| FTBL Who do we play in the Sugar Bowl?

Big_Fan said:
Then next season we will be preseason ranked around 20 because the pollsters hate us.

I think it will have more to with the fact that we will be breaking in a new QB and no team with a new QB finished better than 8-4 this season in the SEC.
 
RollTideRandy said:
Big_Fan said:
Then next season we will be preseason ranked around 20 because the pollsters hate us.

I think it will have more to with the fact that we will be breaking in a new QB and no team with a new QB finished better than 8-4 this season in the SEC.

Nah, it'll be because the media hates us. :D
 
RollTideRandy said:
Big_Fan said:
Then next season we will be preseason ranked around 20 because the pollsters hate us.

I think it will have more to with the fact that we will be breaking in a new QB and no team with a new QB finished better than 8-4 this season in the SEC.

We will be starting a Junior QB in his third season with the same head coach, and second with the same OC.

Two of our OL losses are major, but we have an outstanding JUCO coming in, and DJ Fluker will eventually make people forget about Andre. He is bigger, stronger, and faster than Andre was as a frosh - he needs experience though. Tyler Love and Barrett Jones are not chopped liver, Cardwell will be a Senior, and Vlachos is pretty good. It also helps that Bob Connely is not our OL coach. All in all, I would say our OL will still be among the top units of the SEC next season.

Throw in a more experienced Coffee, Ingram, and Upchurch, add in Trent Richardson (who may be better than any of them), and our running game may be improved.

Julio will be back and improved, as will our entire senior receiving corp. Add in Kendall Kelly and (maybe) Reuben Randall, and the new QB will have a pretty solid supporting cast.

Our defense will be better. We lose Rashad and Greenwood, but there will be little drop off in the replacements, and the surrounding cast will improve. Another year in the system and our defense is going to be deadly.

Honestly, we should be top 5 in the preseason...but I bet we won't be.
 
Big_Fan said:
Two of our OL losses are major...

Don't underestimate the loss of Marlon Davis. He gets overshadowed by Smitty and Caldwell, but he has been a hoss for us this season and will not be easily replaced.
 
I say its like a punishment for Bama and their fans that they will be matched up with Utah. I mean come on, really? Utah? what are they in the WAC MAC? I looked at their schedule and its a JOKE. Other than Oregon State from the POWERHOUSE :roll: PAC-10 and Michigan (i give them props for that one, how could they have known how bad Mich would suck), who have they played? their schedule looks like a who's who of SEC homecoming opponents. Im sorry if this sounds elitist but well, it is. I think there are too many Div 1A teams. Utah, Boise should not be allowed in the BCS at all. Not until they go the route FSU and Miami did in the 70's and 80's. They will get 0 respect from me until they EARN it. I wrote a post about this a few weeks ago and it still makes me mad.

GAHH, this is a punishment! Come on, we thrash Utah and everyone will be like "so what". We lose to them and it will be as bad as losing to ULM last year.

I got to know, if we beat them like UGA beat Hawaii, will that put and end to this garbage? How many of these teams have to come in and get beat down before the BCS says enough?
 
cjaytch said:
I say its like a punishment for Bama and their fans that they will be matched up with Utah. I mean come on, really? Utah? what are they in the WAC MAC? I looked at their schedule and its a JOKE. Other than Oregon State from the POWERHOUSE :roll: PAC-10 and Michigan (i give them props for that one, how could they have known how bad Mich would suck), who have they played? their schedule looks like a who's who of SEC homecoming opponents. Im sorry if this sounds elitist but well, it is. I think there are too many Div 1A teams. Utah, Boise should not be allowed in the BCS at all. Not until they go the route FSU and Miami did in the 70's and 80's. They will get 0 respect from me until they EARN it. I wrote a post about this a few weeks ago and it still makes me mad.

GAHH, this is a punishment! Come on, we thrash Utah and everyone will be like "so what". We lose to them and it will be as bad as losing to ULM last year.

I got to know, if we beat them like UGA beat Hawaii, will that put and end to this garbage? How many of these teams have to come in and get beat down before the BCS says enough?

