🏈 UPDATE: Texas Longhorns, Oklahoma Sooners unanimously accept invitation to SEC

[TerryP]

For the record, I hope it doesn't happen. There's changes I'd like to see the SEC make, but that ain't it.

I do like the idea of seeing Texas fans complain about the location of the SEC offices.

 

[TerryP]

Andy Staples:

“So what is happening? Details remain sketchy, but we know that a media consultant hired by the Big 12 delivered a report in May to the league’s presidents that indicated television partners ESPN and Fox do not wish to negotiate a new deal with the Big 12 early. The league’s deals with ESPN and Fox run through the 2024-25 school year. Between now and then, the Big Ten will sign new deals and the SEC’s new deal with ESPN — replacing the game-of-the-week package CBS currently carries — will take effect. Undoubtedly, Texas and Oklahoma officials noted that ESPN moved very quickly to cinch up those SEC rights. The framework of that deal was in place in 2020 — during a pandemic — and the SEC’s CBS deal doesn’t expire until after the 2023 season. ESPN clearly views one league differently than the other. So why should two Tiffany brands remain where they aren’t respected the way balance-sheet peers such as Alabama, Georgia and LSU are?“

 

[rammerjammer]

2. Texas is prepared to say goodbye to the Longhorn Network.

I don't think this is a big deal. When this deal was drawn up, (going off memory) it was 30 million a year for 10 years. Since the birth of the SEC network, each member of the SEC has exceeded that by a long shot. No big deal.

I guess we'll be the South by Southwest Conference.

I think if this happens, we should rebirth the "Southern Conference".

 

[rick4bama]

I read that A&M left the Big 12 because of Texas? For me OK. and UT both need to do what F$U and Miami. Join a easy confer. so that they can win games!

 

[TerryP]

 

[rocknthefreeworld]

In fairness to Texas, that was over 70 years ago. I am sure today they could win more like half of them.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

I don't think this is a big deal. When this deal was drawn up, (going off memory) it was 30 million a year for 10 years. Since the birth of the SEC network, each member of the SEC has exceeded that by a long shot. No big deal.


I think if this happens, we should rebirth the "Southern Conference".

They've gone on without us, celebrating their 100th anniversary this year.

 

[PurlJam]

Would be great as far as watching good football but there is a part of me that despises the fact that Clemson and OSU play in such weak conferences and basically can be penciled in for the playoffs each year.

I'm o.k. with that. They can have those illusions of grandeur every season and get in the playoffs to take that annual skull thumping year in and year out. They would be the early 90's Buffalo Bills of college football.

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

Well Nick and Terry will finally get to spend some time in that house they bought in Texas....

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Orangebloods publisher Geoff Ketchum and I have checked in with multiple sources on Wednesday and asked about Texas’ desire to leave the Big 12 and join the SEC. Texas and Oklahoma are ready to make that move. A high-level university official informed Orangebloods the expectation is that Texas and Oklahoma would inform the Big 12 as early as next week that both schools intend to decline on extending the existing set of media rights. The contract expires in 2025. "That should start the dominos," the source told Orangebloods. That major piece of news Orangebloods learned coincides with an earlier report on Wednesday. Houston Chronicle’s Brent Zwerneman was the first to report Texas and Oklahoma reached out to the SEC about joining that conference. Zwerneman also said, “An announcement could come within a couple of weeks concerning the potential addition of UT and OU to the league, the person said, which would give the SEC 16 schools and make it the first national super-conference.” In addition, Orangebloods was told a move to the SEC would signal the end of the LHN and that the school has come to terms with this. Another source told me he would not be surprised if LHN simply folded into the SEC Network (both are owned by ESPN).


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First reason and I think this is the biggest when the Big 12 went to negotiate their tv rights a few months ago it went no where and stalled. Reasons being the acc already locked up by espn and the sec by espn . CBS did not want to pay anything for the sec anymore so they are a non factor . Fox was the big 12 50-50 partner with espn abc. With the sec and acc having most of not all of the college football big games that really didn’t leave any slots for the big 12 to be on espn. Fox knew this and basically low balled the Big 12.

Oklahoma brass hemmed and hawed for threeyears of getting 11 am prime time kickoffs with Fox. The straw that broke the camels back was when we asked for a time slot change for the current OU Nebraska 100 year anniversary of the game of the century and they declined it. Our commissioner said we all signed the same tv contracts. Basically as good as the big 12 was it was never going to be more than the 3rd best conference because of lack of big stadiums and 1-3 showdowns each year when Iowa state was great !

