Guys, I could see this coming even before Kiffin and during Fulmer though. There has been a change in the fan base beginning in the late '90's, and I know because I've put up with it my entire life. At one time they were a respected, loyal, and honorable opponent. Call it a change in "times" that we old timers (I guess I'm one now) begin lamenting, but the attitude of the vile fans is just that. VILE. There's a downright anger, arrogance, and hatred emmanating from the base aimed at rivals. They are certainly poor winners when it happens on occasion. Personally, I think when you have that attitude you aren't going to win on a consistent basis. Having said that, I see the Kiffin hire as a symptom of the disease not as an abberation of the program.