🌎 Charlie Kirk shot during speech in Utah...

[TerryP]

Again, politically I 1200% disagreed with him and he would’ve disagreed with me

I believe this to be hyperbole as well.

He's been adamant about reducing things like the number of abortions we see yearly. Are you suggesting you disagree there? He's taken stances against some of the idiotic crime laws we've seen passed. He doesn't believe in the revolving doors we're seeing in the judicial systems. Are you disagreeing here? He believed people should get jobs and promotions based on merit; not because of the color of their skin or their ethnicity. Are you disagreeing here? The man believed in a core, nuclear family. Disagreement here? He's a "stand your ground in your house" fella. Disagreement? He strove to discuss ideas on campuses with students. Disagreement with legitimate political discourse?

You disagree with how some want things accomplished. You don't disagree with the end goal. It's something we all have in common.

It’s really not difficult to use critical thinking in knowing I was obviously meaning politically,

It didn't take critical thinking. I know you don't disagree with everything he stood for when we've talked about things where you agree. The fact is there isn't anyone who may vote differently than I where I disagree on everything they believe. Suggesting such isn't based in reality. Saying such is making a political statement.

I'd be interested in running through the amendments to the Constitution and seeing what you and Kirk disagreed upon. 1A? 2A? I know damn well it isn't 3A. Fourth? Fifth?

Should I continue?

 

[TerryP]

Pure stupidity.

 

[24and7]

Pure stupidity.

Right there in front of everyone to see...People just don't want too..

 

[ElephantStomp]

I believe this to be hyperbole as well.

He's been adamant about reducing things like the number of abortions we see yearly. Are you suggesting you disagree there? He's taken stances against some of the idiotic crime laws we've seen passed. He doesn't believe in the revolving doors we're seeing in the judicial systems. Are you disagreeing here? He believed people should get jobs and promotions based on merit; not because of the color of their skin or their ethnicity. Are you disagreeing here? The man believed in a core, nuclear family. Disagreement here? He's a "stand your ground in your house" fella. Disagreement? He strove to discuss ideas on campuses with students. Disagreement with legitimate political discourse?

You disagree with how some want things accomplished. You don't disagree with the end goal. It's something we all have in common.



It didn't take critical thinking. I know you don't disagree with everything he stood for when we've talked about things where you agree. The fact is there isn't anyone who may vote differently than I where I disagree on everything they believe. Suggesting such isn't based in reality. Saying such is making a political statement.

I'd be interested in running through the amendments to the Constitution and seeing what you and Kirk disagreed upon. 1A? 2A? I know damn well it isn't 3A. Fourth? Fifth?

Should I continue?

Abortions- he was adamantly against abortion for any reason, I do not agree with this take. Revolving doors of the judicial systems- him and I disagreed on this, it’s a revolving door because criminals do criminal shit. He believed in the nuclear family, I believe in family in any shape or form not just his Christian version, big difference. I do disagree with his “stand your ground” idea, I’ve seen stand your ground be used to try and get out of murder.

There isn’t one thing that I ever heard from him that I agree on, so maybe there’s something political we agree on, but I am 99.9% sure there isn’t. Many people on this site agree with his political ideals and I have argued/discussed those differences and have been called names and have called names, so no I’m pretty sure him and I would not agree on anything politically, which is fine.

1A- I believe in this amendment in any form, whether I agree with the person or not.
2A- This one is murky with me, so no I don’t believe him and I agree on this

Now here is where him and I agree, they should release the ALL Epstein files and no matter who is on it, they should be held accountable and in prison, I don’t care whether their liberal, leftist, republican, conservative, etc. Not sure if he agreed everybody on it should be held accountable no matter political party affiliation.

 

[TerryP]

Right there in front of everyone to see...People just don't want too..

Overheard: "We're going to shoot him. I'm going to stand behind him and give the signal."

 

[musso]

Pure stupidity.

Another way to respond could have been “Please elaborate. What do you think is the significance of these gestures?”

I mean really, you sometimes act like you’re invested in an agenda of circumscribing acceptable points of view. Expecting our government and mainstream news to deliver the truth to us on critical events has proven futile. Therefore if I were running this forum, I’d personally be interested in welcoming, hearing, and understanding all opinions on such tragedies.

 

[TerryP]

Abortions- he was adamantly against abortion for any reason

Not what I said nor inferred; reducing being a key word. Far too many which you have agreed upon, here, with me.

Again. You aren't disagreeing with him on the end goals of these debates. It's how one wants it done compared to another. The fact you want the same goal is something you have in common.

The core principle of his tour was civil discussions on political issues. Are you saying that's something you disagree with? I'm mean, come on. I get you don't care for who he voted for; but we are all after the same goals. Which means, at the core, there's agreement.

 

[TerryP]

Another way to respond could have been “Please elaborate. What do you think is the significance of these gestures?”

