🏈 Good old phillip marshall weighs in again on aubrun and BAMA.

[18Champs]

re the Alabama / Auburn rivalry:

Auburn, while sharing the same state with the Saban dynamo, has managed to keep Alabama from turning the rivalry into what it was when Bear Bryant was roaming the sideline in the 1970s. Auburn has beaten Saban three times at Alabama, as has LSU. Ole Miss has done it twice. No other team has done it more than once.

Could this be the season for the Tigers to get No. 4 against Saban? The game is at Jordan-Hare Stadium. It will bear watching.

 

[alagator]

Auburn, while sharing the same state with the Saban dynamo, has managed to keep Alabama from turning the rivalry into what it was when Bear Bryant was roaming the sideline in the 1970s.

8-2 vs Auburn in the '70's. 7-3 over the last 10 years.

But yeah, nothing like the '70's when Coach Bryant was on the sidelines. Nothing like it at all.

 

[TUSKtimes]

8-2 vs Auburn in the '70's. 7-3 over the last 10 years.

But yeah, nothing like the '70's when Coach Bryant was on the sidelines. Nothing like it at all.

That punt Bama punt game was the last ride to glory for the Shug Jordan era. Bama won 9 in a row after that including the Doug Barfield "error" which was good family fun too.

 

[UAgrad93]

Phillip Marshall= proof that what Saban said about the media is true. "Y'all throw shit on the wall and see what sticks!"

 

[BamaFan334]

Glad someone posted a statistic, because I was rrally scratching my head about thr comments in the article. Three out of ten is not really tipping any scales. Some older folks know better than me, do people fear Bear or Saban more? Auburn will get beat by us this year and 8 of 11 will make these comments look even dumber.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

I hear al kind of crap....this is anice pile..
2 absolute miracle wins..even AU fans admit that...
Been absolutely destroyed and shut out 2 times.
Yea...its AUs year....no doubt... Marshall....
Wasnt it his dad that wrote the nasty article that cost Birminham the chance of getting the Patriots?????
That was Benny Marshall...is that his dad?

 

[50+yeartidefan]

Glad someone posted a statistic, because I was rrally scratching my head about thr comments in the article. Three out of ten is not really tipping any scales. Some older folks know better than me, do people fear Bear or Saban more? Auburn will get beat by us this year and 8 of 11 will make these comments look even dumber.

Well..I dont think anybody is really feared....was feared....
Both are/ were the standard,....
Bear was/ is a legend...period...somehow legends just are different....Babe Ruth,Wilt Chamberlain, Arnold Palmer, john wooden..etc....seem to survive time itself...
NS is ina class of his own....is absolutely awesome...
The next 8-10 years will define him...a legend...or a great coach...
no matter where you go.....and you have onyour Bama hat or shirt....people speak of the Bear..
Older fans.....
I went to Hawaii game..Bama vs Hawaii.. and Hawaii fanscame up and asked me about...The Bear!!!! And he had been dead for what..20 years!!!lol

 

[mando]

Phillip Marshal is an idiot.

I do not mean to make this a Bear vs Saban argument because I am just glad they both coach/were coaches at Bama. During the Bear years the barn fans had NO hope of winning anything of significance as long as the Bear walked the sideline. An old guy from my church who played at the barn in the 50's told me this story, the barn fans were feeling down after yet another loss to Bama and his wife told him well he has to die sometime. Their only hope was Bear's death. That was all they had.

Do not get me wrong, I think Saban is a great coach but I do not think the Barn program reached the same low they did when Bear walked the sideline. Now bama going 7-3 and barn going win less in the SEC one year is pretty low but they did win one NC and played for another under Saban's watch. Granted it took a superhuman player to win it.

Saban is close as you will ever get to the Bear. Enjoy it while it lasts. Roll Tide...

 

[alagator]

The next 8-10 years will define him...a legend...or a great coach...

The past ten years have already defined him as both a great coach and a legend.

 

[TerryP]

Well..I dont think anybody is really feared....was feared....

Feared may be the right word, though. Intimidated? That is definitely accurate.

Consider how many times you've heard, or read, accounts for players who faced a Bryant led Tide team where the game was actually won before the kickoff. It was a given with a lot of teams. They see Bama on the schedule, they chalk up a loss.

I'll be pretty hard to convince there aren't LSU fans who fear seeing a Saban led Bama team in the fourth quarter, in a close game, considering the history the last several years.

