🏈 Greg Byrne on the 9 game conference schedule: he's wary of having an OOC game on the road plus five SEC road games.

[1CrimsonTider]

Although much of my Greg Byrne Q-and-A concerned vaccination, he did talk future schedules. No one knows what SEC will do so nothing specific yet but from his tone, he’s wary of a schedule with 5 SEC road games (out of 9) and a P5 non-con road game, total 4 home and 6 road

 

[252BAMA]

Simple. You schedule the road OOC game in the year you have five SEC home games. Pac 12 schools have been doing it for years and years.

The 4-5, 5-4 rotation would be set from the get-go, so all you have to do is check the future OOC schedule and see what works and what doesn't.

If a switch is necessitated, and the other school can't or won't switch, then you drop them and schedule one that can. A. B. C. 1. 2. 3. 2+2=4.

 

[252BAMA]

In a two year period you play 9 home games and 9 on the road. The 5 road game excuse that has been used forever to oppose the 9 game schedule is lame.

 

[TerryP]

Simple. You schedule the road OOC game in the year you have five SEC home games. Pac 12 has been doing it for years and years.

I don't know. It seems to me there are too many moving parts for it to be "simple." There will be home and home series canceled or postponed.

 

[TerryP]

“We’re going to sit down in the coming weeks and look at the landscape. Right now, the SEC invitation is for 2025, and we are planning to play those two games as scheduled, as nonconference games. Beyond that, we will work with the SEC, see what changes are made, if any, and go from there. Hypothetically, nine SEC games and two major nonconference games, that’s a lot. We’ll just look at all the scenarios but for a while, it will be a work in progress.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

I don't know. It seems to me there are too many moving parts for it to be "simple." There will be home and home series canceled or postponed.

We knew they probably would. Some just to keep season ticket sales interest up.
no its simple...follow the money trail
Will lead you to the CF future promise land

 

[TerryP]

no its simple...follow the money trail

Unless it falls together perfectly we'd be looking at the SEC asking the ACC to change their conference schedules. UGA could draw @GT and also fall into the five SEC road games. UofSC with Clemson in the same situation. That a pplies to UK and UofSC.

Now we're also asking for a good OOC team, a home and home series, to go along with that? It's sticky, putting it mildly.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

Unless it falls together perfectly we'd be looking at the SEC asking the ACC to change their conference schedules. UGA could draw @GT and also fall into the five SEC road games. UofSC with Clemson in the same situation. That a pplies to UK and UofSC.

Now we're also asking for a good OOC team, a home and home series, to go along with that? It's sticky, putting it mildly.

I dont see the competition as a problem or even being sticky
Its the money that will
decide the scheduling. Gonna be a tough sell.
expand the conference but not the competition?

 

[alabamajack]

The only issue I see is that there could be a lot of years where a 2 loss SEC team could actually be one of the 4 best teams come playoff time. Hopefully, playoffs will go to 8 or even 16 teams if our conference is gonna be a beast

 

[TerryP]

I dont see the competition as a problem or even being sticky

Look at it this way in a few bullet points...

• UofSC, UGA, and UK will maintain their OOC games. That's a road game.
• Other schools, without traditional rivalries OOC, will schedule games with OOC teams to fullfil that "one per year." Home and home's; road games.
• The SEC will maintain its schedule: eight, nine, or 10 is the question.
• How do they maintain those rivalries listed above and include their own requirements?

Answer: We're looking at asking other conferences to adjust schedules. That ain't happening.

It's sticky. Contracts have to be broken looking at changing any format.

Nine conference games, with OU and TX in the mix, tells me to set aside an OOC team.

Nine gets ride of your Mercer.
Ten gets rid of your upper-tier G5 team.

The SEC isn't playing on a level playing field unless we see everyone adopt this.

 

[BamaFan334]

Look at it this way in a few bullet points...

• UofSC, UGA, and UK will maintain their OOC games. That's a road game.
• Other schools, without traditional rivalries OOC, will schedule games with OOC teams to fullfil that "one per year." Home and home's; road games.
• The SEC will maintain its schedule: eight, nine, or 10 is the question.
• How do they maintain those rivalries listed above and include their own requirements?

Answer: We're looking at asking other conferences to adjust schedules. That ain't happening.

It's sticky. Contracts have to be broken looking at changing any format.

Nine conference games, with OU and TX in the mix, tells me to set aside an OOC team.

Nine gets ride of your Mercer.
Ten gets rid of your upper-tier G5 team.

The SEC isn't playing on a level playing field unless we see everyone adopt this.

Let's be honest, are rivalries really at a point of contention anymore? Power brokers would scrap the shit out of them in two seconds if the money was right. Just like taking a home game away for a neutral site game.