Other than Notre Dame, there have only been two non-BCS conference schools in BCS Bowl Games. Their record is 1-1. Hardly a precident.

It's probably not a good idea to underestimate an undefeated team Division 1 team, regardless of their conference. Those teams show up to bowl games quite motivated.

Ask Oklahoma.
 
Porter said:
I think the regular season should count for a lot, so I don't like anything more than 4 teams in a playoff. A plus 1 system is good for me. Every BCS conference should have a conference championship game though.

Bran, it doesn't looks like that regular season game between Texas and Oklahoma counted for much, does it?

That's just some more of the BCS bs propaganda to keep the masses appeased. The playoff system works well for all the other divisions; you can't convince me that it wouldn't for the FBS either.
 
I respect Utah for what they've done and if they pull the upset and beat Alabama...I'll be the first in line to offer a hand shake.

However...if they get blown out 55-6...who's fault is that? Not Utah, but the BSSSSSSSS!!!!!

In my opinion this is a no win situation for Bama. Slam Utah by 50 and get no respect. Get beat by Utah and get laughed out of New Orleans.

I'll gladly take a Sugar Bowl victory and consider this season a blessing, but Bama vs Utah is a game that should NEVER HAPPEN unless it's on the hardwood.

~Bryan
 
reger60 said:
Other than Notre Dame, there have only been two non-BCS conference schools in BCS Bowl Games. Their record is 1-1. Hardly a precident.

It's probably not a good idea to underestimate an undefeated team Division 1 team, regardless of their conference. Those teams show up to bowl games quite motivated.

Ask Oklahoma.

Dont misunderstand me now, if Bama doesnt show up, they could lose to Utah. What Im saying is the Utes have played a pathetic schedule and therefore dont deserve to be in a BCS game. People want to complain that the BCS is a "big boys club". Well, it is and it should be. How long has the scholarhip limitations been in place? How many of these non traditional teams have won an NC? If Bama had Utah schedule they could go 12-0 every year.

But according to this
http://blog.al.com/rapsheet/2008/12/big_game_from_crimson_tide.html

"Hoolahan wouldn't say, though among the possibilities are Utah, Cincinnati, and Ohio State. His bowl has the second pick of the at-large teams after the Fiesta Bowl."

I guess there is a chance that we could get OSU. I would love that. :twisted: But seriously, Fiesta has the first pick of an at large team will get them. No bowl game wants Utah or Boise. Could the Sugar pick someone else?
 
bear facts said:
Porter said:
I think the regular season should count for a lot, so I don't like anything more than 4 teams in a playoff. A plus 1 system is good for me. Every BCS conference should have a conference championship game though.

Bran, it doesn't looks like that regular season game between Texas and Oklahoma counted for much, does it?

That's just some more of the BCS bs propaganda to keep the masses appeased. The playoff system works well for all the other divisions; you can't convince me that it wouldn't for the FBS either.

Neither did the UF/Ole Miss game. I just get tired of seeing these horrible bowl matchups every season, and now, more and more, the bad matchups are finding their way into the BCS games. Look at the Sugar Bowl last year. Look at the Orange Bowl this year. There will be more folks watching re-runs of Home Improvement on Nickelodeon that night than there will people be watching Cincy take on VaTech.

The bottom line is Utah should be going against Boise State or Ball State in some pre-Christmas bowl sponsored by a candy bar.

As for playoffs, I think something should be done, but there is simply no need for 16 teams to enter into a playoff. If you are not in the top 4-8 teams at the end of the season, you don't deserve a shot IMO. It apparently ain't ever going to happen though, kinda like a major player 3rd party system in politics, so I don't invest much into it.
 
Rolltide639 said:
Yea I would much rather see a Bama vs. Texas match up and so would the rest of the country I'm sure.

Fiesta Bowl officials are going to pull to get Texas in Tempe, I'm sure. I can't blame them to be honest. And, given these picks are largely motivated by ratings a TX vs OSU match-up would do well.

