📡 Greg Byrne's Tweet about student without masks

[TerryP]

Walt Maddox issues the mask mandate.

HIs daughter from Bidday:

 

[TerryP]

I'm tired of everyone parsing everything someone says or writes. Undertones, overtones, lilt, bounce, coy, playful, hateful, cogent, uninformed, tone deaf, tone woke, Tone Loc...

We really need some football.

He just lost a lot of support.

Not because of what he said.

It pisses me off he chose to use the University and its students as chum...on an optic driven medium, in an optic driven society, where the media focuses the optics.

 

[BamaFan334]

I hope all the morons on here angry at Byrne don't blame anyone but themselves when football is canceled so they could keep their "personal freedoms".

This is a very vague statement. Because clearly, not everyone is wearing a mask.



Personally I don't think folks are being conditioned to think that ONLY people not wearing masks are getting and spreading it. I think the influence is happening in regards to the only 2 things we all can actually control in this situation... That wearing a mask and keeping distance can help limit/mitigate the spread. To what degree can be disputed, but I don't think I'm taking a political stance by saying those 2 things are fairly universally agreed upon in regards to ways to limit the spread.



Do you believe in washing your hands in said bathroom? If so, why? Personally I don't expect you to believe that those people wearing masks stops the spread and we have football... I've said all along I don't believe that Fall football is likely anyway. But I do believe that the more folks that wear masks and keep distance, the less of a spread we'd see.

Ultimately IMO, you think Byrne is making a political statement here. I don't see that.

The comment about the vague statement is in regards to places like New York that had high alert quarantine, yet we still see the virus spreading in cities like that. We have done everything we have been told to do in the form of quarantine, distancing, and being clean, and they said it would have been knocked out. Well, it wasn't, so why am I supposed to believe wearing a mask is the answer?

The two things we can control in the situation aren't even technically controlled. Masks? How many masks aren't even considered to be effective? Now we're seeing reports where neck gaiters are actually spreading the virus more. So how can even being controlled and wearing a mask actually serve everyone else well if the mask you're wearing isn't effective?

You have been on the train of no football, and are maintaining that. I don't like the stance because in my heart I would like football and in my head I still see absolute zero reason why football shouldn't be played, but I admire your willingness to stand on your opinion and not move at the slightest notion. As far as washing my hands in said bathroom, I will only do it if I do not have to touch a knob or push a button, because that effectively does away with washing in a nasty place like a sporting event bathroom or even a mass office bathroom where guys piss all over the place. I also know people aren't sitting there for the recommended 20-30 seconds to effectively kill germs anyways, so it's all just show to me, just like masks. My family is a very clean family. We teach our kids about hygiene and sanitizing for germs so we can stay healthy. We also understand building our bodies up for immunity when sick seasons come around and all of that. We're not perfect, but I know we practice cleanliness more than most. So if that doesn't say something, and then me not wearing a mask, I don't know what else to say.

As far as Byrne and his statement, I don't find it political, I just think it's poor leadership to tweet a picture of people and then trying to blame them for not having football. It's something I expect from the Big 10 or Pac-12 at this point. The SEC, Big 12, and ACC are fighting the notion of safety issues and that they have the best protocols in effect so we can have a season, yet he wants to tweet about random strangers lined up to get into a bar? If you're that worried, call the fucking season and let that be it. I find it a better use of time to let those people live their lives the way they want, rather than cow tip to an AD just to play a few games and sell our soul to please him because he's seeing a potential financial angle. The players want to play regardless. The virus isn't affecting that age group very much at all. if we in fact do want to go off statistics, then we can have a football season knowing the athletes would be fine. Let's look at Oklahoma a quick second. They had nine positive tests after Coach let them go on a break. Those nine players came back to campus clearly not knowing they had the virus. if they had the virus and knew it, they wouldn't have came back to campus and would have let the staff know. Atleast I think they would have. My point is that a positive test isn't a death sentence, nor does it even mean you get sick. It's airborne, we're all spreading it one way or another.

 

[UAgrad93]

 

[BamaFan334]

I hope all the morons on here angry at Byrne don't blame anyone but themselves when football is canceled so they could keep their "personal freedoms".

I wear one when in common areas at work, because I am forced to in efforts of keeping my job, but I do not otherwise. You calling me a moron just shows how big of one you are because you're willing to allow someone else to tell you how to live your life without doing your own research. If I was around @UAgrad93 and his wife, now knowing her condition, I would either stay away or throw a mask on for her sake. But if I am running to the grocery store, I won't have one on. I highly doubt UAGrad's wife is just running up to folks without a mask either. So awareness can be key.

 

[TerryP]

If I was around @UAgrad93 and his wife, now knowing her condition, I would either stay away or throw a mask on for her sake.

It's Kevin. Stay away.

