🏀 Barn Hires Bruce Pearl

[bama alum]

Good pick up for them. I wonder what the reaction of both fan bases would be if it became necessary (treading water there,yes) if Battle hired Chuck Person next year.

 

[ElephantStomp]

Alabama is now going to be second place in the state.

Lack of talent or not they're going win

 

[planomateo]

Jacobs doesn't have a very good track record of good hires, we'll see how this one pans out.

 

[ElephantStomp]

Jacobs doesn't have a very good track record of good hires, we'll see how this one pans out.

On the surface this is a great hire. His football coach has panned out decent too.

 

[TheChief]

This is a wake-up call to all the fans wanting to retain Grant and whistling past the graveyard about Pearl. Not only is Bama baskeball irrelevant, it will be at least one more year before UA can begin building toward relevance.

 

[planomateo]

On the surface this is a great hire. His football coach has panned out decent too.

After one season? Do we need to talk about the last coach that panned out for one season?

 

[ElephantStomp]

On the surface this is a great hire. His football coach has panned out decent too.

After one season? Do we need to talk about the last coach that panned out for one season?

It has panned out to this point. The guy got his team to the NC. Now sure luck had a lot to do with it, but they still got there.

Pearl is a great coach, he skirted the rules obviously and has paid for it, but just purely on a Xs and Os standpoint this is a great hire for them

 

[TerryP]

Shocks the hell out of me. I didn't see a chance in hell of him taking the job down there.

I don't make much of it, though.

 

[TheChief]

I have to completely disagree. I see this as a game changer in the SEC. I couldn't stand him at UT, and I think he's hypocritical (or at least his actions at UT were). He's also very good. Time will tell.

 

[riz]

Good hire. Once August passes, look out.

 

[TerryP]

Changing the subject a bit here...and it's about the inconsistency with the NCAA selection process.

Pearl had one season where UT's SEC record was better than Alabama's under, another where it was the same. Four seasons that were worse. Yet, the Vols get invitations to the dance each season.

Why?

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He was 29-19 in his last three seasons at UT—last season was 8-8. If you look at his conference record it got progressively worse.

Auburn had three seniors, a Jr. and a frosh this season. Pearl can't recruit until August due to the show-cause.

Based on his record at UT it's a legitimate question to ask did the program regress with his recruits? Is it going to be hampered by him being off the recruiting trail until August?

 

[alabama mike]

At least he can still wear his orange blazer. :shake:

 

[psychojoe]

Speaking of the NCAA, Pearl is under a three year show cause order, which runs through August 23 of this year. Unless the barn gets relief from the NCAA, Pearl will be very limited as far as what he can do in recruiting until then. Since that is an important period in basketball recruiting, it will be interesting.

 

[ElephantStomp]

Changing the subject a bit here...and it's about the inconsistency with the NCAA selection process.

Pearl had one season where UT's SEC record was better than Alabama's under, another where it was the same. Four seasons that were worse. Yet, the Vols get invitations to the dance each season.

Why?

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He was 29-19 in his last three seasons at UT—last season was 8-8. If you look at his conference record it got progressively worse.

Auburn had three seniors, a Jr. and a frosh this season. Pearl can't recruit until August due to the show-cause.

Based on his record at UT it's a legitimate question to ask did the program regress with his recruits? Is it going to be hampered by him being off the recruiting trail until August?

He was 231-99 in 10 years at Milwaukee and Tennessee. That's a good record no matter how you slice it.

I think ink his not being able to recruit until August is going to hurt, but I would almost guarantee that Jacobs and Auburn try to get that lessened or rather I would be shocked if they didn't.

In line with your regression question couldn't the same be said of Grant? Williams at UNC?

 

[TerryP]

He was 231-99 in 10 years at Milwaukee and Tennessee. That's a good record no matter how you slice it.

I think ink his not being able to recruit until August is going to hurt, but I would almost guarantee that Jacobs and Auburn try to get that lessened or rather I would be shocked if they didn't.

In line with your regression question couldn't the same be said of Grant? Williams at UNC?

As I see it, there are far too many different circumstances to compare any of these coaches with each other. Now, Williams has had a bad start to the 2014-2015 season but digress?

