🏈 Don't expect wholesale change to traditional Pro-style offense from Daboll...

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

In fact, Saban himself says Daboll is adapting to the spread look that featured Jalen's strengths last year...

New offensive coordinator Brian Daboll is learning spread offense, Nick Saban says | TideSports.com

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

Change... @planomateo, I muffed that spelling punt...lol

 

[TUSKtimes]

In fact, Saban himself says Daboll is adapting to the spread look that featured Jalen's strengths last year...

New offensive coordinator Brian Daboll is learning spread offense, Nick Saban says | TideSports.com

Thanks for posting the answer to the great off-season riddle, what is Bama going to be on offense. Hot off the press today we get the usual write up about how Saban is going back exclusively to the pro attack.

“He was committed to making this kind of change,” one industry source told us. “It wasn’t going to be a spread guy. It wasn’t going to be a tempo guy. He wanted his stamp, the pro-style stamp, back on this hire. And he was going to the New England/Belichick tree to find him.”

Saban's motivation behind Daboll hire

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

In fact, @TUSKstuff , I think Daboll will expand the spread-look by adding Patriots-esque passing route concepts with slants, quick-outs, and shallow crosses that will build confidence and rhythm for Jalen.

In that epic Superbowl 2nd half comeback, I think Brady may have been under center a total of 5 times, and that was on short yardage situations.

You take that version of spread offense and couple it with RPO and read-option running, and holy crap.

Our offense will become even better.

I'm not at all implying that we'll become more pass-happy or that Jalen could hold Brady's jock strap. But the Patriots route tree will be beneficial for him maintaining confidence and rhythm, leading to consistency. I'm expecting much more bunch and twin stack formations to disguise route looks also.

 

[OldPlayer]

During Alabama's Pro Day today, CNS was interviewed and said they probably went to much to the spread and needed to get back to pro style.

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

During Alabama's Pro Day today, CNS was interviewed and said they probably went to much to the spread and needed to get back to pro style.

Interviewed by whom? Because it sounds like Aaron Suttles' direct quote and the guy's interpretation you're referring to are two totally different things.

I think I'll trust Suttles, who's been a beat writer here for over a decade.

At any rate, even if we do lean more to power run pro-style going forward with Daboll than we did the last 3 years with Kiffin, it's not going to be a "wholesale change" that I referenced in my title.

And I think Saban's direct quote of Daboll "learning our spread" confirms that.

 

[OldPlayer]

Interviewed by whom? Because it sounds like Aaron Suttles' direct quote and the guy's interpretation you're referring to are two totally different things.

I think I'll trust Suttles, who's been a beat writer here for over a decade.

At any rate, even if we do lean more to power run pro-style going forward with Daboll than we did the last 3 years with Kiffin, it's not going to be a "wholesale change" that I referenced in my title.

And I think Saban's direct quote of Daboll "learning our spread" confirms that.

Interviewed by Greg McElroy. He asked the priorities for Spring practice with the presence of Daboll. Here's Nick's comments with the press after the pro day.

 

[kbama15]

I think the Offense should be better. O line play with Key probably will take a step forward. Get the Run game back to close to where it was, and to what we're used to. Got Tons of Talent at WR! should be a fun season!! RTR!!!

 

[Tidestalker]

Makes sense! Even more so now that we have a backup with the same skill set. Although the other Freshman may be more ready... Regardless, nice to have 2 dual threats.

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

Interviewed by Greg McElroy. He asked the priorities for Spring practice with the presence of Daboll. Here's Nick's comments with the press after the pro day.

That video is a direct representation of the article I posted where Saban talks about Daboll "learning some of the spread stuff we had success with here".

Again, no WHOLESALE change to a run-heavy pro-style attack. We'll go back to it some, but you know the old saying "dance with the one that brung ya"? Yeah, well we're not going to throw out aspects of our offense that allowed Jalen to be the Offensive Player of the Year and Offensive Freshman of the year.

Again, not a wholesale change to pro-style.

 

[bradenob]

In fact, @TUSKstuff , I think Daboll will expand the spread-look by adding Patriots-esque passing route concepts with slants, quick-outs, and shallow crosses that will build confidence and rhythm for Jalen.

In that epic Superbowl 2nd half comeback, I think Brady may have been under center a total of 5 times, and that was on short yardage situations.

You take that version of spread offense and couple it with RPO and read-option running, and holy crap.

Our offense will become even better.