 

[Tidestalker]

You have been on the train of no football, and are maintaining that. I don't like the stance because in my heart I would like football and in my head I still see absolute zero reason why football shouldn't be played, but I admire your willingness to stand on your opinion and not move at the slightest notion.

I don't like the stance either... I hate it, actually. But to me that's just the direction we've been going as a society. It's instances like this that make me more confident in that opinion. Because if there's anything both @TerryP and I agree on - It's the important of optics. And from my perspective, the ability of a school administration to limit liability and bad optics.

As far as washing my hands in said bathroom, I will only do it if I do not have to touch a knob or push a button, because that effectively does away with washing in a nasty place like a sporting event bathroom or even a mass office bathroom where guys piss all over the place. I also know people aren't sitting there for the recommended 20-30 seconds to effectively kill germs anyways, so it's all just show to me, just like masks.

The point I'm making is that washing your hands is for personal health, safety, and cleanliness. I don't see much of a difference in the mask scenario.

If you're that worried, call the fucking season and let that be it.

And to me, the people who call the shots are that worried. Not about player safety, but liability and "optics". Which has me surprised they haven't called the season yet and believe it's plausible to make it through an entire schedule despite the sensitivity towards these optics.

 

[BamaFan334]

I don't like the stance either... I hate it, actually. But to me that's just the direction we've been going as a society. It's instances like this that make me more confident in that opinion. Because if there's anything both @TerryP and I agree on - It's the important of optics. And from my perspective, the ability of a school administration to limit liability and bad optics.



The point I'm making is that washing your hands is for personal health, safety, and cleanliness. I don't see much of a difference in the mask scenario.



And to me, the people who call the shots are that worried. Not about player safety, but liability and "optics". Which has me surprised they haven't called the season yet and believe it's plausible to make it through an entire schedule despite the sensitivity towards these optics.

I happen to agree with most of this actually. I agree with the optics remarks. I meant to respond to your response to my liability question, because you have parents, players, and fans willing to sign off on liability for a season. With testing protocols, athletes saying how well the school is taking care of them, the liability can be absolutely minimized. There is no 100% fact in science as we all know, so there is nothing absolute, but they can be smart and minimize it all.

To go a little deeper on washing your hands in that bathroom, very solid point. But I don't wash my hands for the comfort of the guy peeing beside me, I wash them for my comfort. I would apply that same logic for a mask. I don't see the threat to myself. I went to the casino this past weekend, and wearing a mask sucked ass. I only did it so I could get my 85 year old grandmomma out of the house as she loves to gamble and simply does nothing else on the day to day. They are running their business at smaller capacity, cleaning like no ones business, and seem to have it figured out. I just can't understand why an outdoor event can't seem to put it together like this? If they force you to wear masks, atleast we have a season, and then I can make the decision to sell my tickets or suck it up and put my pride aside to wear a mask. It's a choice, one you're giving me, not threatening me with. "Wear a mask or there will be no football" is a lot different than "we are having a season, but you must wear a mask".

 

[OldPlayer]

Or how about you just stay at home if you're that worried? It's easy to push on others to do something to not hinder your desires, but how does it feel for someone to push back on yours?

Everyone's life has changed due to COVID. You don't have to wear a mask, but you also don't have to go somewhere where masks are required or where wearing a mask is simply a good idea. COVID-19 is very contagious and we all need to take precautions. If I have COVID, and don't wear a mask, and expose you, when you're not wearing a mask, and you catch it, who will you blame?

This pandemic has gone on for five months. Everyone wants to blame somebody else. I'm sure we all thought that since it was "just like the flu" it would go away once flu season was over. Now it's impacting Fall sports. Maybe if we all take steps to reduce potential exposure, it will start to go away.

 

[RTB X Bot]

 

[OldPlayer]

Masks? How many masks aren't even considered to be effective? Now we're seeing reports where neck gaiters are actually spreading the virus more. So how can even being controlled and wearing a mask actually serve everyone else well if the mask you're wearing isn't effective?

The mask makers decided they needed a way to make money and began producing and marketing all kinds of face coverings. People were more concerned with appearance than effectiveness. No mask is 100% preventive. But they can reduce the probability of exposure and transmission. I recently listened to a doctor explain how to determine if a mask can or cannot help. If you put the mask on and blow, can you feel the air on the other side? If you can, they won't work. If you can't, or if the airflow is significantly reduced, you have a better chance of protection.

 

[BamaFan334]

Everyone's life has changed due to COVID. You don't have to wear a mask, but you also don't have to go somewhere where masks are required or where wearing a mask is simply a good idea. COVID-19 is very contagious and we all need to take precautions. If I have COVID, and don't wear a mask, and expose you, when you're not wearing a mask, and you catch it, who will you blame?

