📡 UPDATE: SEC decides to remain at 8 league games in 2024 when Oklahoma & Texas join league, SEC's Greg Sankey says

[TerryP]

Msu only has 4 losing seasons since 2004
And 1 10+ win
Much like AUs record

So au has had a COUPLE better seasons

But not all that muuch. Say as compared to lsu
They are mid level


Mid level teams

• "Mid level teams," with national titles found at which school?
• "AU has had a couple of better seasons"... while in the same period has EIGHT times the number of SEC titles.
• A couple of better seasons sees Auburn sitting at #18 in all time wins. State would have to win their next 38 games in a row to break into the top 100.

The fundamental difference between how we're looking at this is as clear as day. It's the same problem the advocates for the three have: a limited scope/view.

In '92, divisions were decided by have's and have not's. It wasn't based on the number of wins from '82-'91, it was based on the program and its history.

With the three team proposal the view is limited to the past 10 years. Is that an accurate assessment of Tennessee football, its program, and its future? Is the last ten years a good measurement of Florida and their potential?

No. Those assessments are as valid as judging Alabama from '97 through '06.

In spite of all the changes in football and the SEC there's one constant over the last 50 years. Some schools have the ability, and have shown they can, win a national title. Some schools have not; and won't.

State ain't.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

• "Mid level teams," with national titles found at which school?
• "AU has had a couple of better seasons"... while in the same period has EIGHT times the number of SEC titles.
• A couple of better seasons sees Auburn sitting at #18 in all time wins. State would have to win their next 38 games in a row to break into the top 100.

The fundamental difference between how we're looking at this is as clear as day. It's the same problem the advocates for the three have: a limited scope/view.

In '92, divisions were decided by have's and have not's. It wasn't based on the number of wins from '82-'91, it was based on the program and its history.

With the three team proposal the view is limited to the past 10 years. Is that an accurate assessment of Tennessee football, its program, and its future? Is the last ten years a good measurement of Florida and their potential?

No. Those assessments are as valid as judging Alabama from '97 through '06.

In spite of all the changes in football and the SEC there's one constant over the last 50 years. Some schools have the ability, and have shown they can, win a national title. Some schools have not; and won't.

State ain't.

Didnt base it on titles...just over last 20....
Maybe tenn will change...maybe AU..l
AU has had a gew seasons that were outstanding....2010...a few just luck...2013
Msu....not so much...

Still put both in mids of sec..AU upper mids...msu..lower mids
All i am giving AU

 

[OldPlayer]

A little side note I find interesting ...

I'm sure you've seen people talk about how the ninth game should impact the SEC's agreement with ESPN: "more money, " they say.

Have you considered that ninth game would result in ESPN losing inventory?

16 teams playing OOC opponents / 16 games to broadcast.
16 teams in conference play / 8 games to broadcast.

Is there something in the contract that says they have to broadcast all 16 OOC games? When all teams are playing OOC games, does ESPN have the rights to broadcast all of those games (Alabama vs Ohio State/Wisconsin/West Virginia/Oklahoma State) when the SEC team is away?

 

[TerryP]

Is there something in the contract that says they have to broadcast all 16 OOC games? When all teams are playing OOC games, does ESPN have the rights to broadcast all of those games (Alabama vs Ohio State/Wisconsin/West Virginia/Oklahoma State) when the SEC team is away?

There's nothing technically that says they have to broadcast all 16 games (aside from the mighty dollar.) We'd have to go back years to find a game that hasn't been televised in one form or another: OTA, linear cable, or something like SECN+ / ESPN+.

In the cases you've mentioned, after 2023, no. I'm not aware ESPN has the rights to any B1G content. Now, WVU and OSU? May be because they (ESPN) have contracts with the Big 12.

The home and home schedules with WVU? Fox may try to grab the game but their early game is going to be B1G. Fox hasn't traditionally been an "afternoon game place to be," though their night broadcasts has drawn some eyes. I'm guessing it'll all come down to what games are available and how the pecking order for choices is set at that point.

 

[TerryP]

Still put both in mids of sec..AU upper mids...msu..lower mids

You've called MSU a cupcake. Now they're lower mids. Vandy and MSU are on the same level you've asserted, then MSU is Auburnesque.

