🏈 Your resident Vols official statement on the Urban M. mess

[ORANGEADDICT]

Heres my official statement on this subject.......This was done to get fans and players fired up. No I dont think we will beat florida next year...yes he may have been a little outta line....BUT NO HEAD COACH IN THE SEC IS A SAINT AND THEY ALL RUN THERE MOUTHS from time to time.The problem I have with it is that it is coming from an unproven coach............There.

Go Vols
Go Bama except when we play.

 

[gumboman]

He also needs to know the rules before he opens his pie-hole. He made a complete ass of himself, but then again, he is comfortable in his own skin.

 

[Guest]

Kiffin has now gotten his hand spanked by the SEC.

http://www.tidesports.com/article/2...1?Title=SEC_reprimands_Tennessee_coach_Kiffin

 

[alagator]

Re: Your resident Vols official statement on the Urban M. me

yes he may have been a little outta line....

Much like the wholly insincere and half-assed apology your coach issued, why don't you make a little more definitive statement here.

Was Kiffin or was he not out of line? Simple question that deserves a simple 'Yes' or 'No' response instead of some 'he may have been.'

Also, what would you think Kiffin intended when he stated (not accused or implied) Meyer willfully violated the rules?

Also, why was it Kiffin did not know, of all things, the 'Fulmer Rule?'

Be definitive in your responses, if you can.

 

[ORANGEADDICT]

Re: Your resident Vols official statement on the Urban M. me

yes he may have been a little outta line....

Much like the wholly insincere and half-assed apology your coach issued, why don't you make a little more definitive statement here.

Was Kiffin or was he not out of line? Simple question that deserves a simple 'Yes' or 'No' response instead of some 'he may have been.'

Also, what would you think Kiffin intended when he stated (not accused or implied) Meyer willfully violated the rules?

Also, why was it Kiffin did not know, of all things, the 'Fulmer Rule?'

Be definitive in your responses, if you can.

I dont have to be definitive,I laugh in your face for even trying to insult me. I was giving my opinion and my opinion only. You are obviously the only one on here that did not figure it out. I post on here all the time without being insulted, so thanks for reminding me not to get to comfortable .I will say that 99percent of the time I get great football chat on here. I guess you wanna be Mr.1 percent.

 

[imported_porkchop]

Re: Your resident Vols official statement on the Urban M. me

Heres my official statement on this subject.......This was done to get fans and players fired up. No I dont think we will beat florida next year...yes he may have been a little outta line....BUT NO HEAD COACH IN THE SEC IS A SAINT AND THEY ALL RUN THERE MOUTHS from time to time.The problem I have with it is that it is coming from an unproven coach............There.

Go Vols
Go Bama except when we play.

ADDICT, I don't know you so I really have nothing against you, so don't take this personal. But I have to say this.

(1) The intent is to fire up YOUR fans and players. Not the opponents. That was just stupid bulletin board material.

(2)As far as Florida goes, your coach really screwed up bad. You know it. You might not admit it, but you know it. You guys are finished when you head to Gainesville next season. If Florida doesn't score 60 I'll be surprised.

Meyer put a beatdown of monumental proportions on UGA this year for the stunt they pulled, and he actually respects Mark Richt. Imagine what he's gonna do to your boy. Tebow's gonna be able to fill out his Heisman highlight reel off this one.

(3) Most coaches run their mouths in private. At least the smart ones do. Nice job there by you boy though. Leveling accusations at another coach in order to get the Vol fans in a public setting to love him more.

Word of advise for the future: Kiffin should probably get his (insert expletive here) straight next time.

(4) Kiffin's proving himself every day. Just not in the ways UT fans would like.

Like I said ADDICT, no offense, because I know you're just a fan trying to hang out and have a good time on a message board, but your post was a weak defense. You go on a rival forum with that and you're asking to catch you know what.

 

[Bamapossum]

No, Kiffin has pulled several dumb moves in just a few hours.

Let's see if I can fit them all in here...

1. Accuse the coach of an annual rivalry/beatdown of cheating, even though he wasn't.

2. Get a hand slap from the SEC.

3. PO the coach from the Florida HS you just recruited said player from by making false accusations about the school and the coach.

