🏈 What do you guys make of this about Kirbs.

[18Champs]

I just came across this.

• UGA thoughts & what I've been told................... BAMA K 2018-07-30 13:35:03
• I've offered fairly detailed perspectives for over a year and not much can be added. For those claiming Kirby was an elite recruiter at UA please back that up with who he landed? Reuben Foster was his assignment but Saban openly threatened his job in front of fellow coach's when he balked at resuming his recruitment after AU fell apart. That was a Trooper Taylor assist to pay back his former employer. I give him credit for Rashaun Evans but even then it took the mom wanting him to get away from home. I can go through the Dakota Ball's & others but since he was perceived as a thorn to UGA who did he actually pull Richt wanted here in Georgia? Elite? Hah, not even close to Cristobal, Pruitt, Tosh, Lance and several others.
  As for UGA, you'd think being able to sell a strong academic institution, Top 5 rated college town, diverse enrollment, huge alumni base of contacts and to cap it off, Atlanta, they don't need too much extra's. However, even with that going for them when Rodney Garner & another SEC staffer among other rivals complain about how much $$ you're swinging on the trail then that should get your attention considering the source. Then former 5 star DL, Trent Thompson, called the UA complex exploring a transfer over 2 years ago upset that UGA didn't help his mom who had lost her job but was paying all the new guys left & right. Now do you get my drift?
  How about the new cars for a top RB & his mom after the kid told Saban at 10 am the morning of his announcement that he was pledging to UA? The job for DeAngelo Gibbs sister is just smart and we can talk about stuff like that even with UA but there is just too much as it relates to UGA.
  Hey, it will be tough to ever slow this down with them considering that program does legitimately have a lot to sell & isn't Ole Miss but please don't think it's just about Kirby's charisma or suddenly elite recruiting staffers like Dell McGee & James Coley who Miami fans would fall on the floor laughing considering he didn't produce at UM. They are now producing because of the ultimate closer & it's not in human form.
  As for being concerned that UGA will pass UA in overall talent while Nick Saban is at the helm well I'll say this how many position areas would you trade with UGA? What area of talent they have we'd want? Do you want their key position of DL? Do you think Tua & Co. will have problems scoring points? Even with a new DC in Tosh it's still a Nick Saban defense always Top 3 so what do you covet of UGA?
  Do you want Kirby when the game really matters?
  Something to think about & I can offer even more.....................

 

[OldPlayer]

Troll

 

[TUSKtimes]

Kirby has it all going right now. Like LSU, they can stay in state for their nucleus every year. Unlike LSU, they still get to operate in one of the weakest divisions in power 5 football. That is worth a lot of wins without being seriously threatened. This year they just don't play anyone outside the conference so what a great year to rebuild or reload.

 

[TerryP]

Troll

I know who wrote that. I disagree. He isn't of that nature.

 

[JoshB]

Can we please stop the revisionist history when it comes to Kirby? It's okay to dislike him now that he is a Georgia coach (along with all the negative recruiting nonsense), while also appreciating him for his INCREDIBLE job he did at Bama.

 

[pop2]

Can we please stop the revisionist history when it comes to Kirby? It's okay to dislike him now that he is a Georgia coach (along with all the negative recruiting nonsense), while also appreciating him for his INCREDIBLE job he did at Bama.

Remember.....one "Ah $hit" wipes away all the "Atta Boys" you have built up.

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

Nick and Bama will not Out Talent UGA in the coming years. Bama will have to play better than the Dawgs in order to win. If you go back and review all the players from the state of Georgia that Nick signed you will see a very clear problem if trouble makers from day one. Richt had more arrest in his years at UGA than any coach in the SEC not named Urban.

 

[Tidestalker]

Did I read that right that someone is bringing up a dude that wanted to transfer 2 years ago because Kirby, who may or may not have been on the job for a couple of months DIDN'T help his mom out? Guilty as charged! LMAO

Either way, Kirby is damn good at what he does. If he's cheating he will get caught... This day in age too much social media and too many loose lips to be an openly dirty program.

