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[Crimson&WhiteGecko]

8:05 Mark.....There has been NO game under CKD where 'Bama had less penalties than their opponnent

What more do you need to know about the root problem of this program? CKD better have a serious audit of his program's mental toughness & needs to fire anybody whose impulse is to circle jerk the other.

 

[TerryP]

I read an article recently looking at success versus the number of penalties a team might receive. They found little in regard to causation/correlation. IE: Ohio State and Michigan were both in the top 20 in penalty's the last two seasons. Both UGA and Alabama were in the top third (best was UGA at 39th out of 130+ teams.)

The worst has been the Wolverines: 3rd most penalized their title year.

 

[Crimson&WhiteGecko]

I read an article recently looking at success versus the number of penalties a team might receive. They found little in regard to causation/correlation. IE: Ohio State and Michigan were both in the top 20 in penalty's the last two seasons. Both UGA and Alabama were in the top third (best was UGA at 39th out of 130+ teams.)

The worst has been the Wolverines: 3rd most penalized their title year.

UM gets an assists with their sign stealing program, so that washes out. Believe it or not, UGA peaking at 39th out of 130+ teams is not that bad.

As such, I wonder if that research article did a deep dive as to what kinda penalties that either took points off the board or put points on the board for other teams. I would wager those championship teams didn't have that happen as much. Also, championship teams are going to have 2 team & third team playing time. Those 2nd or lower make goofy plays all the time but they are in clean up duty.

Lastly, theres a difference between intensity penalties Vs complete dumbass penalties. I don't stress over facemask/personal foul penalties by DB's. But false starts, offsides, losing tempers, etc.... that's far different. Championship teams play fast & furious where they are going to get some of those penalties but bonehead personal foul BS or false starts, not so much.

What we are seeing w/ CKD is mental weakness, not mental toughness. And if a team isn't mentally tough there is NO WAY they will all the sudden be physically tough. They will wilt every damn time & start doing stupid shit or getting mad or puffed up & need their safe space stuffed animal.

 

[TerryP]

As such, I wonder if that research article did a deep dive as to what kinda penalties that either took points off the board or put points on the board for other teams.

It did. I'm trying to remember where I read the report...can't pull it off the top yet. They did spend some time separating things like Formby's false start in the first (my example, not theirs.) They weren't excusing those flags, but putting them in context.

 

[UAgrad93]

UM gets an assists with their sign stealing program, so that washes out. Believe it or not, UGA peaking at 39th out of 130+ teams is not that bad.

As such, I wonder if that research article did a deep dive as to what kinda penalties that either took points off the board or put points on the board for other teams. I would wager those championship teams didn't have that happen as much. Also, championship teams are going to have 2 team & third team playing time. Those 2nd or lower make goofy plays all the time but they are in clean up duty.

Lastly, theres a difference between intensity penalties Vs complete dumbass penalties. I don't stress over facemask/personal foul penalties by DB's. But false starts, offsides, losing tempers, etc.... that's far different. Championship teams play fast & furious where they are going to get some of those penalties but bonehead personal foul BS or false starts, not so much.

What we are seeing w/ CKD is mental weakness, not mental toughness. And if a team isn't mentally tough there is NO WAY they will all the sudden be physically tough. They will wilt every damn time & start doing stupid shit or getting mad or puffed up & need their safe space stuffed animal.

Penalties are part of the game and like you said, some you can live with like a PI call that may have cost you 15 but it saved a TD, or a facemask call, or a personal foul on a borderline play and the guy was giving 100% effort. It’s those dumbass, lack of effort, lack of focus penalties that drive you absolutely insane!

 

[mando]

Need to admit you have a problem before you can fixt it. Propping up or excusing away undisciplined actions will not get it resolved. Pay attention to the details is a mindset to preparing the right way in my view.

 

[64Tide]

I read an article recently looking at success versus the number of penalties a team might receive. They found little in regard to causation/correlation. IE: Ohio State and Michigan were both in the top 20 in penalty's the last two seasons. Both UGA and Alabama were in the top third (best was UGA at 39th out of 130+ teams.)

The worst has been the Wolverines: 3rd most penalized their title year.

Sometimes you good enough to overcome penalties, WE are not.