This pandemic has gone on for five months. Everyone wants to blame somebody else. I'm sure we all thought that since it was "just like the flu" it would go away once flu season was over. Now it's impacting Fall sports. Maybe if we all take steps to reduce potential exposure, it will start to go away.

I would blame myself of course, but I also think you have to be responsible if you know you tested positive to stay away from people for a bit. It's just like AIDS, do you blame a person giving it to others knowing they have it or the person that got it not knowing anything? An 85/15 split, because you shouldn't be using drugs or having unprotected relations, but knowing you have an illness and not telling people yet continuing on like you don't is not being responsible and you can be charge criminally for it.

You make a good point about going to places that require a mask. The grocery store in my town is requiring a mask, so we opted to go a few more miles down the road to do out shopping. They gave us an option and we made our decision.

 

[BamaFan334]

The mask makers decided they needed a way to make money and began producing and marketing all kinds of face coverings. People were more concerned with appearance than effectiveness. No mask is 100% preventive. But they can reduce the probability of exposure and transmission. I recently listened to a doctor explain how to determine if a mask can or cannot help. If you put the mask on and blow, can you feel the air on the other side? If you can, they won't work. If you can't, or if the airflow is significantly reduced, you have a better chance of protection.
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Are there 300M of these good masks? It's impossible is what I'm saying. This thing will continue to spread until there is a vaccine. I stay my ass at home most of the time anyways, not because of the virus, but mainly because it's simply not worth dealing with other people this day in age. I also just bought a boat and have been spending the last two weekends on the water with my kids. I am practicing social distancing fo sho.

 

[OldPlayer]

I would blame myself of course, but I also think you have to be responsible if you know you tested positive to stay away from people for a bit. It's just like AIDS, do you blame a person giving it to others knowing they have it or the person that got it not knowing anything? An 85/15 split, because you shouldn't be using drugs or having unprotected relations, but knowing you have an illness and not telling people yet continuing on like you don't is not being responsible and you can be charge criminally for it.

You make a good point about going to places that require a mask. The grocery store in my town is requiring a mask, so we opted to go a few more miles down the road to do out shopping. They gave us an option and we made our decision.

There are many people who have been exposed and, if tested, would be COVID-positive. But, they are asymptomatic and don't know they are positive. Therefore they may be spreading it and not know it or they just feel like they have a little hangover. I'm sure very few people are intentionally trying to spread the virus.

 

[BamaFan334]

There are many people who have been exposed and, if tested, would be COVID-positive. But, they are asymptomatic and don't know they are positive. Therefore they may be spreading it and not know it or they just feel like they have a little hangover. I'm sure very few people are intentionally trying to spread the virus.

Yes, I agree with you. It's a difficult deal. I just think us normal folks are being played for political gain and very big dollars when talking a vaccination.

 

[OldPlayer]

Are there 300M of these good masks? It's impossible is what I'm saying. This thing will continue to spread until there is a vaccine. I stay my ass at home most of the time anyways, not because of the virus, but mainly because it's simply not worth dealing with other people this day in age. I also just bought a boat and have been spending the last two weekends on the water with my kids. I am practicing social distancing fo sho.

There are masks available, but most of them don't have a logo or cute design.

 

[UAgrad93]

There are masks available, but most of them don't have a logo or cute design.

Or they don't have enough common sense on how to wear them properly!!!

 

[It Takes Eleven]

 

[rick4bama]

Just wear a damn mask. You don't lose any Constitutional rights. No, it doesn't prevent the spread but it will reduce the chances of spread.

That what i say too!

 

['65 Cobra]

I'm going to have to call BS on much of the information regarding masks. Unless you're wearing a highly specialized mask with seals, you are probably doing very little with regards to transmission in both directions. Information to the contrary is largely propaganda. Why? Viruses are infinitesimally small - really, really small. Viruses are orders of magnitude smaller than bacteria (and pollen for that matter) and most require an electron microscope to even view and coronaviruses are among the smallest. We can't actually comprehend such smallness, but here's a video that helps illustrate it.



The cloth masks and even the disposable masks that the vast majority of people wear can't stop a virus. Anybody who works on cars has known about N95 masks for years. These N95 masks that are all the rage now were popularly available in auto parts stores for many, many years and they are designed to block tiny particles from body work (sanding from metal, fiberglass and epoxy) - not viruses. It takes very specialized filtration to block out something as small as the smallest viruses. Nonetheless, our state government decided to require them in public. OK, I have been complying.

But the good news is (and it's rarely mentioned) that according to the WHO (not the band!), asymptomatic people are RARELY infectious. Basically, if you don't have a fever or other symptoms, it is highly unlikely that you are spreading anything. People have unique genetics and, as such, some are more susceptible than others. If you're especially susceptible for whatever reason, then you should probably just stay clear of others. Social distancing is probably the most effective preventative - much more than masks.