🏀 Barn Hires Bruce Pearl

No doubt. With great risk comes great rewards. I can imagine the reaction of Tennessee against Bama, after having hired Kiffin, if Pearl had been hired in Tuscaloosa. It would have been priceless. Pearl is making the same amount as Grant if I'm not mistaken. Replacement for Releford. Everyone else returning, or at least it looks that way right now. Good recruiting class. PJ, you know more about basketball than me, but I think we could coach the Tide to the tourney next season. Grant has no excuse. I think he'll hit Battle's mark of making the tourney. That's his ceiling though.
 
Granted I have no magic 8 ball, but on the surface I would say this is a pretty dog gone good hire by the Barn. Guy can coach and is very charismatic. I think their BB program will be relevant sooner rather than later. Only time will tell, but I think Auburn will own the state in Basketball unless something changes at Alabama. Grant figures out how to get more from the good talent he has brought in, or Battle pulls the trigger on someone else. Like I said yesterday, who could you get? I think Auburn just got the best coach available for basketball.
 
Granted I have no magic 8 ball, but on the surface I would say this is a pretty dog gone good hire by the Barn. Guy can coach and is very charismatic. I think their BB program will be relevant sooner rather than later. Only time will tell, but I think Auburn will own the state in Basketball unless something changes at Alabama. Grant figures out how to get more from the good talent he has brought in, or Battle pulls the trigger on someone else. Like I said yesterday, who could you get? I think Auburn just got the best coach available for basketball.
I see what you did there...
 

First of all, terrypedigo is wrong. They are all a bunch of whiners.

Secondly, while both posters make a good point here:

Originally Posted by Tennman47

Did anyone see the reception Pearl got at the airport. We had that. Now we cant stay awake.
Had what? Less than 50 fans?


For a fan base whose expectations have been kept on ground minus zero for ten plus years, that's a pretty good reaction. And an even better one at their arena. Pearl buys a ton of pizzas for the student body and the barn puts on a pep rally to welcome him. They're excited. Like the UThug fans, we're asleep.

No, I don't think he's there for the long run, either, but he's going to do a really good job for them while he's there.
 
First of all, terrypedigo is wrong. They are all a bunch of whiners.

Secondly, while both posters make a good point here:




For a fan base whose expectations have been kept on ground minus zero for ten plus years, that's a pretty good reaction. And an even better one at their arena. Pearl buys a ton of pizzas for the student body and the barn puts on a pep rally to welcome him. They're excited. Like the UThug fans, we're asleep.

No, I don't think he's there for the long run, either, but he's going to do a really good job for them while he's there.

Good points. Hard to tell how long he'll hang around though. Lots of people thought Saban would have already been long gone. You just never know.
 
He was an assistant in the B1g. I could see him going back theA. To the thought that Pearl will own the state, it has been years since any coach in this state has been a success based on in state recruiting. Newtons teams werehome grown, but Birmingham is no longer a rich source of high school basketball talent. This seasons roster has almost as many players from overseas as from in state.
 
Competition in the conference is the answer, not coaching. And that's where your analogy loses all of its steam. If you can bench 300 and you bench against people who can only press 250, you look pretty strong. If you bench against folks who top four-hundred, you look weak. That's the case with Pearl. So the conference was better and Pearl supposedly did worse. This year, the SEC is awful. There's no denying it. Alabama did poorly in a year that was terrible for the conference. What does that say for Grant?

This thread is about Pearl. I realize you don't agree with Battle's decision on Grant, but continually going back to the subject?

Competition in conference is the answer? Answer to what? You've lost me. Are you the Vols having fewer wins in the last of his tenure was a result of the conference being better? Would that not be a direct indictment on his coaching ability?

What people seem to be forgetting, or ignoring, is Pearl's tenure isn't just defined by the NCAA issue. There were numerous off-the-court problems going on in Knoxville. I would think after dealing with those under Gottfried you'd want to stay away from scenarios like that.

It's his programs as a whole that make me look at this hire and it's what led me to say, "I don't make much of it..."

Laud his tournament record if you like. His best season in conference was in 2008-2009—a team with three seniors leading the way. It was also a team that had two kicked off for substance abuse issues and academics.
 
