🏈 ex-Clemson QB Kelly Bryant's transfers to Missouri

[TerryP]

And if the NCAA allowed it in their contracts with coaches that hiring and firing 4 games in came without penalty you'd already see a new coach at FSU and a school without coach due to their next hire.

If the NCAA allowed?

 

[OldPlayer]

Coaches leave all the time, but they don't leave (on their own) in the middle of a season. Players who graduate (a key component of going to college) have the right to leave and go elsewhere for their remaining eligibility. These players are eligible immediately at their new school. When they graduate, they don't leave in the middle of a season. There are a limited number of scholarships for a football team. Those scholarships are distributed based on the team needs and the athletic departments actually send money to the school's registrar to pay for the player's education. When somebody leaves the team in mid-season, that funding for the semester has already been paid and the team can't go find, or fund, another player for the semester.

The issue I have with Bryant, Blake Barnett and others is that they walked away during the season. They didn't go to practice and continue to improve or help the team. They quit and left.

The coaches argument is a bad one.... There isn't a clause in their contract, or the universities end to allow them a FREE re do 33% into the season.

Like I said, if there was, some changes would be happening.

The principle & character aspect of it I fully understand and agree with you on

Can you give a list of coaches that have left a team for another team midway during a season? Pretty much all of them leave at the end of the season.

Spurrier did. We've seen countless others fired during the middle of the season for performance issues. Wasn't Kiffin fired as he got off the plane from USC?

That's fired. I'm talking about leaving a team by choice and joining another team. Coaches don't/can't do that.

 

[BamaFan334]

Coaches leave all the time, but they don't leave (on their own) in the middle of a season. Players who graduate (a key component of going to college) have the right to leave and go elsewhere for their remaining eligibility. These players are eligible immediately at their new school. When they graduate, they don't leave in the middle of a season. There are a limited number of scholarships for a football team. Those scholarships are distributed based on the team needs and the athletic departments actually send money to the school's registrar to pay for the player's education. When somebody leaves the team in mid-season, that funding for the semester has already been paid and the team can't go find, or fund, another player for the semester.

The issue I have with Bryant, Blake Barnett and others is that they walked away during the season. They didn't go to practice and continue to improve or help the team. They quit and left.

The coaches argument is a bad one.... There isn't a clause in their contract, or the universities end to allow them a FREE re do 33% into the season.

Like I said, if there was, some changes would be happening.

The principle & character aspect of it I fully understand and agree with you on

Can you give a list of coaches that have left a team for another team midway during a season? Pretty much all of them leave at the end of the season.

Spurrier did. We've seen countless others fired during the middle of the season for performance issues. Wasn't Kiffin fired as he got off the plane from USC?

That's fired. I'm talking about leaving a team by choice and joining another team. Coaches don't/can't do that.

Being fired was a decision made by the university, so they can technically force a guy to "quit". Is that not a bad decision by the university to leave these scholarship athletes without the guy that recruited them to their school?

 

[OldPlayer]

Coaches leave all the time, but they don't leave (on their own) in the middle of a season. Players who graduate (a key component of going to college) have the right to leave and go elsewhere for their remaining eligibility. These players are eligible immediately at their new school. When they graduate, they don't leave in the middle of a season. There are a limited number of scholarships for a football team. Those scholarships are distributed based on the team needs and the athletic departments actually send money to the school's registrar to pay for the player's education. When somebody leaves the team in mid-season, that funding for the semester has already been paid and the team can't go find, or fund, another player for the semester.

The issue I have with Bryant, Blake Barnett and others is that they walked away during the season. They didn't go to practice and continue to improve or help the team. They quit and left.

The coaches argument is a bad one.... There isn't a clause in their contract, or the universities end to allow them a FREE re do 33% into the season.

Like I said, if there was, some changes would be happening.

The principle & character aspect of it I fully understand and agree with you on

Can you give a list of coaches that have left a team for another team midway during a season? Pretty much all of them leave at the end of the season.

This went over your head.

Coaches, or the universities, are penalized for quitting 4 games in... via their contracts.

Meamwhile the players "contracts" allow them to quit or sit 4 games in and get rewarded with another free year.

That is why comparing the 2 is apples and oranges. And if the NCAA allowed it in their contracts with coaches that hiring and firing 4 games in came without penalty you'd already see a new coach at FSU and a school without coach due to their next hire.

It didn't go over my head. What I'm saying is that coaches don't/can't quit a team/school in September and join a new team in October (BB8 quit in September and joined a JC shortly after). The NCAA doesn't contract with coaches. All restrictions are between the coach and school. Coaches aren't restricted from quitting and joining another team. They can do it if somebody buys out the contract, but nobody has gone there (there would be cries of tampering by the prior school to the new school and no new school would want a new coach, who would bring a new coaching staff or at least expectations of a new staff ASAP).

While the new rule gives players options, I think it was conceived for younger players and not juniors and seniors. I don't know where Bryant can go. He can take a redshirt in 2018, but he only has one year of eligibility left (this is his senior year). If he hasn't graduated, he'll have to sit out a year wherever he goes.

 

[TUSKtimes]

While the new rule gives players options, I think it was conceived for younger players and not juniors and seniors. I don't know where Bryant can go. He can take a redshirt in 2018, but he only has one year of eligibility left (this is his senior year). If he hasn't graduated, he'll have to sit out a year wherever he goes.

He's a graduate transfer and he received his official release from Clemson this week. I'm sure his phone is blowing up as we speak.

 

[94 Grad]

While the new rule gives players options, I think it was conceived for younger players and not juniors and seniors. I don't know where Bryant can go. He can take a redshirt in 2018, but he only has one year of eligibility left (this is his senior year). If he hasn't graduated, he'll have to sit out a year wherever he goes.