I haven't watched any of Utah's games this year, but I know they played TCU very close and that's a team that has a solid defense. They've beaten Oregon State.

I'd dare say, if Utah were to play UK, as example, they'd have a pretty good chance to win. In fact, they'd probably give half of the SEC bowl eligible teams a hard fought ball game.
 
reger60 said:
Other than Notre Dame, there have only been two non-BCS conference schools in BCS Bowl Games. Their record is 1-1. Hardly a precident.

It's probably not a good idea to underestimate an undefeated team Division 1 team, regardless of their conference. Those teams show up to bowl games quite motivated.

Ask Oklahoma.

I know I'm being picky, but by my count it's 3 with Utah (W), Boise State (W) and Hawai'i (L). Notre Dame has been twice, if I recall correctly, losing both games.
 
Interesting. They might be in the SEC and have a helluva history, but they still have to live in Alabama.

This from people in Utah...LOL Utah.....yes I have at least been to Utah. Unless you want to snow ski....nothing else there...

Wow go to their website and they have this site linked and how much they hate Alabama already. Really from one tread? Just because we want to a traditional game to kick off..... and how easy we make it to be an Aubrun fan.
Must be easy....'Cause they are acting just like em. ROFL.

Hey Utah fans I really hope we play you now..you have made it just as easy to dislike you. I will base what I think about your football fans off of one thread...good laugh.
 
ColoradoTide said:
and the Utah fans have already started the trash talk:

http://www.utefans.net/list.php

Seems they are all pissed off over there.

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I am being very serious. It was posted below, and I made several comments, but that was before I started reading the whole thread! (Read this board with caution and a grain of salt. There is no respect at all!)

http://www.crimsontusks.com/about35165-0- asc-0.html

All I can say is, what a bunch of male reporductive anatomy parts!!! (Trying not to violate rules of conduct)

These guys really think that they should not even be on the same field as us! What a crock! Lets look at what 'Bama fans think makes them so much better than us:

2007: 6-5, with their bowl win 7-5 (http://www.nationalchamps.net/NCAA/colle ge_football_2007_schedules/alabama.htm)

2006: 6-6, with their bowl loss 6-7 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Alabam a_Crimson_Tide_football_team)

2005:9-2, with bowl win 10-2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2005_Alabam a_Crimson_Tide_football_team)

2004:6-5, with bowl loss 6-6 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Alabam a_Crimson_Tide_football_team)

SO lets see, bowl wise they are 2-2, so 50%. Besides 2005, their seasons were nothing to great, looks like a lot of "non elite" schools. 3 of the 4 years they barely had a .500, and this makes them elite how?

The 'Bama board just made me super pissed! How can a team's fan base that has, for the last 3 out of 4 years be mired in mediocrity call themselves "elite" and think UTAH has no chance? Looking at their last 4 years, I would ask them, why do they have a chance?

Since 12/31/03, Utah is 5-0 in bowls, including the '05 Fiesta Bowl!

Hey 'Bama fans! What makes you elite? your 2-2 bowl record (versus our 5-0) or your superior win ratio during the season?

I'll tell you whats a joke. Your team has 2 good seasons out of 5, and they think they are so above us! What a bunch of chuckle head @$$ hats!

Sorry all, rant over (but I am still fuming!).

DEAR Clete53,

First off it would be reproductive and we never calmed to be Elite, but since they are your words I will respond as best as I can. Since you like pick the times we did floundered in mediocrity and just pick the bad parts lets look a the whole picture shall we instead your bias one sided view that you have painted.

wikipedia

The Crimson Tide is one of the most storied and decorated programs in NCAA history, claiming 12 national championships. Alabama has won 25 conference championships, (four Southern Conference and 21 SEC championships) and has made an NCAA-record 55 postseason bowl appearances, which includes a record 31 victories Other NCAA records include eight perfect, undefeated and untied, seasons, 21 10-game win streaks

Let’s look at those UTHS!!