You think this in a way could benefit UA? I mean, I'm not trying to say Pearl will be great a the barn, but say he is at least has them at a competitive level, could this put more pressure on Anthony Grant to succeed or Bill Battle to go out find the right HC? My reasons about this, is no one likes the be in 2nd place. Auburn has always been that to Alabama and now they're trying to overcome that "little brother" label. You look at Alabama's success in not only football, but softball, gymnastics, M&W Tennis golf now, and baseball back then, Auburn tried their best to go out and compete. You look at their softball, they're ranked in the top 25 the last I checked. Gymnastics too. They've always been right there in baseball. I'm saying this could work to our favor if in fact Pearl is successful at Auburn.

With Pearl now there, he brings excitement. Everyone believes a shift in power is now happening, and the recruits will just flow to them now. I don't necessarily agree with that, but its not wrong to assume that is it? You bring in a big name like that, your rival usually tries to counter it to compete with them.
 
AJC's Mark Bradley:

Auburn hires Bruce Pearl. Not sure I would have


Georgia took a risk on Jim Harrick, who’d been fired by UCLA (and then hired by Rhode Island) for lying to his bosses. Louisville just took a risk on Bobby Petrino, who’d been fired by Arkansas (and then hired by Western Kentucky) for … well, you know. So it was no great surprise that Auburn — the school that took a second chance on Cam Newton and Nick Marshall — just hired Bruce Pearl to coach basketball.

Lots of media people really like Bruce Pearl, who had– but of course! — worked for ESPN after getting fired by Tennessee for lying to the NCAA. I’m not among them. I’ve never gotten past him taping a phone call with recruit Deon Thomas that was intended to prove that Jimmy Collins, then an Illinois assistant, had offered Thomas what Pearl, having appointed himself investigator-in-chief, believed were improper inducements. (Pearl was then an Iowa assistant.)

The famous Dick Vitale, who never met a coach he wouldn’t defend, found it hard to defend Pearl then, saying he’d committed “career suicide.”

With Pearl, however, there’s apparently no such thing. Even after getting caught in a lie regarding the recruitment of Aaron Craft, now at Ohio State, Pearl just got himself hired for $14.7 million. (Pearl’s lie: He told investigators he didn’t recognize the place where a cookout was being held, even though photos proved the place was his home. That wasn’t just a bad lie — it was an unbelievably dumb one.)

After Tennessee fired him, Pearl was slapped with the dreaded show-cause penalty by the NCAA, which means that any school wishing to hire that coach over the sanctioned period — Pearl’s was three years, which hasn’t yet expired — would have to go before the NCAA and give a good reason why.

But Auburn, which leads the world in compliance officials, had hired David Didion, who was the lead NCAA investigator on Pearl’s case, and that dollop of serendipity was being cited last week at the SEC tournament by another conference athletic director as to why Pearl-to-Auburn was all but a done deal.

Six days after firing Tony Barbee in an Atlanta hotel after an SEC tournament loss — even Southern Cal waited until Lane Kiffin returned from Tempe before firing him on the airport tarmac — the Tigers hired Pearl. His many media allies are treating this as a case of a good guy who did a bad thing being handed a deserved second chance, and Pearl, who’s quite the charmer, has hit some of the proper notes. “I’m truly humbled and blessed,” he said. Then he started bragging about the size of his contract, which tossed aside the “humble” part.

Nobody questions that Pearl is a good coach. He took Tennessee to the NCAA tournament six years running. But the longtime consensus has been that Auburn ranks alongside Ole Miss as the worst job in the SEC. The Tigers have run through four coaches since Sonny Smith resigned in 1989, and only one of them — Cliff Ellis, who has been everywhere and is now at Coastal Carolina, which is in the NCAA field — was able to take Auburn to the Big Dance. Ellis was fired in 2004, one season after a Sweet Sixteen appearance; not incidentally, the NCAA was investigating the Tigers’ recruiting.