I get gotten onto a lot for being more of a purest around here, so if I can see what motivates everything, you should too. Sankey, Emerett, and all the others only care about money. NIL, about money. Expanded playoff, about money. Neutral site games, about money. Wearing masks at a game last season just to have a season during a pandemic, about cutting losses, IE money.

The ONLY reason we don't go more conference games is because of the Playoff payout. If it was to protect the players, expanded Playoffs wouldn't be on the board. How long did it take Byrne to come up with The Crimson Standard? If he can come up with a three quarter of a billion multi-facility fundraiser, then all of these guys combined can figure the scheduling out. That being said, I'm fine with a 9 game SEC schedule, one OOC Power 5 game, and two FCS games. Adding teams to the conference should mean more conference games so the fans get to experience that, not just the bank accounts of the league and athletic departments.

 

[rocknthefreeworld]

Go to a 10-game conference schedule with 5 home and 5 away and this is fixed. That won't happen until every conference goes to a 10-game conference schedule though. Which is more reason to ditch the NCAA for major football and have 4 conferences of 16 teams feeding the playoffs.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

Look at it this way in a few bullet points...

• UofSC, UGA, and UK will maintain their OOC games. That's a road game.
• Other schools, without traditional rivalries OOC, will schedule games with OOC teams to fullfil that "one per year." Home and home's; road games.
• The SEC will maintain its schedule: eight, nine, or 10 is the question.
• How do they maintain those rivalries listed above and include their own requirements?

Answer: We're looking at asking other conferences to adjust schedules. That ain't happening.

It's sticky. Contracts have to be broken looking at changing any format.

Nine conference games, with OU and TX in the mix, tells me to set aside an OOC team.

Nine gets ride of your Mercer.
Ten gets rid of your upper-tier G5 team.

The SEC isn't playing on a level playing field unless we see everyone adopt this.

Dontknow that we are disagreeing...

Dont know the sec will do what they do....and depending on other conferences doing what they do...but......
Agreeing with @BamaFan334 ....the traditional ooc games mentioned...are no as important to the power brokers as$$$$$$$$$$$....sad but true...
See Texas - AnM....Nebraska-Oklahoma...Pitt-penn state.... follow the money

but again...its a shame if conference expands and schedule doesn’t follow

but 9 conference...1 power conference...2 G5...probably is the future
Alittle better anyway

 

[TerryP]

Let's be honest, are rivalries really at a point of contention anymore? Power brokers would scrap the shit out of them in two seconds if the money was right. Just like taking a home game away for a neutral site game.

Let's see how that flies in a meeting with Florida and Florida State folk or your Clemson's and UofSC's. In most years that's the biggest game of the year for two of those four.

The ONLY reason we don't go more conference games is because of the Playoff payout. If it was to protect the players, expanded Playoffs wouldn't be on the board. How long did it take Byrne to come up with The Crimson Standard? If he can come up with a three quarter of a billion multi-facility fundraiser, then all of these guys combined can figure the scheduling out. That being said, I'm fine with a 9 game SEC schedule, one OOC Power 5 game, and two FCS games. Adding teams to the conference should mean more conference games so the fans get to experience that, not just the bank accounts of the league and athletic departments.

Playoffs aren't related to more conference games right now. That's all about getting to six wins and making a bowl game. (I suspect you won't find many who'd object to a requirement for a team to be above .500 for a bowl game.)

Byrne and The Crimson Standard is a off-shoot of The Crimson Foundation: Mal Moore's initiative. How long did it take for Byrne to come up with that? Things involved with The Crimson Standard were on the "docket" long before his 2018 campaign was announced.

Nine SEC, one P5OOC, and two G5 games and I'm with you as long as every conference in the nation is doing the same and we're still looking at the SEC putting themselves behind the eight ball due to a tougher road to hoe.

 

[BamaFan334]

Let's see how that flies in a meeting with Florida and Florida State folk or your Clemson's and UofSC's. In most years that's the biggest game of the year for two of those four.


Playoffs aren't related to more conference games right now. That's all about getting to six wins and making a bowl game. (I suspect you won't find many who'd object to a requirement for a team to be above .500 for a bowl game.)

Byrne and The Crimson Standard is a off-shoot of The Crimson Foundation: Mal Moore's initiative. How long did it take for Byrne to come up with that? Things involved with The Crimson Standard were on the "docket" long before his 2018 campaign was announced.

Nine SEC, one P5OOC, and two G5 games and I'm with you as long as every conference in the nation is doing the same and we're still looking at the SEC putting themselves behind the eight ball due to a tougher road to hoe.

Hey, I agree on rivalries. I love them. It's what makes college football, college football. More and more I'm seeing the only dislike for the rival being the fans though. These players don't hate one another like they used to because it's not about school pride or the way you were raised anymore. Between recruiting friendships, 7vs7, camps, recruiting kids across the country and all the other hoopla these guys become friends, not advisories. Money is the only thing motivating these guys actually playing anymore. Jay Barker's son may hate Tennessee and Auburn (he isn't playing and old traditions he was raised on are qhere he gets his joy), but Najee Harris didn't give a crap and even admitted he had zero clue about it until he heard from fans. So yes, it means a lot to the fans, but the players couldn't probably care less.

