND. http://m.washingtonpost.com/blogs/s...04/why-i-wont-be-cheering-for-old-notre-dame/