Which is, sad to say, the way of Auburn basketball. In 2000, Chris Porter — the best Tiger player since the days of Charles Barkley and Chuck Person — was ruled ineligible for the final eight games after it was revealed that he’d accepted $2,500 from an agent. The Tigers had entered that season ranked No. 1 by Sports Illustrated, which featured Porter on its cover. In 2012, guard Varez Ward was suspended by Barbee ahead of a point-shaving investigation. Ward was indicted the next year. In February he entered a pre-trial diversion program.

Given the peculiar nature of Auburn sports — Terry Bowden quit as football coach in the middle of a season; school officials approached Petrino, then in his first stint at Louisville, about replacing Tommy Tuberville while the latter was still employed; Gene Chizik was fired two years after leading the Tigers to a BCS title with Newton — I’m not sure this is the place for Pearl. Strange things happen in the Loveliest Village, and Pearl, who’s visible and voluble, isn’t one to shutter himself in the gym.

Back to Harrick: The charming rogue had Georgia basketball in the Top 25 when Tony Cole went on ESPN. Within two weeks, the school pulled its team from both the 2003 SEC and the NCAA tournaments. Not saying that all second chances for proven liars will meet such an egregious end. But it did seem worth mentioning
 
I think they paid too much and I don't think its the great hire that everyone else does.

That being said, I'm tired of talking about Auburn.

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I wish folks would realize that retaining Grant and Auburn hiring Pearl are two different subjects: mutually exclusive decisions, if you will.
 
I think it's as good of a hire as Auburn could ever hope to make if winning is the #1 goal. Auburn has one of the worst programs in the nation and they hire a name guy like Pearl. I do agree that Auburn hiring Pearl should have zero effect on any moves that Alabama makes.
 
Ok, one more from 2010 outta (Milwaukee Wisconsin Journal Sentinel). Seems everyone forgets about Pearl's past transgressions...aka, prior to Tennessee.


When Bo Ryan left UW-Milwaukee for Wisconsin in 2001, UWM was the only Division I school in the country willing to take a risk on Bruce Pearl.

Pearl had been blackballed by big-time college basketball because of an incident that had his career track seemingly stuck forever at D-II Southern Indiana. Even UWM seemed like a remote dream at the time for a guy like Pearl.

Pretty much everyone knows the story. For those who don't, Pearl was an Iowa assistant in the late-'80s. The Hawkeyes and the University of Illinois were fighting over the same Chicago recruit, Deon Thomas. After Thomas chose the Illini, Pearl turned over to the NCAA a tape he had secretly recorded between Thomas and Illinois assistant Jimmy Collins. Pearl claimed Illinois offered Thomas a car and cash. The NCAA didn't bust Illinois over Thomas, but it later came down on the Illini for other things. Thomas publicly called Pearl "a snake." Collins would not shake Pearl's hand when Collins coached Illinois-Chicago. Somewhere today, Collins is probably laughing.


It was sort of like Pearl had violated some sort of honor-among-thieves code. Dick Vitale called Pearl's move "career suicide," and for a long time it looked like Dickie V. was right . . . at least until the Panthers came calling with a job offer.


At the time I was covering the Bucks but remembered the Collins-Thomas issue from when I was on the Big Ten beat. I remember thinking, OK, that was a long time ago, the guy probably deserves a second chance even if he was a character risk, who knows what really happened, etc., etc. . . . the usual rationalizations. I was also wondering what harm he could do at UWM.


Then when Pearl started charming everyone on campus, in town, the media and actually got the Panthers to the Sweet 16, everything was forgotten as he put UWM on the national stage. It was a huge feel-good story, a national story. Reporters from all over made the trek to the lower east side. He was such a sensation that a giant school like Tennessee was willing to overlook his past and give him a massive contract to climb the career ladder he had once pulled from beneath himself. No one around here was terribly upset with Pearl for leaving. They were grateful that he got UWM to the big-time and wished him well, even if he was gone within hours of UWM's loss to - what a coincidence - Illinois in the Sweet 16.


Of course, things that seem too good to be true usually are.


When Pearl began to get in big NCAA trouble at UT recently, I saw it as the Vols problem and pretty much left it at that. You knew he was slick as a lot of successful college coaches are - and, anyway, he had been gone a long time.


