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[TerryP]

Are you sitting there watching every play of the Chattanooga, Austin Peay, Middle Tennessee, and Mercer game?

What do these teams have to do with the SEC schedule and Bama's three permanent opponents?

Are you watching more of the Alabama/Auburn, Alabama/Tennessee, Alabama/LSU, Alabama/Texas A&M game more than the Alabama/Mercer, Alabama/Chattanooga games?

What do these games have to do with the SEC schedule and Bama's three permanent opponents?

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All of this bullshit and we're still talking about one thing:

You are okay with Alabama not having an even playing field within SEC competition.

 

[TerryP]

I'd be interested to see the records of the proposal you're not in favor of and get the last twenty years of records for each team and then see which pod shows the most competitive teams

Look at championships to start. All three of Bama's have them.

Now do the rest of the SEC.

 

[TerryP]

I'd be interested to see the records of the proposal you're not in favor of and get the last twenty years of records for each team and then see which pod shows the most competitive teams.

Let's do all time wins.

Bama, followed by Georgia. Then we have Tennessee, LSU and Auburn.

 

[BamaFan334]

What do these teams have to do with the SEC schedule and Bama's three permanent opponents?

What do these games have to do with the SEC schedule and Bama's three permanent opponents?

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All of this bullshit and we're still talking about one thing:

You are okay with Alabama not having an even playing field within SEC competition.

Because you're taking one of those shitty games away and putting a conference game in it's place. Get you mind off the three permanent opponents and have a general discussion about adding a better game over a shitty game. That's the dang point I'm making. You're stuck in first gear on this one and you're not even considering the conversation, only your point.

I'm ok with us playing a ninth SEC game. You're the one that has the issue because you're stuck on the three game model and teams thrown around in a news article, nothing directly from the SEC offices or coaches. All conjecture.

 

[BamaFan334]

Let's do all time wins.

Bama, followed by Georgia. Then we have Tennessee, LSU and Auburn.

Because some schools have been playing football longer? Yeah, that makes sense.

 

[BamaFan334]

Look at championships to start. All three of Bama's have them.

Now do the rest of the SEC.

Auburn has one in how long? You're acting like they are a national power. Take their record into consideration. Hence why I said take a twenty year sample. Florida State also has one, and look at where their program is/was. LSU the exact same. They have two, but look at how they fell off after both and fired both coaches. Tennessee has one as well, but we also had a fifteen year winning streak against them. I am not worried one bit if we did pull Tennessee, LSU, and Auburn. We're already playing them every year anyways, and that ain't going nowhere most likely.

 

[TerryP]

Because some schools have been playing football longer? Yeah, that makes sense.

You might want to stop, think, and at least look up something before shooting off the hip. Shit, man.

Nine of the 14 SEC schools started football in 1902: 13 of the 14 all started within a four year span ('01-'04.)

 

[TerryP]

Auburn has one in how long? You're acting like they are a national power. Take their record into consideration. Hence why I said take a twenty year sample. Florida State also has one, and look at where their program is/was. LSU the exact same. They have two, but look at how they fell off after both and fired both coaches. Tennessee has one as well, but we also had a fifteen year winning streak against them. I am not worried one bit if we did pull Tennessee, LSU, and Auburn. We're already playing them every year anyways, and that ain't going nowhere most likely.

You've fallen off the damn rocker, son.

In '98 Tennessee won the national title. Since then we've seen five other teams for a total of six.

Alabama has three. Permanently.

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IF you didn't know this, the three teams were chosen based on their record the last ten years.

Was 1997 to 2006 a fair representation of Alabama football? 2013 to 2023 isn't; far from it in fact.

Which gives a better description of Florida football? 2013-'22 or 2003 to '12? There's four titles in that last stretch, but I don't see it as a fair representation of Florida football. Neither is '13-'22.

 

[BamaFan334]

You've fallen off the damn rocker, son.

In '98 Tennessee won the national title. Since then we've seen five other teams for a total of six.

Alabama has three. Permanently.

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IF you didn't know this, the three teams were chosen based on their record the last ten years.

Was 1997 to 2006 a fair representation of Alabama football? 2013 to 2023 isn't; far from it in fact.

Which gives a better description of Florida football? 2013-'22 or 2003 to '12? There's four titles in that last stretch, but I don't see it as a fair representation of Florida football. Neither is '13-'22.

I know they did, and that is my entire point. A lot of teams have won a National Championship, but it's not indicative of where their program currently is. Two years ago you're talking shit about Tennessee and not worried about them at all. Now all of a sudden you're concerned about us getting the shaft because they may be a permanent opponent and they won a Natty back in '98, and nothing in between. Auburn won a Natty thirteen years ago, but are nowhere close to being a Top 15-20 team right now. Yet you're worried about them being a permanent opponent. LSU is the more steady of the three, but a team even you have not been impressed with over the years, so really really uncertain of why they are concerning you as a permanent opponent. You talk about no home field Saturday night voodoo and how Alabama has proven that wrong, so unsure of why they bother you and you feel the odds are against us with these opponents The fact still stands we play these guys every year as it is anyways. So nothing changes other than we get an extra opponent that is most likely a very small threat to us when you stack up the numbers.