He's a graduate transfer and he received his official release from Clemson this week. I'm sure his phone is blowing up as we speak.

I bet old gussy has already called 10 times....

 

[Tidestalker]

Coaches leave all the time, but they don't leave (on their own) in the middle of a season. Players who graduate (a key component of going to college) have the right to leave and go elsewhere for their remaining eligibility. These players are eligible immediately at their new school. When they graduate, they don't leave in the middle of a season. There are a limited number of scholarships for a football team. Those scholarships are distributed based on the team needs and the athletic departments actually send money to the school's registrar to pay for the player's education. When somebody leaves the team in mid-season, that funding for the semester has already been paid and the team can't go find, or fund, another player for the semester.

The issue I have with Bryant, Blake Barnett and others is that they walked away during the season. They didn't go to practice and continue to improve or help the team. They quit and left.

The coaches argument is a bad one.... There isn't a clause in their contract, or the universities end to allow them a FREE re do 33% into the season.

Like I said, if there was, some changes would be happening.

The principle & character aspect of it I fully understand and agree with you on

Can you give a list of coaches that have left a team for another team midway during a season? Pretty much all of them leave at the end of the season.

This went over your head.

Coaches, or the universities, are penalized for quitting 4 games in... via their contracts.

Meamwhile the players "contracts" allow them to quit or sit 4 games in and get rewarded with another free year.

That is why comparing the 2 is apples and oranges. And if the NCAA allowed it in their contracts with coaches that hiring and firing 4 games in came without penalty you'd already see a new coach at FSU and a school without coach due to their next hire.

It didn't go over my head. What I'm saying is that coaches don't/can't quit a team/school in September and join a new team in October (BB8 quit in September and joined a JC shortly after). The NCAA doesn't contract with coaches. All restrictions are between the coach and school. Coaches aren't restricted from quitting and joining another team. They can do it if somebody buys out the contract, but nobody has gone there (there would be cries of tampering by the prior school to the new school and no new school would want a new coach, who would bring a new coaching staff or at least expectations of a new staff ASAP).

While the new rule gives players options, I think it was conceived for younger players and not juniors and seniors. I don't know where Bryant can go. He can take a redshirt in 2018, but he only has one year of eligibility left (this is his senior year). If he hasn't graduated, he'll have to sit out a year wherever he goes.

We are saying the saying the same thing... You can't compare the players situation to the coaches.

And I agree the rule should be for freshman... This has put an entirely different emphasis on depth charts

 

[Tidestalker]

And if the NCAA allowed it in their contracts with coaches that hiring and firing 4 games in came without penalty you'd already see a new coach at FSU and a school without coach due to their next hire.

If the NCAA allowed?

The NCAA allows the players to do so, correct?

If we're comparing players and coaches......

There's a difference. Again, apples and oranges.

 

[RTB X Bot]

 

[planomateo]

Gotta wonder about a few of those ^^

Who has a better record of developing QBs for the NFL?

 

[OldPlayer]

Gotta wonder about a few of those ^^

Who has a better record of developing QBs for the NFL?

None of the above

 

[TUSKtimes]

I suppose the barner QB could go pro this year, but why would he? If I'm Kelly and have already left one place because of competition, it would seem Arkansas and the comfort of being back with his head coach is the place to go.

 

[UAgrad93]

Let's take a close look at those schools!!

North Carolina- Fedora is likely gone! Bryant isn't going there!!!!
Arkansas- Chad Morris in his first year, runs the offense that Bryant is accustomed to. Likely choice!
Auburn- Shitty job of developing ANY QB. Don't see it with their savior, Bo Nix, coming in.
Missouri- Air raid type offense, no QB runs, don't see it.
Miami- Richt has turned Miami into a dumpster fire in less than 3 years!!!

 

[OldPlayer]

I suppose the barner QB could go pro this year, but why would he? If I'm Kelly and have already left one place because of competition, it would seem Arkansas and the comfort of being back with his head coach is the place to go.

Why would he? Because 2019 for Auburn will be a disaster. Get out now while he's reasonably healthy. I don't see him as a #1 pick this year or next, but he does have potential.

 

[TUSKtimes]

Why would he? Because 2019 for Auburn will be a disaster. Get out now while he's reasonably healthy. I don't see him as a #1 pick this year or next, but he does have potential.

It's entirely up to him. But it's hard to see his draft stock anything like it would have been last season.

 

[OldPlayer]

Why would he? Because 2019 for Auburn will be a disaster. Get out now while he's reasonably healthy. I don't see him as a #1 pick this year or next, but he does have potential.

It's entirely up to him. But it's hard to see his draft stock anything like it would have been last season.

Agree 100%. But I don't think his draft stock will increase with another year at Auburn.

 

[Tidestalker]

Part of me hopes he goes to Auburn because it will rustle some feathers... But when it goes bad, then Gus gets fired. On the other hand if he starts the freshman Nix it may buy him some time with a decent showing...

Guessing he goes to Arky. Who knows

 

[Elderfalsedemigod]

My opinion Stidham goes to NFL this year, late second to early third round pick. Not based off performance so much as potential with a decent QB coach

I think Bryant's first look has to be Arkansas. It seems to be the best fit for both parties. Second would be Miami. If he goes to awbarn I will be shocked. I probably should be prepared to be shocked

 

[JoshB]

Guessing it will be Arkansas because of the Morris connection.

 

[94 Grad]

It's entirely up to him. But it's hard to see his draft stock anything like it would have been last season.

Not many good QBs in this years draft... next year I’d expect a lot more “competition”. If he’s smart he goes this year... but I’m not saying he’s smart...