After a 28-year stretch of not playing in a bowl game, Utah football experienced resurgence in the early 1990s under head coach Ron McBride Urban Meyer era
The Ute’s have a 75-33 (.694) record since the beginning of the 2000 season. Along the way, Utah engineered an 18-game winning streak. During the streak, they produced the best season in school history in 2004, (congrats btw)

• All-Time:
• Bowl: 10-4
Now the picture is done. Please point out anything I’ve missed and you played

You played 2008 Schedule
#24 Michigan
Michigan Stadium • Ann Arbor, MI
September 6
6:00 pm UNLV
#23 Rice-Eccles Stadium • Salt Lake City, UT
W 42-21
September 13*
6:00 pm at USU
#22 Romney Stadium • Logan, UT (Battle of the Brothers)
W 58-10
September 20
2:00 pm at Air Force
#20Falcon Stadium • Colorado Springs, CO
W 30-23 36,952
September 27*†
6:00 pm Weber State
#17 Rice-Eccles Stadium • Salt Lake City, UT
W 37-21 45,117
October 2*
7:00 pm Oregon State
#15 Rice-Eccles Stadium • Salt Lake City, UT
W 31-28 45,599
October 11
at Wyoming
#13 War Memorial Stadium • Laramie, WY
mtn.
W 40-7 17,123
October 18
12:00 pm Colorado State
#13 Rice-Eccles Stadium • Salt Lake City, UT
W 49-16 44,793
November 1
7:30 pm at New Mexico
#9 University Stadium • Albuquerque, NM
mtn.
W 13-10 30,901
November 6
6:00 pm #11 TCU
#9 Rice-Eccles Stadium • Salt Lake City, UT
W 13-10 45,666
November 15
5:00 pm at SDSU
#7 Qualcomm Stadium • San Diego, CA
W 63-14 19,342
November 22
4:00 pm #14 BYU
#7 Rice-Eccles Stadium • Salt Lake City, UT ("The Holy War")
W 48-24 46,488

We played

August 30*7:12 pm vs. #9 Clemson
#24 Georgia Dome • Atlanta, GA (Chick-fil-A College Kickoff)
W 34–10 70,097
September 6* 6:07 pm Tulane
#13 Bryant-Denny Stadium • Tuscaloosa, AL
PPV
W 20–6 92,138
September 13* 6:07 pm Western Kentucky
#11Bryant-Denny Stadium • Tuscaloosa, AL W 41–7 92,138
September 20 at Arkansas
#9 Razorback Stadium • Fayetteville, AR
W 49–14 72,315
September 27 #3 Georgia
#8 Sanford Stadium • Athens, GA
ESPN
W 41–30 92,746
October 4 pm Kentucky
#2 Bryant-Denny Stadium • Tuscaloosa, AL CBS
W 17–14 92,138
October 182:35 pmOle Miss
#2 Bryant-Denny Stadium • Tuscaloosa, AL (Alabama–Ole Miss rivalry)
W 24–20 92,138
October 25 at Tennessee
#2 Neyland Stadium • Knoxville, TN (Third Saturday in October)
ESPN W 29–9 106,138
November 1*†Arkansas State
#2Bryant-Denny Stadium • Tuscaloosa, AL W 35–0 92,138
November 8at #15 LSU
#1Tiger Stadium • Baton Rouge, LA (Alabama–LSU rivalry)
W 27–21 OT 93,039
November 15 Mississippi State
#1Bryant-Denny Stadium • Tuscaloosa, AL (Alabama–Mississippi State rivalry)
ESPN W 32–7 92,138
November 29 Auburn
#1Bryant-Denny Stadium • Tuscaloosa, AL (Iron Bowl)
CBS W 36–0 92,138
December 6 3:00 pm vs. #2 Florida
#1 Georgia Dome • Atlanta, GA (SEC Championship Game)
CBS L 20–31 75,892

Can you see anything different between the two teams, I think you can if you look hard enough. Try taking off the bias fan face shield and see what you think.

Other than that good luck! Can’t wait to get on the field!
O btw you don’ t see us responding with a##hats huh, really classy. I tried to get on there site, but can't says I have to be validated. BTW they love you on that site TP :lol:
 
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