Always known him to be an ace recruiter and very relatable to kids. Georgia, even under Richt, gave us a run on the recruiting trail. Coming off a NC game appearance in the feeble East, I can see kids wanting to go there. Plus he has the most possible dirt on Saban and best negative recruiting tactics vs Bama. Seems like a lot of reasons for him to be very good at what he does. Until proven otherwise, I won't see him as a cheater... But will see a lot of people who spoke highly of him at Bama now speak poorly of him. Comes with the territory though.. Fans are not supposed to be objective... We are fanatics

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

I wish KingPin was around because he would know the deal on ole Kirby. With that said King never did tells us the deal on the fight at the Sugar Bowl between Kevin Steele and Kirby..............Boz swears it happened.

 

[TerryP]

@JoseyWalesTheOutlaw, You ever thought about Lane and Kirby working together.

 

[planomateo]

Is this a good look for UGA...asking for a friend.

https://www.saturdaydownsouth.com/g...-recruit-trenton-thompson-released-by-browns/

 

[OldPlayer]

Troll

I know who wrote that. I disagree. He isn't of that nature.

I don't know who wrote it, but anybody who questions whether or not Kirby is "the real deal" or was given too much credit for past successes (at Alabama and/or Georgia) doesn't seem to be a fan. Seems to be only focused on stirring up the shit pot.

 

[BamaFan334]

Did I read that right that someone is bringing up a dude that wanted to transfer 2 years ago because Kirby, who may or may not have been on the job for a couple of months DIDN'T help his mom out? Guilty as charged! LMAO

Either way, Kirby is damn good at what he does. If he's cheating he will get caught... This day in age too much social media and too many loose lips to be an openly dirty program.

Always known him to be an ace recruiter and very relatable to kids. Georgia, even under Richt, gave us a run on the recruiting trail. Coming off a NC game appearance in the feeble East, I can see kids wanting to go there. Plus he has the most possible dirt on Saban and best negative recruiting tactics vs Bama. Seems like a lot of reasons for him to be very good at what he does. Until proven otherwise, I won't see him as a cheater... But will see a lot of people who spoke highly of him at Bama now speak poorly of him. Comes with the territory though.. Fans are not supposed to be objective... We are fanatics

He's a cheater. Heard a few things first hand about what he's doing. There is a lot of illegal stuff going on everywhere, even on our campus, so to say he's not a cheater may be a little short sided. And I'm not talking about talking to a recruit during dead period type stuff.

 

[TerryP]

Troll

I know who wrote that. I disagree. He isn't of that nature.

I don't know who wrote it, but anybody who questions whether or not Kirby is "the real deal" or was given too much credit for past successes (at Alabama and/or Georgia) doesn't seem to be a fan. Seems to be only focused on stirring up the shit pot.

A bit on the vitriolic side? Yes, he was a bit on that side. Living in Atlanta would do that to a person. At the core of what he's saying, is there truth? Yes as well.

This isn't new stuff with Kirby. It's just stuff combined in a few paragraphs.

We've enjoyed some good years with Kirby, No doubt.

A point being made there had to do with a lot giving far too much credit to his time at Alabama in terms of classes signed--stars he evaluated and brought in. There are not as many as people have assumed with the vast majority of these defensive guys having other assistant coaches as their primary recruiter. Look back at the guys.

 

[18Champs]

Did I read that right that someone is bringing up a dude that wanted to transfer 2 years ago because Kirby, who may or may not have been on the job for a couple of months DIDN'T help his mom out? Guilty as charged! LMAO

You're taking a snippet, of one post, of many post on the subject and there's your point. It's like making a judgement on a few paragraphs within a book.

 

[rammerjammer]

I have no disdain for Kirby. This reads, to me, as though the writer is worried that Kirby may de-throne Saban and the Alabama Dynasty. Who better to do it than the number one pupil of the college football master? With the talent in the state of Georgia, Kirby is implementing the Saban motus operandi for building a dynasty. With the blue-print in place, it appears to be working. Saban is not staying at Alabama forever and this magnificent journey we, as Alabama fans have enjoyed, will come to an end. (as much as I hate it)

