🏈 With all the coaches fired so far, who would you select as the coach who did the WORST job in 2012?

[TerryP]

It's a long list, eh?

I'm going to put my vote in for someone connected to the state of Alabama and connected to Alabama as a football program.

Ellis Johnson.

Southern Miss recorded 18 straight winning seasons up until this year. And, in one year, winless.

Best fire of the 2013 season.

Sat	@	Nebraska	L
Sat	vs.	*East Carolina	L
Sat	@	Western Kentucky	L
Sat	vs.	Louisville	L
Sat	vs.	Boise State	L
Sat	@	*Central Florida	L
Sat	vs.	*Marshall	L
Sat	@	*Rice	L
Sat	vs.	*Alabama-Birmingham	L
Sat	@	*Southern Methodist	L
Sat	vs.	*Texas-El Paso	L
Sat	@	*Memphis	L

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Southern Mississippi (CUSA)​

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[0LDSCH00L]

Without a doubt, Gene Chizik!

He had it all going his way and he screwed it all up all by himself. All of the other Coaches I can think of had mitigating circumstances that helped their seasons fall apart, but Gene Chizik has nobody to blame other than the guy in the mirror.

 

[TerryP]

Without a doubt, Gene Chizik!

He had it all going his way and he screwed it all up all by himself. All of the other Coaches I can think of had mitigating circumstances that helped their seasons fall apart, but Gene Chizik has nobody to blame other than the guy in the mirror.

What mitigating circumstances did Johnson have?

Chizik's last season is full of mitigating circumstances. In fact, I'd dare say there were as many, if not more, distractions around that campus this year than there were around ours in 2000. Some identical in fact.

 

[XXL TideFan]

Gotta agree with the Ellis Johnson pick. I always thought that he was a good DC.

 

[UAgrad93]

Ellis Johnson inherited a pretty sound program and ran it into the ground, quick, fast, and in a hurry!!

 

[Irish#1]

Danny Hope didn't have a season like Ellis, but he bragged how this was his most talented team and then began to lose. Purdue finished 6-6, but they had the benefit of playing Iowa, Illinois and IU to close the season. All three were very bad this year. It also hurt that he played three QB's every game on a regular basis. It's tough enough to win platooning with two, but I've never heard of any coach playing three QB's. How does anyone get into the flow of a game?

 

[TerryP]

Danny Hope didn't have a season like Ellis, but he bragged how this was his most talented team and then began to lose. Purdue finished 6-6, but they had the benefit of playing Iowa, Illinois and IU to close the season. All three were very bad this year. It also hurt that he played three QB's every game on a regular basis. It's tough enough to win platooning with two, but I've never heard of any coach playing three QB's. How does anyone get into the flow of a game?

If you hang around after this season works its way out you'll eventually see psychojoe post. I mention him because we discuss different games throughout the week that are worth playing.

It's been a running joke, though it's been very true, if we have a tough time to figure out which is the last game to play "pick Illinois, they don't cover" even when being a big dog.

Purdue's action did shock me. I realize they were in Detroit last year for a bowl game but I also had to reflect on the point they hadn't been in a bowl in three or four years prior. Hell, they were 6-6 going into the bowl season last year.

I'm wondering if they somehow had/have an inkling there's a better coach waiting, more importantly willing, to take the job?

 

[0LDSCH00L]

What mitigating circumstances did Johnson have?

Chizik's last season is full of mitigating circumstances. In fact, I'd dare say there were as many, if not more, distractions around that campus this year than there were around ours in 2000. Some identical in fact.

USM has no quality athletes compared to Auburn or any other team for that fact:

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Give Ellis Johnson Auburn's team and I bet he would at least have won one SEC game, LOL

 

[psychojoe]

If you compare performance to pre-season expectations, Lane Kiffin belongs on this list.

 

[TerryP]

If you compare performance to pre-season expectations, Lane Kiffin belongs on this list.

If he's fired... :very_drunk:

 

[TerryP]

USM has no quality athletes compared to Auburn or any other team for that fact:

Yet, out of the 22 starters Johnson had 18 Jr's and Sr's on his starting lineups. So, the same players that were there last year and had a winning record lose every game they had this season? No quality athletes isn't a mitigating circumstance explaining the sudden collapse.

Granted, they were starting a frosh QB and RB. But behind a experience laden offensive line?

 

[Kirk Van de Graaff]

Charlie Weiss stunk it up pretty bad. Not that Kansas is something, but to only get one win? A little Nugget... Buddy Wyatt is coaching the D-line there if you all didn't know.

 

[TerryP]

Charlie Weiss stunk it up pretty bad. Not that Kansas is something, but to only get one win?

True. But, like Kiffin, he hasn't been fired.

You know, a few years ago I touched a cable TV line (barefoot, wet grass) and didn't know they had an electrical current. Do telephone system lines carry a charge as well? And if so, did you touch one today? :tongue-new:

It is nice to see you dropping in more often Kirk!

 

[XXL TideFan]

Yes the phone lines carry an electrical current. Stuck my tongue to the end ONCE! 5 volts I believe.

 

[TerryP]

Yes the phone lines carry an electrical current. Stuck my tongue to the end ONCE! 5 volts I believe.

OK, I don't feel so bad about the cable line now. I certainly didn't stick my tongue on it!!! :rofl:

Hijack is now over...back to original programming. :td:

 

[ElephantStomp]

I would agree with Ellis. I do not understand at all how you take a team like what Ellis inherited and completely ruin it and run it into the ground the way he did

 

[Irish#1]

If you hang around after this season works its way out you'll eventually see psychojoe post. I mention him because we discuss different games throughout the week that are worth playing.

It's been a running joke, though it's been very true, if we have a tough time to figure out which is the last game to play "pick Illinois, they don't cover" even when being a big dog.

Purdue's action did shock me. I realize they were in Detroit last year for a bowl game but I also had to reflect on the point they hadn't been in a bowl in three or four years prior. Hell, they were 6-6 going into the bowl season last year.

I'm wondering if they somehow had/have an inkling there's a better coach waiting, more importantly willing, to take the job?

They don't have one lined up yet. Hope said he didn't have a strong contract and a small pool for asst. coaches. Purdue renovated Ross Ade stadium and Mackey arena and added a really nice new athlectic facility next to them so the facilities aren't the issue. Rumor has it they are going to open their pocket books to get a coach who can bring in good assistants that have experience and can recruit. AD Burke has already reached out to formers Colts GM Bill Polian and current Colts GM Grigson (former Boiler) for advice.

 

[Irish#1]

Charlie Weiss stunk it up pretty bad. Not that Kansas is something, but to only get one win? A little Nugget... Buddy Wyatt is coaching the D-line there if you all didn't know.

Charlie Weiss does not know how to run a college program. When at ND he treated it the same as a pro program. He didn't develop players and he left his assts. fighting with each other all the time. I admire Charlie because as an ND grad he always had the schools best interest at heart, but he was just in over his head.

 

[Kirk Van de Graaff]

True. But, like Kiffin, he hasn't been fired.

You know, a few years ago I touched a cable TV line (barefoot, wet grass) and didn't know they had an electrical current. Do telephone system lines carry a charge as well? And if so, did you touch one today? :tongue-new:

It is nice to see you dropping in more often Kirk!

Thanks bro