šŸŒŽ Charlie Kirk shot during speech in Utah...

Huge difference between reduce and completely eliminate, so no we disagreed on that. The end goal(s) is important when saying whether a person agrees with somebody or not. The end goal in this case we don’t agree on, so no we don’t want the same goal.
You and I talked about there being far, far too many. He wants none. I, as you, believe there should be limits.

In the end we're all looking at the same thing: far, far too many.
Great we all agree with the constitution, so yes you’re right there’s agreement, that’s where it ends.
I'll bet you don't like the administrations use of the Guard, he did, but we all agree something has to be done.

Core principles. It's how.
 
The thing that bothers me the most about this thing... Suddenly the mockingbird media is saying that this guy was "not a professional" and a lone wolf.. This guy had lots of help.... and they must have trained for this!... several decoys was arrested, including a man with a scoped pellet rifle.. one man started screaming USA! USA! (On camera). directly after the murder.... A group of professionals will make it look like a group of novices did this.. we are seeing the exact same pattern as political murders such as JFK, RFK Martin Luther King, and some of our past presidents..This has to be CIA or Mossad, it's not just a spontaneous event or their assets..
If you believe the same thing about Trump's assassination attempts, why weren't they successful? Did John Hinkley train for his attempt?

CIA? Mossad?
 
If you believe the same thing about Trump's assassination attempts, why weren't they successful? Did John Hinkley train for his attempt?

CIA? Mossad?
There was more to all of them than we are allowed to know... Reagan shot, Gerald Ford shot at, Trump winged.. Bush's, Obama, Biden and the Clintons, not ONE... These assassination attempts are being allowed to happen.. and remember a lot of CIA just got their security clearance revoked and fired...The Antifa and BLM groups are never attacked by the government... but conservatives are... if you are on the wrong side of the deep state, you may end up getting killed.. but these killings are not going to stop anytime soon, because they are important to both political parties... this sounds like a bad thing to say, but Charlie Kirk's murder was a big $$$$ boon for politics..
 
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There was more to all of them than we are allowed to know... Reagan shot Gerald Ford shot Trump winged.. Obama, Biden and the Clintons, not ONE... These assassination attempts are being allowed to happen.. and remember a lot of CIA just got their security clearance revoked and fired...The Antifa and BLM groups are never attacked by the government... but conservatives are... if you are on the wrong side of the deep state, you may end up getting killed.. but these killings are not going to stop anytime soon, because they are important to both political parties... this sounds like a bad thing to say, but Charlie Kirk's murder was a big $$$$ boon for politics..
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I can't seem to get shit done today. I haven't delved that deep; just read the snippets on what was trending. I've seen ANTIFA mentions...and my knowledge of him ends there. Oh, did see where his father turned him in. Geez. That's gotta a tough one.
Told my wife I just couldn't have turned him in if it was my son. President on down is pushing for the death penalty, which I agree with, so I don't think I could've done it. Hope I'm never in a spot like that to have to find out.
 
Told my wife I just couldn't have turned him in if it was my son. President on down is pushing for the death penalty, which I agree with, so I don't think I could've done it. Hope I'm never in a spot like that to have to find out.
His father was a Highly decorated police officer and a member of the United States marshals task force..
 
Wasn't standing directly behind him... but that's OK.. I was just disseminating some information....
30-06 is going to drop 3.5-4" at 200 yards IF it's a perfect shot. IF. The slightest bit off the shooter is, it's a foot by the time it's reaching the intended target. A foot, and your signal caller is hit. Your best armed forces snipers are always considering line of fire.
 
30-06 is going to drop 3.5-4" at 200 yards IF it's a perfect shot. IF. The slightest bit off the shooter is, it's a foot by the time it's reaching the intended target. A foot, and your signal caller is hit. Your best armed forces snipers are always considering line of fire.
My 30-06 is zeroed at 200 and I'm pretty comfortable with it to 400 but I'm not standing behind a target anyone is shooting at. If he had any training he should've been aiming center mass.
 
30-06 is going to drop 3.5-4" at 200 yards IF it's a perfect shot. IF. The slightest bit off the shooter is, it's a foot by the time it's reaching the intended target. A foot, and your signal caller is hit. Your best armed forces snipers are always considering line of fire.
His father most likely taught him a great deal about shooting... And I know a lot of people that know how to hand load they can make extremely accurate cartridges.. the rifle he supposedly left in the woods is a Mauser or a Jp sauer and sohn (same company in Germany) considered to be very accurate.... unfortunately they will close it out with this guy, and we will probably never find out the rest of the story.. Sad..
 
His father most likely taught him a great deal about shooting...

My 30-06 is zeroed at 200 and I'm pretty comfortable with it to 400 but I'm not standing behind a target anyone is shooting at. If he had any training he should've been aiming center mass.
According to what I've read so far it was a ricochet off of the vest. Do I have that wrong?

If so, that suggests he was aiming for the head and gravity whispered a bit. If he was obsessed with Kirk as much as has been indicated he likely knew of the vest. I assume a shooter would assume he was wearing a vest.
 
According to what I've read so far it was a ricochet off of the vest. Do I have that wrong?

If so, that suggests he was aiming for the head and gravity whispered a bit. If he was obsessed with Kirk as much as has been indicated he likely knew of the vest. I assume a shooter would assume he was wearing a vest.
I've seen reports saying he was and he wasn't wearing a vest. A vest without plates isn't stopping a 30-06. Rifle bullets wouldn't ricochet off of a soft vest and a plate vest would've been more noticeable.
 
According to what I've read so far it was a ricochet off of the vest. Do I have that wrong?

If so, that suggests he was aiming for the head and gravity whispered a bit. If he was obsessed with Kirk as much as has been indicated he likely knew of the vest. I assume a shooter would assume he was wearing a vest.
Yeah, the video was grainy.. some it hit the trama plate most likely level 3+ and ricocheted... Some other claimed entry in right side of chest bounced on collar bone and out the neck.. Arron Cohen said the trama plate..
 
Yeah, the video was grainy.. some it hit the trama plate most likely level 3+ and ricocheted... Some other claimed entry in right side of chest bounced on collar bone and out the neck.. Arron Cohen said the trama plate..
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He was in a T shirt, look at the photos of him sitting in the chair where you can see his chest. He didn't have a plate vest on.

Where do you get information so I can be sure to avoid them?
 
Just checking in on the thread. I’d say I’m surprised where it has gone, yet I’m not. Shame on me.

Im Out GIF
 
Yeah, the video was grainy.. some it hit the trama plate most likely level 3+ and ricocheted... Some other claimed entry in right side of chest bounced on collar bone and out the neck.. Arron Cohen said the trama plate..
He was in a T shirt, look at the photos of him sitting in the chair where you can see his chest. He didn't have a plate vest on.

Where do you get information so I can be sure to avoid them?
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Arron Cohen is the Israeli special ops / mossad commando retired on Fox News..And yes they do make BPV that light .. and that was stated by several outlets that he wore a bulletproof because he believed he was going to be killed...

 
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