This isn’t about money as it’s it about future revenue imo. OU and Texas tier three right which were like 9 mil for OU and Texas 20 are not counted into our total revenue figures which at one time both schools were making more than sec members with all three tier counted. Once the sec network started that really set the two leagues apart and when I he bug 12 tried they were least late to the game. Ran out of ideas. The tornado boy other idea was raiding the arizona schools and they have such good ties to the pac-12 that wasn’t going to happen .

 

[252BAMA]

I read that A&M left the Big 12 because of Texas? For me OK. and UT both need to do what F$U and Miami. Join a easy confer. so that they can win games!

It's ALL about the money.$$$$$$$$

Bobby Bowden was pleased it worked out like it did, but he had nothing to do with FSU's decision to join the ACC rather than the SEC. That decision was made because the payout would be $2M more per year from the ACC. Basketball money put football money to shame back then and the ACC had the greater basketball money.

That information was given to me in a personal conversation with Hootie Ingram at a Tide Pride gathering. Bama AD at the time and former FSU AD.

 

[JoshB]

If this were to happen I think it would have huge affects on college football and we would probably see a ton of realignment going on.

 

[BamaFan334]

"This isn’t about money as it’s it about future revenue imo"

Am I missing something? Is this not the exact same thing?

 

[JoshB]

"This isn’t about money as it’s it about future revenue imo"

Am I missing something? Is this not the exact same thing?

Weirdo message board "insiders" lol

 

[TerryP]

Bobby Bowden was pleased it worked out like it did, but he had nothing to do with FSU's decision to join the ACC rather than the SEC. That decision was made because the payout would be $2M more per year from the ACC. Basketball money put football money to shame back then and the ACC had the greater basketball money.

When he was on with Paul about five years ago he said he felt the SEC would be too tough a road to a national title and mentioned that as one of the reasons they chose the ACC. Distance/travel was mentioned as well. Recruiting came up for a few minutes.

I remember when the SEC invited FSU back in 1990: the ACC was already in play. As I recall the first vote in the ACC turned FSU down, the SEC backed away at that point leaving the 'Noles program on an island, so to speak. The second vote from the ACC later that day approved FSU's membership.

Let's not forget that FSU had been trying to get into the SEC for several decades before the expansion talk started in 1990.

 

[252BAMA]

When he was on with Paul about five years ago he said he felt the SEC would be too tough a road to a national title and mentioned that as one of the reasons they chose the ACC. Distance/travel was mentioned as well. Recruiting came up for a few minutes.

I remember when the SEC invited FSU back in 1990: the ACC was already in play. As I recall the first vote in the ACC turned FSU down, the SEC backed away at that point leaving the 'Noles program on an island, so to speak. The second vote from the ACC later that day approved FSU's membership.

Let's not forget that FSU had been trying to get into the SEC for several decades before the expansion talk started in 1990.

I believe Hootie was the FSU AD when the initial negotiations were going on with the ACC. Which is why I believe what he told me. Of course, Bobby would have had some input with Hootie.

 

[RTB X Bot]

 

[TerryP]

I believe Hootie was the FSU AD when the initial negotiations were going on with the ACC. Which is why I believe what he told me. Of course, Bobby would have had some input with Hootie.

He'd have been involved in the initial talks with the SEC as well, I'd suspect. (Hell, like I said, this had been going for decades.)The "formal invite" I was talking about was in 1990. Hootie left FSU in 1989 and started his role in Tuscaloosa the same year.

 

[TerryP]

And the politicians begin to weigh in:

 

[252BAMA]

When has the Texas legislature EVER voted against ANYTHING UT wanted to do? If they want their season tickets they had better get on board.

Obvious he is not a UT guy.
Education: Baylor University, Plano Senior High School, SMU Dedman School of Law

 

[ElephantStomp]

By the looks of it, it was moving quickly and silently until someone got loose lips. Would imagine, assuming the SEC is indeed making these plans, that Sankey is pissed. For the record, I hope it doesn't happen. There's changes I'd like to see the SEC make, but that ain't it. Unfortunately, I don't get a vote though. And selfishly, I'll admit my allegiance is solely with The University, not the conference.

I’m different in that I hope it happens, only because I’d love to see the rivalries that would form. We’re the same in that my allegiance is purely with The University and I couldn’t care less about the conference