24and7
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They are working their way to a sweet 16.. Then no team will have a bye..
It should’ve only been 8 teams..
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It should’ve only been 8 teams..
bamascw
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Yeah, I feel like we need SMU to win that game and if Miami is sitting behind us at the 12th spot Tuesday night, I think we are in pretty good shape. But who the hell knows what is going on in that room?
bamascw
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I definitely think 12 teams is too many, realistically how many two and three loss teams are gonna make the run and win a national championship in football? It’s totally different in basketball but money money money.
24and7
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I do too, but the butthurt of the “left out teams” will fester into it…Plus a lot of people are complaining about top teams getting a bye week… We will see in the future..
50+yeartidefan
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Yeah. Who knows. But if its money. And viewership. We know a bama-nd would be better than a arizona state-miami game.... this week is interesting for cfp
Justneedme81
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Weird We trust Heather. We need SMU to beat Clemson.Feels like it comes down to where Miami is Tuesday night, but Heather Dinich (for what it is worth) thinks we need Clemson to win the ACC for us to get in and I don’t see that one. I don’t know that they would drop SMU behind us.
BamaFan334
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I personally feel this is actually the best bracket for the Playoffs. i know it's just the rankings at the moment, but feel it is fair. South Carolina should be in over Arizona State, but feel this is pretty solid.
Justneedme81
Member
I get a feeling Ole miss sneaks in over SC. but what do I know
Davestwin
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Bama’s been so inconsistent this season … but if you’re one of the teams already locked into a spot regardless of conference championship game outcomes … who would you rather face Bama or Clemson or SMU? I would bet a lot of money none of the locked in teams want anything to do with the Tide. So you can bet they’re lobbying hard to keep Bama out.
On the poll tomorrow night, keep an eye on what they do with LSU. They are sitting at 8-4 right now. Do they sneak into the Top 25? If so, that's another strong data point, and likely an indication that the committee is setting Bama's resume up to be golden. That would put South Carolina, Mizzou, and LSU all in there, along with Georgia. The ACC is going to push for Miami to get a seat, but there's just not much on their plate that really helps them. However, what they do with Louisville (much like LSU) will matter. At 8-4 and a win at Kentucky, do they sneak them in, instead of LSU? If so, that shows they are trying to do something to boost the resumes of Clemson, SMU, and/or Miami. Clemson lost to UL, but SMU and Miami beat them.
If this boils down to Bama vs. Clemson or SMU for that final spot, and it appears it's headed that way... on the surface (as of today), you have to feel pretty good about Bama getting the nod. The computers value Bama over both, and regardless of what they say publicly, the committee looks at some of that data. On strength of schedule, Bama leaves both of them in their wake. Neither of them currently hold a win over a current ranked team (again, pending what they do with Louisville). Bama has 4. Also, and I say this often, but Bama will have Sankey in their corner, and his presence looms large over than room. There's still a little stuff to shake out, but tomorrow night the picture should become a little more clearer.
If this boils down to Bama vs. Clemson or SMU for that final spot, and it appears it's headed that way... on the surface (as of today), you have to feel pretty good about Bama getting the nod. The computers value Bama over both, and regardless of what they say publicly, the committee looks at some of that data. On strength of schedule, Bama leaves both of them in their wake. Neither of them currently hold a win over a current ranked team (again, pending what they do with Louisville). Bama has 4. Also, and I say this often, but Bama will have Sankey in their corner, and his presence looms large over than room. There's still a little stuff to shake out, but tomorrow night the picture should become a little more clearer.
94 Grad
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I think it has zero to do with Clemson/SMU... The winner of that game will be in, the loser will be out. Unless you're saying USCe will look better than us with a win over ACC champ Clemson... which may be the case.
Our chances rely 1st on where they move Miami to... if they move Miami behind us, chances are we are in. If they keep Miami ahead of us, we would be out PENDING the uGA/UT game. uGA get's taken to the wood shed, and chances are they'd drop behind us and we'd be back in.