Damn, old man. Your definitions change as often as Webster's adds new words.

(The word "mid" is something Tony Mitchell could tell you about. Auburn? It's a K2 school. About a dozen former players will testify to that.)

 

[50+yeartidefan]

You've called MSU a cupcake. Now they're lower mids. Vandy and MSU are on the same level you've asserted, then MSU is Auburnesque.

Damn, old man. Your definitions change as often as Webster's adds new words.

(The word "mid" is something Tony Mitchell could tell you about. Auburn? It's a K2 school. About a dozen former players will testify to that.)

Thats right...i have right to change my mine..."the passage of time in life clause "

I was just having my "i hate AU moment

AU hasn't had back to back 10 win seasons since 80s...
2010 season bought and paid for
Luckiest bunch in sec...when talent fails
Even missouri and USCe has been to sec game...has has msu
And Mitchell can't tell me anything...and i dont know what K2 school means...

So there...it was a stretch to put msu in middle class...i agree..l

 

[TerryP]

And Mitchell can't tell me anything...and i dont know what K2 school means...

Oh, I know.

Although ... some of your posts may lead others to believe you know K2 intimately.

Thats right...i have right to change my mine..."the passage of time in life clause "

...less than a month.

Funny thing is ... while we're revolving around who Alabama plays, as much or more of the point should be who other teams do not have to play.

 

[TerryP]

Adding a little note/question here ...

How could you not like the 1-7 set up with these permanent opponents? The only problem I have is the team I despise the most, Tennessee, looks to have the easiest with UofSC.

We'd see the Egg Bowl every year.
The RRR with OU and UTx.
UGA and UF.
LSU and A&M
Mizzou taking on Arkansas.
And what about Vandy? Kentucky.

 

[SoCalPatrick]

SEC to play eight conference games but eliminate divisions for 2024 season once Texas, Oklahoma join

The SEC will reevaluate its college football scheduling format for the 2025 season and beyond at a later date

www.cbssports.com

"We have been engaged in planning for the entry of Oklahoma and Texas into the SEC since the summer of 2021, but the change of the membership date from 2025 to 2024 creates scheduling complexities that can better be managed with a one-year schedule," said SEC commissioner Greg Sankey in a statement.

"Creating a one-year schedule will provide a longer on-ramp to manage football scheduling around existing nonconference commitments of our members," he continued. "It will also provide additional time to understand the impact of an expanded College Football Playoff and engage with our media partners as we determine the appropriate long-term plan for SEC football scheduling.

"During this time of change, our fans will continue to enjoy traditional rivalries and begin to see new matchups presented by the addition of two historically successful football programs to the SEC."

 

[50+yeartidefan]

Adding a little note/question here ...

How could you not like the 1-7 set up with these permanent opponents? The only problem I have is the team I despise the most, Tennessee, looks to have the easiest with UofSC.

We'd see the Egg Bowl every year.
The RRR with OU and UTx.
UGA and UF.
LSU and A&M
Mizzou taking on Arkansas.
And what about Vandy? Kentucky.

Hopefully USCe is on the rise.
I cant see it not being instate though. Vandy

 

[50+yeartidefan]

Oh, I know.

Although ... some of your posts may lead others to believe you know K2 intimately.


...less than a month.

Funny thing is ... while we're revolving around who Alabama plays, as much or more of the point should be who other teams do not have to play.

I think that was a lot of my point

But its off til another year

And to those others you referenced " i do not know what K2means". If there was any ?????

 

[TerryP]

I'm still trying to wrap my mind around this one.

"It's going to be fair and balanced" but we're going to select opponents "randomly?" How do those two coexist?

The eight games will be randomly assigned based on "fairness and balanced," according to commissioner Greg Sankey, who added that consideration will be given to traditional rivalries, such as Alabama vs. Auburn and Florida vs. Georgia.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

I'm still trying to wrap my mind around this one.

"It's going to be fair and balanced" but we're going to select opponents "randomly?" How do those two coexist?

Lawyer double talk. Congress full of such