Good point about The Crimson Standard, but it did need to be dusted off and revamped. It was a lot of work from what it was ten years ago I'm sure.

The Pac-12 already plays ten game conference schedules. I also think with the SEC bringing in Texas and Oklahoma it offers us that extra loss that maybe we would not have gotten otherwise. A bulked up SEC will get the benefit of the doubt.

 

[TerryP]

The Pac-12 already plays ten game conference schedules. I also think with the SEC bringing in Texas and Oklahoma it offers us that extra loss that maybe we would not have gotten otherwise. A bulked up SEC will get the benefit of the doubt.

In what's basically a two team conference: USC and Oregon. That's one thing.

Playing a 10 game conference schedule that features the national title contenders the SEC offers year in and year out? At the least the SEC is a four horse conference for 2021; the PAC is looking for a colt.

Hey, I agree on rivalries. I love them. It's what makes college football, college football. More and more I'm seeing the only dislike for the rival being the fans though. These players don't hate one another like they used to because it's not about school pride or the way you were raised anymore. Between recruiting friendships, 7vs7, camps, recruiting kids across the country and all the other hoopla these guys become friends, not advisories. Money is the only thing motivating these guys actually playing anymore. Jay Barker's son may hate Tennessee and Auburn (he isn't playing and old traditions he was raised on are qhere he gets his joy), but Najee Harris didn't give a crap and even admitted he had zero clue about it until he heard from fans. So yes, it means a lot to the fans, but the players couldn't probably care less.

Money is the only thing motivating these guys actually playing anymore

Come on. Hyperbolize much?

While the Alabama vs Auburn game has been one of great value over the decades these players have always known each other. This isn't new. This isn't uncommon.

I have issues with this as well:

More and more I'm seeing the only dislike for the rival being the fans though.

I don't have any issues with most of the LSU fans I've encountered in my life. I do have an issue with Ed Orgeron and my dislike for the team revolves around him. No different than Wade. Sometimes it's a combination; didn't like Richt and haven't cared for a lot of the fans I've met.

 

[252BAMA]

I don't know. It seems to me there are too many moving parts for it to be "simple." There will be home and home series canceled or postponed.

And that is a good thing in this case. The key is scheduling OOC road games in the years you have 5 SEC home games. If it's canceled or postponed, great! Nothing you can do about those regardless of how many conference games you are playing.

 

[1CrimsonTider]

In a two year period you play 9 home games and 9 on the road. The 5 road game excuse that has been used forever to oppose the 9 game schedule is lame.

One flaw in this thinking is putting the athletic departments on a two year cycle. They run year to year: it's hand to mouth with 90%. There is no cash reserve they can fall back upon on that road cycle.

 

[252BAMA]

One flaw in this thinking is putting the athletic departments on a two year cycle. They run year to year: it's hand to mouth with 90%. There is no cash reserve they can fall back upon on that road cycle.

With the money they will be bringing in, if they can't budget a cash reserve they deserve to run a deficit. The TV execs should fix that problem for them. Require them to play 10 conference games. Give me more games for more money.

 

[BamaFan334]

In what's basically a two team conference: USC and Oregon. That's one thing.

Playing a 10 game conference schedule that features the national title contenders the SEC offers year in and year out? At the least the SEC is a four horse conference for 2021; the PAC is looking for a colt.




Come on. Hyperbolize much?

While the Alabama vs Auburn game has been one of great value over the decades these players have always known each other. This isn't new. This isn't uncommon.

I have issues with this as well:



I don't have any issues with most of the LSU fans I've encountered in my life. I do have an issue with Ed Orgeron and my dislike for the team revolves around him. No different than Wade. Sometimes it's a combination; didn't like Richt and haven't cared for a lot of the fans I've met.

Sorry, I meant the fans are where the hate is for a rival. I didn't mean we hate other fans. Like your dislike for Orgeron. I doubt seriously any of our players give a shit about him or what he has done at this point in their lives.

As far as rivalries, you don't have to agree with me, but I'm not wrong. Of course, Alabama-Auburn, Georgia-Georgia tech, Clemson-South Carolina, Florida-Florida State, Ole Miss-Mississippi State, all of those in-state rivalries are due to a lot of the upbringing of these kids by their parents. USC-Notre Dame, Alabama-Tennessee, Georgia-Tennessee, Stanford-USC, Penn State-Ohio State, and others along those lines don't have the hatred in them from the player prospective due to out of region recruiting and friendships built along the way, but most importantly the money. They aren't buying into traditions anymore. It's more about the NFL, not who wins the Iron Bowl, The Game, and others.