 

[BamaFan334]

You might want to stop, think, and at least look up something before shooting off the hip. Shit, man.

Nine of the 14 SEC schools started football in 1902: 13 of the 14 all started within a four year span ('01-'04.)

Yeah, you're right, pretty close there. I still think it's not a fair representation of what we're talking about here considering so much has changed. A 20, 25, 30 years representation of what football is now is more indicative to this discussion. Otherwise none of us would want Princeton or Yale on our schedule.

 

[OldPlayer]

Oregon State is on the future Ole Miss schedule. Cal is at Auburn next season and has Florida in a few years. Kansas is playing Missouri. Rutgers is the only team you've listed that doesn't cross the path of a SEC team.

I still don't get the point, though. What do any of these teams you've listed have to do with the SEC schedule? I see teams from the SEC fulfilling their P5 requirements.

P5 team does not mean a good team. How many of these are home-and-homes? If not, it’s just a payday for the visitor.

 

[Rsedge72]

Are you sitting there watching every play of the Chattanooga, Austin Peay, Middle Tennessee, and Mercer game? Are you watching more of the Alabama/Auburn, Alabama/Tennessee, Alabama/LSU, Alabama/Texas A&M game more than the Alabama/Mercer, Alabama/Chattanooga games? I can tell you attendance wise which teams people prefer to come watch and see and who they pay more to come see. That is enough right there to want us to play a tougher schedule. Your interest in the games is what pays for these kid's education and ability to do this beyond Alabama. If no one watches, this is a much different story with conference payouts and revenue stemming from college football. People want to see marquee games and players want to play in marquee games. Five star recruits come to Alabama to play for Saban and to play with the best and against the best. Otherwise they would all stay closer to home and play for their respective state school. Without the SEC payouts we can't afford Saban and he goes elsewhere. That all comes from fan interest. All those NFL dollars our players make? All that comes from fan interest paying the bills to keep our coaches on the sidelines, keep them medically prepared, physically prepared, and academically eligible. Players want to play in the SEC because they want to play against the best. They aren't coming here to play those D-II schools. Let's not even get into the pay outs we give those teams to come here. One less of those games and the world is crumbling for so many.

As far as injuries, yes, plenty of guys get beat up and injured in those worthless and pointless games against inferior competition. So I am paying attention. Go to any of those game threads on here and you'll see a collective agreement amongst everyone we hate those games due to injury possibilities and what it costs us.

I watch them all, when I can. Like I said a good game is when BAMA wins by 60 or more. I’m an Alabama fan not a fan of a “close hard fought”, granted that does get more headlines for people to read about. On that note I have reconsidered some of what I’m saying. Now that the players are getting actual cash benefits, I don’t have as much of an issue with people wanting tougher games. I really didn’t consider this before.

 

[BamaFan334]

I watch them all, when I can. Like I said a good game is when BAMA wins by 60 or more. I’m an Alabama fan not a fan of a “close hard fought”, granted that does get more headlines for people to read about. On that note I have reconsidered some of what I’m saying. Now that the players are getting actual cash benefits, I don’t have as much of an issue with people wanting tougher games. I really didn’t consider this before.

I have to admit I'm a fan of college football, although my interest is decreasing. I love a good football game, especially since my son is nine years old and is getting into it big time. It's a dream come true for me really. But it creates a lot of conversation between us is why I am open to more than just our Crimson Tide. You'll see me say I pulled for Georgia in the Playoff because I want the SEC to show everyone else why we believe Alabama is the best team in the best conference in the best country. You won't catch me dead in Georgia stuff, anymore, or posting online about them outside of rolltidebama, but I like to see our conference string and hope it remains strong for those benefot of the doubt decisions. Going forward I doubt the Big 12 and Big 10 get in two teams over the SEC.

I also have to admit I'm a glutten for punishment when it comes to competition. Even if I lose and not even close I still choose the difficult path. Golf as a prime example with my "go for it" attitude, ha ha.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

P5 team does not mean a good team. How many of these are home-and-homes? If not, it’s just a payday for the visitor.

@TerryP @BamaFan334
Right...as No more than SEC guarentees "good team"

If bama drew....lsu/au/tn

Just wondering...for sake of wondering....

