| FTBL Damien Harris Comments on Malachi Moore [Update: Moore issues apology via social media]

Davestwin said:
Players “don’t owe fans anything”? Wow! We definitely don’t ageee on this for sure. Now I get that I’m old but a big part of what’s wrong with sports today is the players don’t respect the role fans have in the game. Namely, without the fans there wouldn’t be any places for players to play at the collegiate level. And there wouldn’t be a professional level at all. In the past there was a symbiotic relationship between players and fans. Without players there’s no need for fans and vice versa. If one doesn’t respect the other then as with all such relationships a break will eventually occur. At present, the TV money allows the imbalance favoring the owners and the players. Though, the kind of money they’re throwing at sports can’t continue to escalate as it has the past 20 years unless America’s population increases more dramatically than it has during those years. And the demographics of the population increases don’t favor the owners and the players either for that matter.

I could go on but I’ll conclude with one other point. The game I’ve loved passionately my entire life doesn’t hold me as it once did. And the money I’ve invested because of my passion won’t continue with my children and grandchildren. That’s one thing ESPN and others in the media may have miscalculated. The millennials do not share the devotion to college football prior generations had with the game. Ask anyone attached with athletic fundraising at the university level if it’s not a big concern? I know from personal experience that it is. If viewership doesn’t increase the TV money will slow and if millennials and generation x’ers aren’t willing to donate the chunks of money their parents and grandparents did where will the ever increasing amounts of money for the players come from in the future? The only other place it can … from the blue collar fans. But if they’re not respected by the players you can bet they won’t spend their hard earned money enriching them.
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I'm not trying to start an argument but from what I just read .. would you say this would come off as entitled fans who think they should get an apology from the players?
 
Justneedme81 said:
I'm not trying to start an argument but from what I just read .. would you say this would come off as entitled fans who think they should get an apology from the players?
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I don't gather from his comments that entitled fans get an apology from players. I read it to reflect than fandom does matter to the program in some capacity & now, with NIL, it matters more. There is going to be a clear connection to players getting paid by what they do (good or ill), now more than ever. And the NIL collectives, in particular Yea Alabama, will definitely be impacted by the players. In short, if teams lose games they have no business loosing AND players are making asses of themselves, you will see the coffers of the NIL dry up. Pretty simple.
 
Any word on Campbell??? Apparently there was a pretty big dust up between him and an o-lineman that carried over into the locker room and back to Tuscaloosa….. finger pointing by several players, Campbell, Devante smith…
I’m getting this 3rd hand so, not sure if it’s all that big or just some minor “team” stuff…
This came from a girl I know, that was at a watch party with a big booster in Vegas over the weekend…..
Also she said that a hand full of players have already informed the coaches they’re looking to transfer after the season. Several linemen O & D.
This has nothing to do with the game it’s just another tidbit she was privy to over the weekend
 
Rsedge72 said:
Any word on Campbell??? Apparently there was a pretty big dust up between him and an o-lineman that carried over into the locker room and back to Tuscaloosa….. finger pointing by several players, Campbell, Devante smith…
I’m getting this 3rd hand so, not sure if it’s all that big or just some minor “team” stuff…
This came from a girl I know, that was at a watch party with a big booster in Vegas over the weekend…..
Also she said that a hand full of players have already informed the coaches they’re looking to transfer after the season. Several linemen O & D.
This has nothing to do with the game it’s just another tidbit she was privy to over the weekend
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Well you can see Oatis is out, but I haven't heard anything about a locker room scuffle either at Vandy or back in Tuscaloosa. I know the players had a discussion and a meeting of sorts after the game, quite a few are pissed and unhappy with people's preparation, play, and other things. That being said, nothing eye popping from observations. I think the Captains and the Coaches will handle things internally and we all just need to relax and sit back a bit.

