Until that miserable puke tells me who the bagman is, I'll continue to use a fresh steaming pile of Cow$hit over him as a source of any information. Absolute blow-hard. As they say in Texas, all hat and no cattle.
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Until that miserable puke tells me who the bagman is, I'll continue to use a fresh steaming pile of Cow$hit over him as a source of any information. Absolute blow-hard. As they say in Texas, all hat and no cattle.
50+yeartidefan
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That an interesting thought..... I believe Mal got a clean glowingreview on Mike Price...lol
50+yeartidefan
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Or hes just whistling Dixie...so says in Alabama
Some of these guys put 2+2 and get 5...
If those 3 are against...and it gets done
The real power is a out to rear up
Rolltide24
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50+yeartidefan
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They still want "Chucky"......
JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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Marshall says he won't be considered. Jay G. Tate says he will be considered. It's easy to see where they're getting their information: Marshall from the OG and Tate depending on which way the wind is blowing on the 'Intrawebz' today.
I don't believe Freeze in the slightest bit. To take it a step further what part of Auburn is a better job than Liberty?
Facilities? Liberty.
Financial backing for the program? Liberty.
Most stability in leadership (President, Athletic Director?) Liberty.
JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
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Nobody gives a shit about what is happening at Liberty.
The barn will pay the guy 6-7 to take this gig. Coaching in the SEC is a big deal and will only grow larger with UT and OU just over the hill.
Do not pass go and do not collect $200.
LU is one of the better coaching jobs in college football. It's better than a lot of P5 jobs.
Few schools can touch the monies invested in their athletics and even fewer can compete with the amount they pay their head coach. Their facilities are better than 90% of college football programs: P5 and G5.
Justneedme81
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I completely agree. But one thing that make me wonder, With all better faciliites they have and Hugh Freeze known for developing a QB, their record hasn't exactly been stellar in past 3 years. 8-5, 10-1, 8-5. Is he getting more 4 stars to come play for him?
Justneedme81
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So, If they do fire him.. they'll go back to their Option b... The guy who took Miami DC job. Kevin Steele...
mando
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@TerryP you leave me scratching my head sometimes. Not denying anything you are saying but no comparison between an SEC school and Liberty with regards to prestige, competition and the ceiling even down in the cow pasture. Ego's that drive most coaches want to see if they can compete with anyone so they will want to be at a program in the SEC.
Justneedme81
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Not always about Ego... Sometime it's about money and security and never hvae to deal with high pressure that coaches face in SEC.
Beside have you been to Liberty university? Whew man....
50+yeartidefan
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Regardless of problems at AU....big difference between AU n Liberty
Stadium at Liberty...25K
Average attendance....22-23K
Big on campus games...in 22...BYU n VaTech
Independent/Conference C-USA (soonto be anyway)
But.....a place a HC could be happy....less pressure....good money..good facilities...
He's an eight to ten wins per season coach in my view. Early on in his career he hit 12 with a NAIA school. His best season at Ole Miss was 10 and the Rebels were back to a five win season the next year.
His last class was a three star class: every single one of them.
Here's something I believe is missed with Freeze. We all know why he's lusted after by schools looking for a head coach: two wins over Alabama. It's not his recruiting.
His offense is what led to the improvement at Ole Miss: seven, eight, nine, then ten wins in 2015. Step back for a minute and consider this: what were we seeing at Bama at the time. In '12 they're running as pure of a pro set as we'll find in college football. By '15 we're watching Alabama emerging as one of the better spread offenses in the game. Freeze just happened to be a few years ahead of Alabama and Saban with the shift to an offensive approach.
That was his key. That was his advantage. Which leaves me with this question:
Today, does a Freeze offense hold any advantage over other spread offensive approaches? Or is it a situation where college football's coaching staff's caught up to Freeze and his approach?
Like a whore saying "regardless of herpes and gonorrhea I give a mean blow job."
That's Sanders and Rane's "boy." There's a strong contingent down there that'll swear Steele to Malzahn is Oliver to Bowden, part deux.
These same coaches you're referring to understand that even though it's a pasture, the grass isn't necessarily greener.
I believe there's some bias in that thought because of who you are.
Next fall Freeze will be making more than twice as much as any other coach in his conference. He's making as much as a lot of other coaches in P5 jobs; more in some cases. Houston and Cincy pay less and they're joining the Big 12 soon. He's not making Mike Leach money, but he's close. It's the same with Harsin.
Facilities at Liberty beat both of those schools hands down. The administration at Mississippi State is better than Auburn, but I can't say he'd be working for a better AD in Starkville. I don't think John Cohen (MSU) is a bad AD but there's nothing I've seen since '16 at MSU that makes me say "he's a good AD"
Here's something that won't sit right but you'll get the point. Ian McCaw built Baylor as their AD from early on in the 2000's until 2016 when he took the Liberty job. I know it's easy to think, "Baylor, Briles, and that fiasco." But there's no doubt he put together some great facilities for that program. He's done the same for Liberty.
The money is the same, or better.
You've got a better AD when it comes to your program and what it needs.
You don't have a power struggle within the administration: people making decisions about you and your career.
Yes. It's Liberty. But tell me how that's not a better job?
Justneedme81
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Yes, Everyone is literally caught up with Freeze's approach by now except for Georgia
Let's say if Hugh was hired now, and looking at this fall schedule: Loss against Georgia, Ole Miss, Arkansas, Texas A and M, Alabama...
Georgia and Arkansas-Defense.
TAMU- 50/50
Alabama- Loaded Defense.
if he was hired in 2023, that's 3-4 loss.
Doesn't matter who is the HC this fall.. They are likely to have 3-5 losses this year and next year.
50+yeartidefan
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