4. Openly talk about sleazy recruiting tactics that he used himself in Florida.

5. Get outed for playing with earlier recruit's cell phone and faking a text message back to the HS coach that he already PO'd.

6. Allow assistant coaches to call out other coaches and beat their chests.

7. Openly talk about the grandmother of a recruit that chose to go elsewhere.

8. Openly talk about how he duped LSU with Jackson.

9.Look like a completely immature weasel while doing all of the above.

All this before having ever won an SEC game!

WOOOOOWWWWW!!!! :shock:

I'm beginning to see Al's point of view. Unless Kiffin "shocks the world" at UT, he is already burning up a LOT of goodwill and equity.

 

[Swamptick]

His statement seemed the kind born of fear as did Lance Thompson's statement.

Fear is an ugly thing.

 

[bamascott2]

We knew Kiffin was young...I didn't realize that he had less maturity than my 13 year old daughter.

His actions should be embarrassing to UT officials. I'd be very embarrassed if he were Bama's HC.

 

[BAMAFSTBACK]

Is it October yet? Them Vols is coming to Tuscaloosa this year! :twisted:

 

[son of tradition]

Hey Paul,
Where you drinking when you posted this? I mean with the official statement business (weird). Notice I am not attacking you but the statement.It was only a matter of time before you had to take up for your coach. You just picked a really bad time to do it. Trust me man, you dont want to jump on board that ship right now. No coxswain in the world could get you through this storm.

 

[UAgrad93]

I teach kindergarten thru 2nd graders and they show more maturity than this little TURD.

 

[son of tradition]

I teach kindergarten thru 2nd graders and they show more maturity than this little TURD

Lets not bash on each other.

 

[alagator]

Re: Your resident Vols official statement on the Urban M. me

yes he may have been a little outta line....

Much like the wholly insincere and half-assed apology your coach issued, why don't you make a little more definitive statement here.

Was Kiffin or was he not out of line? Simple question that deserves a simple 'Yes' or 'No' response instead of some 'he may have been.'

Also, what would you think Kiffin intended when he stated (not accused or implied) Meyer willfully violated the rules?

Also, why was it Kiffin did not know, of all things, the 'Fulmer Rule?'

Be definitive in your responses, if you can.

I dont have to be definitive,I laugh in your face for even trying to insult me. I was giving my opinion and my opinion only. You are obviously the only one on here that did not figure it out. I post on here all the time without being insulted, so thanks for reminding me not to get to comfortable .I will say that 99percent of the time I get great football chat on here. I guess you wanna be Mr.1 percent.

You are correct, you don't HAVE to be definitive. But to pretend to make a stand by offering some mealy-mouthed statement that he 'may have been a little out of line' is not very informative. Nor effective in establishing your position - which afterall was your purpose with your volunteered post.

Your little Boy Blunder spouted off his mouth, yet again, and has been stepped on pretty directly by the SEC Commissioner - in a statement that did not equivocate with qualifying language. Unlike the effort you and Kiffykin have tried to hide behind.

I remember you came here after Fulmer retired (or fired) and stated that you hoped his departure would sooth the wounds his unethical behavior caused. Well, inside a month-or-so little Boy Blunder has made a pattern of unnecessarily angering EVERY top tier program in the league. Is this the way the people of Tennessee perceive seeking harmony? And you cannot even come out and make a declarative statement in opposition.

So terribly sorry that I upset you. Well, not really. See above for why - something along the lines of 'reaping what you sow' and all. Of course this begs the question of why it is you feel offended by being asked to stake out specific opinions on what your coach might have meant by publically calling a rival coach a 'cheater' if no offense was 'intended' or why exactly your coach did not know of a conference rule named for his predecessor?

 

[son of tradition]

You are correct, you don't HAVE to be definitive. But to pretend to make a stand by offering some mealy-mouthed statement that he 'may have been a little out of line' is not very informative. Nor effective in establishing your position - which afterall was your purpose with your volunteered post.

Your little Boy Blunder spouted off his mouth, yet again, and has been stepped on pretty directly by the SEC Commissioner - in a statement that did not equivocate with qualifying language. Unlike the effort you and Kiffykin have tried to hide behind.