 

[rammerjammer]

Feared may be the right word, though. Intimidated? That is definitely accurate.

Consider how many times you've heard, or read, accounts for players who faced a Bryant led Tide team where the game was actually won before the kickoff. It was a given with a lot of teams. They see Bama on the schedule, they chalk up a loss.

I'll be pretty hard to convince there aren't LSU fans who fear seeing a Saban led Bama team in the fourth quarter, in a close game, considering the history the last several years.

Kind of like our 5 years under Shula. If a game was close in the 4th quarter or God forbid, going into overtime we knew that we (Bama) were screwed. Nothing like watching the jumbo package four straight times for a net loss of 3 yards. If memory serves me correct we never won an OT game under Shula.

I remember being at the Arky game in 07 and Matt Caddell catching a pass from JPW to win in OT. Saban accomplished in his 5th or 6th game an OT win and put Bama on the wining side of close contests. Change in attitude!!

 

[TerryP]

. If memory serves me correct we never won an OT game under Shula.

1-4 as I recall. I know Bama won against Ole Miss in OT in '06. I remember being on the edge of "Fire Shula" articles that weekend because it marked the second year in a row Bama had beaten Ole Miss in the final play of the game.

As I recall:
The loss to Arkansas in '06 where Tiffin couldn't hit the broad side of a RV if he was standing a foot away.
Arkansas, again, in Shula's first year. Bama had two OT games in '03, both losses (UT.)
The other is LSU in the fluke of the '05 season.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

Feared may be the right word, though. Intimidated? That is definitely accurate.

Consider how many times you've heard, or read, accounts for players who faced a Bryant led Tide team where the game was actually won before the kickoff. It was a given with a lot of teams. They see Bama on the schedule, they chalk up a loss.

I'll be pretty hard to convince there aren't LSU fans who fear seeing a Saban led Bama team in the fourth quarter, in a close game, considering the history the last several years.

Intimidated....can buy that...when you are playing a team...like Bama...that you know...they have superior players at most every position...and your chance of winning..is play hard...and hope for...a miracle..ie..punt bama punt...Cam/johnnyfootball,DW...zAU wins...etc

 

[rammerjammer]

This may sideline this thread, but ties into it as well.

I can't remember which radio program was on yesterday when I was headed in from work, but they were interviewing someone from SDS about all the SEC QB's and who will make the biggest impact, blah, blah, blah. Of course, the conversation got around to Stidham and Auburn and the hype train was well in motion. He said something that really stuck out to me. He was talking about the "air-raid" offensive style of Baylor and how when Stidham stepped in that they didn't miss a beat offensively at Baylor. It wasn't until Stidham got hurt and they had to go to their 3rd string QB that the wheels came off.

He said as long as AU sticks with what Stidham knows, that Auburn should be good offensively, but if they try and turn him into a re-incarnate of Cam/Nick Marshall, that they will have problems with the RPO. That is not what he knows and grew up learning.

I hope they hype AU like crazy, that will all but seal their fate of having a sucky season. My question is, will Gus allow Lindsey the free rein to run the offense the way he (Lindsey) sees fit? I don't see this being the year that they get their crap together and I'm not sure Gus can keep his hand out of the offense to allow this to happen.

 

[UAgrad93]

This may sideline this thread, but ties into it as well.

I can't remember which radio program was on yesterday when I was headed in from work, but they were interviewing someone from SDS about all the SEC QB's and who will make the biggest impact, blah, blah, blah. Of course, the conversation got around to Stidham and Auburn and the hype train was well in motion. He said something that really stuck out to me. He was talking about the "air-raid" offensive style of Baylor and how when Stidham stepped in that they didn't miss a beat offensively at Baylor. It wasn't until Stidham got hurt and they had to go to their 3rd string QB that the wheels came off.

He said as long as AU sticks with what Stidham knows, that Auburn should be good offensively, but if they try and turn him into a re-incarnate of Cam/Nick Marshall, that they will have problems with the RPO. That is not what he knows and grew up learning.

I hope they hype AU like crazy, that will all but seal their fate of having a sucky season. My question is, will Gus allow Lindsey the free rein to run the offense the way he (Lindsey) sees fit? I don't see this being the year that they get their crap together and I'm not sure Gus can keep his hand out of the offense to allow this to happen.