By digress, I'm specifically referring to UT's conference record the last four years. 14 wins followed by 10, 11, and then 8.

Grant sits at 12, then 8, 12, and this year's total of 7. Up and down, inconsistent. Digression? The 12 last season disputes that.

Williams? He's actually won big, and won big at more than one school—Kansas and UNC for goodness sake. Two basketball schools that nary a school in the SEC, save UK, even belong in the same conversation. Hell Stomp, his accomplishments are graded by NCAA appearances.

As to Williams and digression...conference wins over the last four years are 14, 14, 12, and 13. How's that digression?

I've not seen anything (as of this morning) that leads me to believe Auburn is going to, or has a chance of, trying to get the show cause order changed.

I'm not saying Pearl isn't a decent basketball coach. I am saying that while it's a solid hire, I don't see it as a hire that's going to change the landscape of the SEC. It reminds me of Arkansas hiring Petrino and how so many claimed that was going to put them in the drivers seat in the SEC—yet he couldn't win the big ones.

I very well could be wrong about how well he does at Auburn. We'll soon see. It's not something I'm overly concerned about—just like everything else at Auburn.

 

[TerryP]

Speaking of the NCAA, Pearl is under a three year show cause order, which runs through August 23 of this year. Unless the barn gets relief from the NCAA, Pearl will be very limited as far as what he can do in recruiting until then. Since that is an important period in basketball recruiting, it will be interesting.

As I understand the "show-cause" penalty and what's been handed down to Pearl he can't have any contact with recruits until August. His assistants can recruit and host prospects.

One conversation. One phone call. It's a hell of a risk.

 

[bamaraider]

Oh well. Good hire for them, should have them competing in maybe 2-3 years.

Basketball in the state of Alabama just got a whole lot more interesting. This maybe one of those things that adds even more pressure for Grant to put together a damn good team because I think we all know Pearl can put up together a team to compete for the tournament.

 

[TheChief]

As I see it, there are far too many different circumstances to compare any of these coaches with each other. Now, Williams has had a bad start to the 2014-2015 season but digress?

By digress, I'm specifically referring to UT's conference record the last four years. 14 wins followed by 10, 11, and then 8.

Grant sits at 12, then 8, 12, and this year's total of 7. Up and down, inconsistent. Digression? The 12 last season disputes that.

Williams? He's actually won big, and won big at more than one school—Kansas and UNC for goodness sake. Two basketball schools that nary a school in the SEC, save UK, even belong in the same conversation. Hell Stomp, his accomplishments are graded by NCAA appearances.

As to Williams and digression...conference wins over the last four years are 14, 14, 12, and 13. How's that digression?

I've not seen anything (as of this morning) that leads me to believe Auburn is going to, or has a chance of, trying to get the show cause order changed.

I'm not saying Pearl isn't a decent basketball coach. I am saying that while it's a solid hire, I don't see it as a hire that's going to change the landscape of the SEC. It reminds me of Arkansas hiring Petrino and how so many claimed that was going to put them in the drivers seat in the SEC—yet he couldn't win the big ones.

I very well could be wrong about how well he does at Auburn. We'll soon see. It's not something I'm overly concerned about—just like everything else at Auburn.

Competition in the conference is the answer, not coaching. And that's where your analogy loses all of its steam. If you can bench 300 and you bench against people who can only press 250, you look pretty strong. If you bench against folks who top four-hundred, you look weak. That's the case with Pearl. So the conference was better and Pearl supposedly did worse. This year, the SEC is awful. There's no denying it. Alabama did poorly in a year that was terrible for the conference. What does that say for Grant?

 

[TheChief]

Furthermore, Terry, picking out conference record. Look at his NCAA tourney record. Made it to the Sweet 16 how many times? Made it to the Great 8. Made the tourney how many years in a row? Let me know when Grant can come close to that. He was available. Bama passed on a better coach than they have. Recruiting? Tell an assistant to deliver a message. Call this hire what it was: a great hire.

 

[psychojoe]

Chief, I would call this a potentially great hire that has a high risk factor. Pearl showed, in his recent past, not only a willingness to break the rules, but a willingness to try to cover up the rule breaking. When you add in the near universal dislike that other coaches have for him, he will have to walk a difficult path.