I remember you came here after Fulmer retired (or fired) and stated that you hoped his departure would sooth the wounds his unethical behavior caused. Well, inside a month-or-so little Boy Blunder has made a pattern of unnecessarily angering EVERY top tier program in the league. Is this the way the people of Tennessee perceive seeking harmony? And you cannot even come out and make a declarative statement in opposition.

So terribly sorry that I upset you. Well, not really. See above for why - something along the lines of 'reaping what you sow' and all. Of course this begs the question of why it is you feel offended by being asked to stake out specific opinions on what your coach might have meant by publically calling a rival coach a 'cheater' if no offense was 'intended' or why exactly your coach did not know of a conference rule named for his predecessor?

Smacked by the Yellow Hammer!!!

 

[Guest]

ADDICT,
I find it funny that you called all of this the "Urban M. mess".

Seems to me that Urban's brand of "mess" is where every program in the country wants to be. The rest of us think this mess has a unique shade of orange to it.

 

[BamaGradinTN]

Well, when Kiffin was asked by Spurrier if he had taken the test, and Kiffin bragged about only missing one question, I guess we learned yesterday which question he missed! I'm sure Spurrier is laughing his head off over this.

Here's my take on the whole Kiffin thing.

I'm not irritated at all. I think its funny, and I'm glad to see it, because it's in Bama's best interests.

The issue here, as one has already mentioned, is maturity. Kiffin continues to prove that he simply is not mature enough for this job, and that's a good thing for us.

Yes, lots of coaches talk smack. However, there's a big difference between "you can't spell citrus without UT" and accusing a colleague of cheating & committing NCAA violations in a room of 1,000 people.

Again, let's start back at Oakland. I will give Kiffin the benefit of the doubt to a certain extent and agree that Al Davis is a complete moron. But the question is, as a 33 year old, has Kiffin thought about what he could have done differently to be more successful? Any areas where he can improve? I doubt it. When the media start to cirticize, when Vol fans start to boo, will he have the maturity to deal with that?

Some may disagree with this, but I like to make the point about the 76 yard field goal attempt vs. San Diego wih 1 second left in the half. It was one of the stupidest and most immature things I've seen a coach do. You can't say it was a safe play, even though the Raiders were in punt coverage, because guys run punts back for TDs against punt coverage all the time. Plus, in order to kick a ball 76 yards, he would probably have had to kick it with a lower trajectory, increasing the risk of a block. Had SD scored, I expect Kiffin would have been fired the next day. It was a very immature thing to do.

Some may say Kiffin did it to try and get Davis to fire him, or just to irritate him. Again, if you're a UT fan, is that the kind of maturity you want your head coach to display?

Let's talk about the staff. What many UT fans don't realize is that, in addition to hiring some great recruiters, he's hired some huge egos. We saw that Thompson has a monstrous sized ego. When one or two of those assistants realize they would be a better head coach than Kiffin, will Kiffin display the maturity necessary to handle his staff? If assistants clash with each other, especially on defense where he has some of his biggest egos, how will Kiffin handle that. How will guys like Thompson and Ogre react when they clash with Kiffin and then start to realize that Daddy's the real head coach?

As a Bama fan, I'm loving this because I know it's just a question of time before Kiffin's immaturity displays itself on the practice field and in games and costs UT ball games.

 

[Guest]

BGinTN, the ego thing has me very curious as well. I mean that's just too much chest pumping on one staff.

FWIW, Kiffin is getting roasted on sports radio here in ATL.

 

[IllinoisTideFan]

For me, it's the defamation of character leveled towards the staff at the HS in Florida that is simply unforgiveable. They didn't deserve that.

 

[ORANGEADDICT]

Well I didnt mean to ruffle so many feathers, So I apoligize to ya . As for CLK, I am not sure what the guy is doing. I hope this is not a sign of things to come with him or its gonna be a long year till football season and an even longer football season. I admit you guys are right, he has'nt done anything that gives him the right to talk so much smack. I hope his heart is in the right place but who knows. Its one thing to get some folks fired up, but its a whole nother thing to have to be reprimanded by the officials.