I'm not at all implying that we'll become more pass-happy or that Jalen could hold Brady's jock strap. But the Patriots route tree will be beneficial for him maintaining confidence and rhythm, leading to consistency. I'm expecting much more bunch and twin stack formations to disguise route looks also.

I think the idea will be that, with such a tree, if we do pass on first down, it will usually be a slant for 6 yards, not a 40 yard post. There have been articles posted about how easy the Patriots passing tree is for the players and QB, so getting a rhythm, and avoiding confusion (and negative plays like scrambles that end up going to the safety valve thrown behind the line for a 6 yard loss) will be a definite plus. The disguise, and the short pass, kill many NFL teams facing the Patriots. Not saying college guys can duplicate it, but imitation of the system will work well with our personnel. Many, myself included, have been hoping that Jalen will take that next step and throw the ball downfield further, and more accurately. Brady hardly had to do that all year and was still super successful. That takes the pressure off the line, and the QB. Second and 4 situations, with our line and running game, will be the death of many a defense that faces us this fall. And when they come up to take the out away from Ridly, then fly Calvin fly, and let Jalen hit him deep.

 

[OldPlayer]

That video is a direct representation of the article I posted where Saban talks about Daboll "learning some of the spread stuff we had success with here".

Again, no WHOLESALE change to a run-heavy pro-style attack. We'll go back to it some, but you know the old saying "dance with the one that brung ya"? Yeah, well we're not going to throw out aspects of our offense that allowed Jalen to be the Offensive Player of the Year and Offensive Freshman of the year.

Again, not a wholesale change to pro-style.

I agree. Daboll isn't bringing in a "new" offense. In the interview with McElroy, Saban said that Alabama may have skewed too much in 2016. The best approach in 2017 will be to focus on the personnel they have and not try to create something new and different.

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

I think the idea will be that, with such a tree, if we do pass on first down, it will usually be a slant for 6 yards, not a 40 yard post. There have been articles posted about how easy the Patriots passing tree is for the players and QB, so getting a rhythm, and avoiding confusion (and negative plays like scrambles that end up going to the safety valve thrown behind the line for a 6 yard loss) will be a definite plus. The disguise, and the short pass, kill many NFL teams facing the Patriots. Not saying college guys can duplicate it, but imitation of the system will work well with our personnel. Many, myself included, have been hoping that Jalen will take that next step and throw the ball downfield further, and more accurately. Brady hardly had to do that all year and was still super successful. That takes the pressure off the line, and the QB. Second and 4 situations, with our line and running game, will be the death of many a defense that faces us this fall. And when they come up to take the out away from Ridly, then fly Calvin fly, and let Jalen hit him deep.

Sluggo routes (slant and go) and out and up routes once the DBs start pressing to take away the slants, etc.

 

[TerryP]

That video is a direct representation of the article I posted where Saban talks about Daboll "learning some of the spread stuff we had success with here".

Again, no WHOLESALE change to a run-heavy pro-style attack. We'll go back to it some, but you know the old saying "dance with the one that brung ya"? Yeah, well we're not going to throw out aspects of our offense that allowed Jalen to be the Offensive Player of the Year and Offensive Freshman of the year.

Again, not a wholesale change to pro-style.

The team has never gotten away from their pro-style sets. Weaving the RPO into that offense was a case of Saban and Kiffin "thinking outside of the box."

The changes we won't see with the QB are those situations where he's a threat to run when the play breaks down. The changes we hope to see is the QB remaining in the pocket longer while progressing through his reads. (If you recall, that was one of the biggest concerns coming out of spring camp in '16.)

I do see quite a few people thinking "spread concepts" and "RPO" are somehow the same thing. This team was running spread concepts before Kiffin was hired: 11, 12, and sometimes 13 personnel packages.

The change we are going to see is more of a physical, conservative approach on offense. To that there is no doubt.

 

[TerryP]

I think the Offense should be better.

I'll certainly go with "the offense has the potential to be special." This team has a lot of young talent at every position. In fact, it may be more potential talent in Tuscaloosa than I can recall.

In a lot of ways it's a lot like the reps we were taking about during the season and how Jalen would benefit from them. I believe this offense has a chance to become a very good group this fall. Development.

 

[TUSKtimes]

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I do see quite a few people thinking "spread concepts" and "RPO" are somehow the same thing.

Frankly, I'll never be able to see another bubble screen or jet sweep without thinking of Kiffin.

 

[Sgt. Lincoln Osiris]

Frankly, I'll never be able to see another bubble screen or jet sweep without thinking of Kiffin.

Dat tap pass, doe!