But now, Pearl's past is catching up with him again. By now you're familair with the story of the minor violation UWM self-reported on Pearl six years ago. It doesn't reflect on UWM as much as it does on the pattern of an alleged repeat violator who knew the rules back then but apparently continued to ignore them when he got his second huge career break at Tennessee. You could wonder why a guy as lucky as Pearl to get another shot - this one at the big-time - would jeopardize it, but then again, you really don't. If Vitale's words stick this time, that's Pearl's problem.


My only interest is what this says about UWM.


I'm aware of the process under which Pearl was hired. It was fairly simple and quick. Still, it's more than fair to ask: Although Pearl was highly successful at D-II, why didn't it raise a huge red flag at UWM when there was no competition for his services?


But it wasn't as if the Panthers were willing to look the other way or anything like that. Pearl was not guilty of breaking any NCAA rules at Iowa. More than anything, UWM was naive. Some of the people at UWM weren't even aware of the long-past Iowa-Illinois incident. UWM was a small school starting to have a little basketball success with Ryan and was eager to keep it going. There was nothing irregular about the hiring, not over there, believe me. Pearl was eager to take any D-I job and UWM was thrilled to have him. It was pretty much as straight-forward and innocent as that.


So this isn't a case of the ends justifying the means, not at UWM. In fact, other than UWM's stepping-stone status, the ongoing Pearl saga reflects little about the school at all.


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I think that this hire sets Auburn as the 3rd best hire in SEC history over the last 20 years. Pearl will win and will make a showing for Auburn like never before. Forget about his NCAA troubles and off campus activites he know how to win and recruit. I would bet that Auburn has Pearl's problems with NCAA go away and be on the recruiting trail within a month after contacting NCAA and Mike Slive for cause.
I am Alabama all the way but I think Aalabama just took a step backward again with this hire and keeping Grant
as part of T'town. Hope that I am wrong but Pearl knows basketball and will produce.
ROLL TIDE ROLL
 
Chief, I would call this a potentially great hire that has a high risk factor. Pearl showed, in his recent past, not only a willingness to break the rules, but a willingness to try to cover up the rule breaking. When you add in the near universal dislike that other coaches have for him, he will have to walk a difficult path.

Indeed, he's been guilty of skirting the rules and he'll definitely have to take a different, more honest approach if he wants to have sustained success in the SEC. However, if he can do that, Auburn will be much improved and quickly IMO. Pearl has 15 million reasons to make sure he follows the rules and walks the straight and narrow.
 
I think they paid too much and I don't think its the great hire that everyone else does.

That being said, I'm tired of talking about Auburn.

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I wish folks would realize that retaining Grant and Auburn hiring Pearl are two different subjects: mutually exclusive decisions, if you will.

I don't think Auburn overpaid for him no more than we overpaid for Grant. Two different subjects is right...Auburn got a better HC we stayed with the same.

But, he's our coach, so support I will
 
Changing the subject a bit here...and it's about the inconsistency with the NCAA selection process.

Pearl had one season where UT's SEC record was better than Alabama's under, another where it was the same. Four seasons that were worse. Yet, the Vols get invitations to the dance each season.

Why?
He was 29-19 in his last three seasons at UT—last season was 8-8. If you look at his conference record it got progressively worse.

Auburn had three seniors, a Jr. and a frosh this season. Pearl can't recruit until August due to the show-cause.

Based on his record at UT it's a legitimate question to ask did the program regress with his recruits? Is it going to be hampered by him being off the recruiting trail until August?

Terry, here's your post about Pearl and the SEC. Those seasons can't compare to the last few in the SEC. I'm saying the SEC was better then. Pearl's success in the tourney is evidence of it. The committee was right. Pearl's teams were pretty darn good. Grant's record doesn't hold a candle to his.
 
I've been thinking about this the last few weeks.

I'm curious as to how you guys feel about Pearl today?

None of us knew how it would work when Auburn hired him. As seen in this thread, I wasn't convinced his tenure at UT meant much. Now, we're looking at a coach who has the worst record of any coach in the SEC over the past three years.

What's everyone's opinion on Pearl now, versus what you thought a few years ago?
 
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