I honestly am not sure how we've all gone from "We're by far the best team in the nation and most proven team" to Nuclear Meltdown, we all suck, everyone is transferring, DeBoer's lost the locker room/players/coaches. I mean, not blaming you, but too many of the Bama fan base needs to just get the fuck out and never come back.
 
bamafan9201 said:
Well you can see Oatis is out, but I haven't heard anything about a locker room scuffle either at Vandy or back in Tuscaloosa. I know the players had a discussion and a meeting of sorts after the game, quite a few are pissed and unhappy with people's preparation, play, and other things. That being said, nothing eye popping from observations. I think the Captains and the Coaches will handle things internally and we all just need to relax and sit back a bit.

I honestly am not sure how we've all gone from "We're by far the best team in the nation and most proven team" to Nuclear Meltdown, we all suck, everyone is transferring, DeBoer's lost the locker room/players/coaches. I mean, not blaming you, but too many of the Bama fan base needs to just get the fuck out and never come back.
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I was just asking, the transfer stuff is pretty normal I’m sure….
 
bamafan9201 said:
Well you can see Oatis is out, but I haven't heard anything about a locker room scuffle either at Vandy or back in Tuscaloosa. I know the players had a discussion and a meeting of sorts after the game, quite a few are pissed and unhappy with people's preparation, play, and other things. That being said, nothing eye popping from observations. I think the Captains and the Coaches will handle things internally and we all just need to relax and sit back a bit.

I honestly am not sure how we've all gone from "We're by far the best team in the nation and most proven team" to Nuclear Meltdown, we all suck, everyone is transferring, DeBoer's lost the locker room/players/coaches. I mean, not blaming you, but too many of the Bama fan base needs to just get the fuck out and never come back.
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Interesting. I wonder if she was repeating stuff from last year. We had similar situation... Look, It doesnt matter who transfer... we'll bring in someone. We won't forget what they did to us in transfer portal. I expect Bama to go nuclear in December...
 
Justneedme81 said:
Interesting. I wonder if she was repeating stuff from last year. We had similar situation... Look, It doesnt matter who transfer... we'll bring in someone. We won't forget what they did to us in transfer portal. I expect Bama to go nuclear in December...
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Yes I do expect drastic improvement (at least I hope) when late November / December rolls around…

The defense may not be elite this year but I to think they’ll get better. These break downs are bound to happen in a first year situation..
 
I hope all that isn’t true about more transfers. I mean, I’m okay with losing McVay and Bertrand if they want to leave with the OL class we have coming in. But we need every DL we can keep.

But I will say this. I saw something different in Milroe’s demeanor on Sat. Very detached and emotionally stoic when on the sideline. Did anyone else notice it too?
 
musso said:
I hope all that isn’t true about more transfers. I mean, I’m okay with losing McVay and Bertrand if they want to leave with the OL class we have coming in. But we need every DL we can keep.

But I will say this. I saw something different in Milroe’s demeanor on Sat. Very detached and emotionally stoic when on the sideline. Did anyone else notice it too?
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Yeah I think all of them including the coaches read some of the press clippings!!!
 
Brandon Van de Graaff said:
And while the kicking of the ball was bad (and stupid), the refusal to leave the game was more disturbing.
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The difference in a "Good Coach" and a "Players Coach". He doesn't see CKD in the same way he saw CNS. He never would have done that under CNS in my opinion... and that says a lot about where this program is heading if CKD doesn't take a bit firmer control over it. Maybe it's a one off... we'll see.
 
Justneedme81 said:
Why would Moore issue a public apology? The only apology he should issue is to his team and his parent. that's it. I don't give a damn if he does or does not apology to the fans. He don't owe us anything.
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He should apologies to the Vandy player he smashed their head into the ground and the Vandy fans/players for acting like a piss ant child.
 
94 Grad said:
The difference in a "Good Coach" and a "Players Coach". He doesn't see CKD in the same way he saw CNS. He never would have done that under CNS in my opinion... and that says a lot about where this program is heading if CKD doesn't take a bit firmer control over it. Maybe it's a one off... we'll see.
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I tend to agree that he probably wouldn’t have done it under Saban, but it’s also hard to say. Partly because many others did a lot of insubordinate type stuff under Saban as well.
 
Someone commented about the coin toss. Please elaborate about what you saw. I didn’t notice anything so please enlighten those of us that are blind.
 
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