Now, the committee could move USCe up ahead of us after beating Clemson, but I don't see that this week (maybe next week if Clemson were to win ACC, but I really don't see this being the case). I don't think Ole Miss would move ahead of us this week as they played MSu a shitty team. If they were going to move Ole Miss ahead of us it would have been after our loss to OU.
So, basically, we need uSCe to stay behind us on Tuesday... and Miami to fall behind us or uGA to get woodshedded in the SECC game.
To be honest, I don't see Miami dropping behind us even though they did in the AP/Coaches. UT may just put a whipping on uGA... but who knows what uGA team will show up. They have been good in the big games, and bad in the "easy" games. I have a feeling they will be focused on UT and don't project them to lose big. My final thought is that UA sit's as the 1st team out come next week, but we can only hope not!
Justneedme81
Member
This kinda doesn't make sense.
South Carolina: They will not put them ahead of Alabama. That does not make sense from data point at any point. Last week SC was #15, Alabama was #13 Alabama beat SC. So, I expect Alabama to be between #10 and #12 tomorrow.
South Carolina is not going to climb 4 spots to be ahead of Alabama. That's not making sense.
The conference game matters. Let's look at the schedule:
Iowa State v.s. Arizona State. No chance for them to get in top 12.
Georgia v.s. Texas. This is the game to watch. Right now if Georgia loses to Texas, It hurts us a little since we beat Georgia. there's a chance they could miss playoff if they lose... you just never know with committee. So we need Georgia to beat Texas, just to help our resume.
Penn State v.s. Oregon- This game won't really matter, as both will make Playoff. But if Penn State lose, how fall do they drop? We've seen team drop 4-6 spots. So doesn't matter, but it does change the ranking somewhat.
SMU v.s. Clemson game: We want SMU to beat Clemson. It put them out and make it easier for Alabama. We want to be on the safe side, instead of playing the dice if Clemson wins...
TerryP
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A little context from my point of view.
Until the re-assigned her to cover the committee, her beat was covering the ACC. If you have watched/read her over this latest span you'll see, clearly, there's still a "ACC swing" in her writing.
I consider the things she's written UNTIL it gets to the ACC. At that point, the script flips, "Verify, then trust."
bamascw
Member
I had completely forgotten about her covering the ACC, I just don’t see how Clemson locking up a spot with three losses helps us whatsoever, but if we are not ahead of Miami in the pole Tuesday night, it’s all moot
TerryP
Staff
"You can walk into any sports bar in America and find someone more qualified than Heather Dinich." Reading that was one of life's all time, "oh shit" moments.
bamascw
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Nothing_But_A_Winner00
Member
SMU -300, don't like that
Justneedme81
Member
Well consider this:
- Yards: SMU is ranked 21st in the NCAA College Football FBS with 5,302 yards
- Passing yards per game: SMU is ranked 37th overall with 269.9 passing yards per game
- Rushing yards per game: SMU is ranked 48th overall with 177.9 rushing yards per game
- Sacks: SMU is tied for 10th overall with 37.0 sacks
- Third down percentage: SMU is ranked 19th overall with a third down percentage of 46.1
- Points per game: SMU is ranked 5th with 39.2 points per game
- Passing yards per game: 275.1, ranking 26th nationally
- Rushing yards per game: 190.6, ranking 54th nationally
- Total yards per game: 465.7, ranking 12th nationally
- Third down percentage: 45.6, ranking 21st nationally
- Sacks: 31.0, ranking T-31st nationally
- Turnover plus/minus: T-5th nationally
Nothing_But_A_Winner00
Member
That means they are a lock, regardless of the championship. If they lose they are win with Clemson and we are out.
94 Grad
Member
my thoughts too.
winner gets a autobid.
UGA losing should put them behind us, but you just never know how the committee sees it. I would plan on both teams making it regardless of outcome...
Agreed both teams in.
Don't agree here...
SMU if they lose will drop behind us and Clemson takes the Auto Bid regardless of ranking.
SMU if they win takes autobid and Clemson drops lower.
I don't see any route for both SMU and Clemson to get in the play off... to me it's winner takes in, loser out.
The easiest route for us is Miami moving behind us in the upcoming rankings. If that doesn't happen, then the only route I see is uga getting beat significantly and them moving behind us...