If any one else would play 3 teams with as many losing records including 50/50 seasons..over las 20 years
Tenn...7 since 2004.... 10+win seasons..4
Au....4 since 2004......10+ winseasons....5
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Lsu.....2 since 2004 ......10+ win seasons...11( outta 20)

In contrast to bama....2 since 2004....10+ win seasons 17

One looking at that...how could you come up with Au/lsu/tn being unfair for bama
And i dont see any consecutive 10+ win seasons for AU...maybe 1 for tn

Actuall Au may object if they had bama/uga/??? USCe???
Or Tx AnM...if it was tex/ok/lsu

 

[Rsedge72]

I have to admit I'm a fan of college football, although my interest is decreasing. I love a good football game, especially since my son is nine years old and is getting into it big time. It's a dream come true for me really. But it creates a lot of conversation between us is why I am open to more than just our Crimson Tide. You'll see me say I pulled for Georgia in the Playoff because I want the SEC to show everyone else why we believe Alabama is the best team in the best conference in the best country. You won't catch me dead in Georgia stuff, anymore, or posting online about them outside of rolltidebama, but I like to see our conference string and hope it remains strong for those benefot of the doubt decisions. Going forward I doubt the Big 12 and Big 10 get in two teams over the SEC.

I also have to admit I'm a glutten for punishment when it comes to competition. Even if I lose and not even close I still choose the difficult path. Golf as a prime example with my "go for it" attitude, ha ha.

I will also readily admit when my kids where little the “big games” got him going!!!
So I do understand that aspect.

 

[UAgrad93]

@BamaFan334 Casey, my proposal, which no one in the SEC offices know or even give a shit about, to me would offer what everyone wants. A 9th conference game. Their proposal of the 3+6 model and how they come about it would be unfair to BAMA. Miss State is our longest running SEC game, why should it get scrapped? Tennessee would get Vandy as one of their permanent games I believe. Is that fair for any of the others? I believe the 9 game gets shelved for another year and then we see another run made. I still think a 1+ 8 would work better.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

@BamaFan334 Casey, my proposal, which no one in the SEC offices know or even give a shit about, to me would offer what everyone wants. A 9th conference game. Their proposal of the 3+6 model and how they come about it would be unfair to BAMA. Miss State is our longest running SEC game, why should it get scrapped? Tennessee would get Vandy as one of their permanent games I believe. Is that fair for any of the others? I believe the 9 game gets shelved for another year and then we see another run made. I still think a 1+ 8 would work better.

Miss state and Au arent that far off
Some
But my post above shows ... almost... 1. Outta 20 years either AU/lsu/tn will have a break even or losing season based on past 20 years

And AU hasnt had back to back 10 win seasons since the 80s

Look at AU getting thepooch. Bama/UGA//USCe?

 

[UAgrad93]

Miss state and Au arent that far off
Some
But my post above shows ... almost... 1. Outta 20 years either AU/lsu/tn will have a break even or losing season based on past 20 years

And AU hasnt had back to back 10 win seasons since the 80s

Look at AU getting thepooch. Bama/UGA//USCe?

Barn gets 2 tough ones and USCe, which really outside of Spurrier’s earlier years there, has been a shade or two over .500. In the last 12 years, the Barn has won one Natty and played for another. Malzahn was at least consistent for 8-9 wins. USCe, not so much.

 

[BamaFan334]

@BamaFan334 Casey, my proposal, which no one in the SEC offices know or even give a shit about, to me would offer what everyone wants. A 9th conference game. Their proposal of the 3+6 model and how they come about it would be unfair to BAMA. Miss State is our longest running SEC game, why should it get scrapped? Tennessee would get Vandy as one of their permanent games I believe. Is that fair for any of the others? I believe the 9 game gets shelved for another year and then we see another run made. I still think a 1+ 8 would work better.

Write them a letter at the SEC offices and see if they run with it, ha ha.

Someone has to play Vanderbilt. To even attempt to say it could ever be equally split is impossible. It's cyclical. At one point you'd rather play Tennessee over Vanderbilt. You would have rather have played Florida over South Carolina. You would have rather played Georgia over Missouri. You wpuld have rather played Ole Miss over Mississippi State for the fear of losing due to the ywar they were having.

Saban is completely on board with nine games. The only reason he changed his mind this past year was because we finally had more out of conference teams willing to schedule us. Years before no on wanted any so we were stuck and he was fine playing the nine conference games and every four year player could play every team. So what you and I want is not very far off from what Saban wants.

Draft it up and send it. I'll cover the stamps.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

Barn gets 2 tough ones and USCe, which really outside of Spurrier’s earlier years there, has been a shade or two over .500. In the last 12 years, the Barn has won one Natty and played for another. Malzahn was at least consistent for 8-9 wins. USCe, not so much.

No AU gets the top 2 teams in conference. Period

I see very little difference between msu n AU.
Both have a splash. Then fade into oblivion

No idea why anyone is afeerd of lsu/au/tn