I think Kirby will win a MNC at Georgia. It may be a couple years, but I think he will do it. What I am interested in seeing, is how Kirby and UGA handle the success. The mental aspect of running the team and maintaining hunger for winning is what sets Saban apart from all the other coaches. From what I have read about Bear Bryant he was excellent at reading players and knowing how and which buttons needed to be pushed in order to motivate players to get the absolute most out of their talent. I think the psychological aspect of preparing the mind is what sets Saban apart from all the other Dynasties we have seen in recent years. Urban Meyer is probably the second best active coach in the FBS right now. Looking at his overall MNC totals would back that up. While he has won everywhere he has coached, He doesn't maintain the highest level of performance from his teams. He can build it, but maintaining it takes a different approach. Look at Bob Stoops, Steve Spurrier, Phat Phil Phulmer, and while it is still early, Dabo Swinney. Each of these guys have been uber-successful in coaching, but outside of Urban were only able to attain 1 national title. Each of these guys averaged about 18 years at an FBS school.

 

[Tidestalker]

Did I read that right that someone is bringing up a dude that wanted to transfer 2 years ago because Kirby, who may or may not have been on the job for a couple of months DIDN'T help his mom out? Guilty as charged! LMAO

Either way, Kirby is damn good at what he does. If he's cheating he will get caught... This day in age too much social media and too many loose lips to be an openly dirty program.

Always known him to be an ace recruiter and very relatable to kids. Georgia, even under Richt, gave us a run on the recruiting trail. Coming off a NC game appearance in the feeble East, I can see kids wanting to go there. Plus he has the most possible dirt on Saban and best negative recruiting tactics vs Bama. Seems like a lot of reasons for him to be very good at what he does. Until proven otherwise, I won't see him as a cheater... But will see a lot of people who spoke highly of him at Bama now speak poorly of him. Comes with the territory though.. Fans are not supposed to be objective... We are fanatics

He's a cheater. Heard a few things first hand about what he's doing. There is a lot of illegal stuff going on everywhere, even on our campus, so to say he's not a cheater may be a little short sided. And I'm not talking about talking to a recruit during dead period type stuff.

If you're going to call out Kirby being a cheater as fact based on what you "heard" first hand... Who's the cheater at UA then? Saban?

 

[Tidestalker]

Did I read that right that someone is bringing up a dude that wanted to transfer 2 years ago because Kirby, who may or may not have been on the job for a couple of months DIDN'T help his mom out? Guilty as charged! LMAO

You're taking a snippet, of one post, of many post on the subject and there's your point. It's like making a judgement on a few paragraphs within a book.

It means homeboy is reaching if he's using that as "evidence".... If you have any sense of humor (and objectivity) you can see how that's just flat comical.

 

[alabama mike]

I think:
1. He did an outstanding job at Bama.
2. If he is cheating at jawga, he will get caught eventually.
3. CNS is not worried about Kirby.

 

[BamaFan334]

Did I read that right that someone is bringing up a dude that wanted to transfer 2 years ago because Kirby, who may or may not have been on the job for a couple of months DIDN'T help his mom out? Guilty as charged! LMAO

Either way, Kirby is damn good at what he does. If he's cheating he will get caught... This day in age too much social media and too many loose lips to be an openly dirty program.

Always known him to be an ace recruiter and very relatable to kids. Georgia, even under Richt, gave us a run on the recruiting trail. Coming off a NC game appearance in the feeble East, I can see kids wanting to go there. Plus he has the most possible dirt on Saban and best negative recruiting tactics vs Bama. Seems like a lot of reasons for him to be very good at what he does. Until proven otherwise, I won't see him as a cheater... But will see a lot of people who spoke highly of him at Bama now speak poorly of him. Comes with the territory though.. Fans are not supposed to be objective... We are fanatics

He's a cheater. Heard a few things first hand about what he's doing. There is a lot of illegal stuff going on everywhere, even on our campus, so to say he's not a cheater may be a little short sided. And I'm not talking about talking to a recruit during dead period type stuff.

If you're going to call out Kirby being a cheater as fact based on what you "heard" first hand... Who's the cheater at UA? Saban?

Once again, they all cheat. They all know of things going on within their program. They aren't tone deaf. You don't think Richt knew about Gurley signing autographs for money or other players selling their jerseys? I'm not throwing our program under the bus on a public forum, but I have no issues saying every program cheats. The head coach himself isn't writing a personal check, but you go to the top with the blame, and trust me, they know what's happening. The movie Blue Chips is true.