I hear people yapping about how accurate Stidham is and how he tore up the Big 12!! I have to remind them that he was 2-1 as a starter. He threw for 934 yards, 6 TDs and 2 INTs on 51-81 63% versus Kansas State( #121 versus the pass W), Oklahoma (#33 versus the pass L), and Oklahoma State (#95 versus the pass W). In the final 3 games that he didn't play, they lost in 2OT versus TCU, lost to Texas and then beat UNC in the bowl.

I have to be honest and correct me if I'm wrong. Does the hype surrounding Stidham not seem similar to that of one Jeremy Johnson after Johnson started that one game against Arkansas and lit them up for a half?

 

[BamaFan334]

Feared may be the right word, though. Intimidated? That is definitely accurate.

Consider how many times you've heard, or read, accounts for players who faced a Bryant led Tide team where the game was actually won before the kickoff. It was a given with a lot of teams. They see Bama on the schedule, they chalk up a loss.

I'll be pretty hard to convince there aren't LSU fans who fear seeing a Saban led Bama team in the fourth quarter, in a close game, considering the history the last several years.

I spoke with my dad about this yesterday and he had told me folks feared Bryant more. Just the hard nosed way he coached his players and the just the attitude he instilled had teams afraid. He also stated today's game is just a lot different and that teams don't necessarily fear Saban, but they likely understand a butt kicking is coming and just hope it's a day where the stars align and it can be close. My dad is a gung ho Georgia fan, so it was actually quiet nice to hear him speak on these terms instead of his typical homer self trying to talk us down and stuff.

 

[TerryP]

He was talking about the "air-raid" offensive style of Baylor and how when Stidham stepped in that they didn't miss a beat offensively at Baylor. It wasn't until Stidham got hurt and they had to go to their 3rd string QB that the wheels came off.

I hear people yapping about how accurate Stidham is and how he tore up the Big 12!! I have to remind them that he was 2-1 as a starter.

Did the SDS guy mention when the "wheels were on" for the Baylor offense that season they were playing teams that weren't ranked for one. Secondly, only two of those early games were against teams with winning records (8-5 WVU tops the list.) As soon as they hit the meat of their schedule, those "wheels came off."

The A-12 was a joke that season. Stoops tried to label it parity due to OU losing to a 5-7 Texas. Fact is, Clemson exposed OU for what it was that season (as well as the the teams in the Almost 12.)

I have to be honest and correct me if I'm wrong. Does the hype surrounding Stidham not seem similar to that of one Jeremy Johnson after Johnson started that one game against Arkansas and lit them up for a half?

Personally, I remember all the hype about Johnson centering around Gus saying he was a "Heisman candidate" before taking a snap. (I tuned Auburn news out at that very point.) This year I'm hearing "title contender" from Gus. We've heard both and they haven't failed to disappoint the Auburn faithful--and like UGA, they've not lived up to the hype.

 

[TerryP]

Personally, I remember all the hype about Johnson centering around Gus saying he was a "Heisman candidate" before taking a snap. (I tuned Auburn news out at that very point.)

Let me add an addendum.

It was the "we should have hung 60 on them" that led to me tuning the hype out.

 

[18Champs]

This year I'm hearing "title contender" from Gus.

Gus Malzahn believes Auburn can contend for title in 2017

So, before Malzahn stood up on the dais to address the Tampa Auburn Club on Thursday night, he expressed his serious sentiment that Auburn is in position to contend for an SEC championship — not in a few years, but right now.

“I really do, from the standpoint that we’ve got more returning starters than we’ve had in, what, the last 12 years?” Malzahn said. “That’s important and like I said the big thing is I feel like we have quality depth at the quarterback position and that’s been kind of an Achilles heel the last couple of years. I feel good about where this team is at and I’m excited this team has worked extremely hard. They just have that feel like successful teams have and we’ve got good leadership. It’s just a matter of us coaching these guys hard and staying healthy and the key positions and I think we have a chance.”

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“If you look back at last year, first of all, that’s where it starts,” Malzahn said. “We were the No. 2 team in the SEC. We had some key injuries late and we didn’t finish like we wanted. If you fast forward to this spring this year, the fact that we got a lot of starters back on offense and defense, our quarterback depth is in a different spot right now than it was last year, which that’s very important as we all know. Then we’ve got the best kicker in school history in Daniel Carlson. He’s got a chance to be the best in the country and of course he has been — either that, or close to that the last couple of years.”

 

[TerryP]

“We were the No. 2 team in the SEC.

In what?