I mean really, you sometimes act like you’re invested in an agenda of circumscribing acceptable points of view. Expecting our government and mainstream news to deliver the truth to us on critical events has proven futile. Therefore if I were running this forum, I’d personally be interested in welcoming, hearing, and understanding all opinions on such tragedies.

Sure. If there were a reason to believe a guy involved is standing behind the target during a long range shot.

It's pure stupidity either way you view the video: the suggestion of conspiracy or the action of the accomplice.

 

[musso]

Sure. If there were a reason to believe a guy involved is standing behind the target during a long range shot.

It's pure stupidity either way you view the video: the suggestion of conspiracy or the action of the accomplice.

He didn’t even provide any commentary at first, just the video. You’re doing something similar to what the killer did: shutting down dialogue, discourse, conversation, debate, mutual understanding, etc. Who are you to say anything is stupid when we know so little at this point? At the very least show others some respect by asking for elaboration and challenging claims rather than being a petulant bully and calling posts stupid. Or how about, don’t respond at all. That’s always the more polite option.

 

[TerryP]

You made me snicker with this:

Therefore if I were running this forum,

Who am I to say?

I don't know, a guy who comments because it's given right by his creator to do so? I can think of a few other reasons for me to say what I say on this forum.

Would you like an ordered or unordered list? I built in both of them.

 

[musso]

You made me snicker with this:





I don't know, a guy who comments because it's given right by his creator to do so? I can think of a few other reasons for me to say what I say on this forum.

Would you like an ordered or unordered list? I built in both of them.

Wow.

 

[TerryP]

I didn't listen to the entire clip: only a few seconds. (I HATE dealing with Medicare B things for my mom! One hour, eight minutes, and still on the phone working on details.)

His voice is what caught my attention. Talk about made for audiobooks!

 

[TerryP]

Tyler Robinson trending on X as suspect... here's the thread

https://x.com/search?q=%22Tyler%20Robinson%22&src=trend_click&vertical=trends

 

[ElephantStomp]

Tyler Robinson trending on X as suspect... here's the thread

https://x.com/search?q=%22Tyler%20Robinson%22&src=trend_click&vertical=trends

He was arrested. 22 years old. No party affiliation and hadnt voted in at least the last two elections

 

[ElephantStomp]

Not what I said nor inferred; reducing being a key word. Far too many which you have agreed upon, here, with me.

Again. You aren't disagreeing with him on the end goals of these debates. It's how one wants it done compared to another. The fact you want the same goal is something you have in common.

The core principle of his tour was civil discussions on political issues. Are you saying that's something you disagree with? I'm mean, come on. I get you don't care for who he voted for; but we are all after the same goals. Which means, at the core, there's agreement.

Huge difference between reduce and completely eliminate, so no we disagreed on that. The end goal(s) is important when saying whether a person agrees with somebody or not. The end goal in this case we don’t agree on, so no we don’t want the same goal.

Great we all agree with the constitution, so yes you’re right there’s agreement, that’s where it ends.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

He was arrested. 22 years old. No party affiliation and hadnt voted in at least the last two elections

It's apparent he was anti-fascist, even if he didn't realize that Kirk was not a fascist. He expressed anger over Kirk's positions and was angry Kirk was coming to Utah. I doubt he was angry because he was to the right of Kirk. Party affiliation aside, I'd say that puts him solidly left.

Any denial that this guy isn't on the left is on par with "water isn't wet" and "the sky isn't blue".

 

[24and7]

Overheard: "We're going to shoot him. I'm going to stand behind him and give the signal."

Wasn't standing directly behind him... but that's OK.. I was just disseminating some information....

 

[Krimson]

I didn't listen to the entire clip: only a few seconds. (I HATE dealing with Medicare B things for my mom! One hour, eight minutes, and still on the phone working on details.)

His voice is what caught my attention. Talk about made for audiobooks!

He's right and so are you.

 

[24and7]

The thing that bothers me the most about this thing... Suddenly the mockingbird media is saying that this guy was "not a professional" and a lone wolf.. This guy had lots of help.... and they must have trained for this!... several decoys was arrested, including a man with a scoped pellet rifle.. one man started screaming USA! USA! (On camera). directly after the murder.... A group of professionals will make it look like a group of novices did this.. we are seeing the exact same pattern as political murders such as JFK, RFK Martin Luther King, and some of our past presidents..This has to be CIA or Mossad, it's not just a spontaneous event or their assets..

 

[TerryP]

He was arrested. 22 years old. No party affiliation and hadnt voted in at least the last two elections

I can't seem to get shit done today. I haven't delved that deep; just read the snippets on what was trending. I've seen ANTIFA mentions...and my knowledge of him ends there. Oh, did see where his father turned him in. Geez. That's gotta a tough one.