🏈 The Jalen saga continues..

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

I am happy with whatever Nick and Jalen (family) decide is the best path forward. Normally I wouldn't have thought Nick would have gone along with the 4 game deal(if true) but it might be the best plan for both the team and #2. Mack needs to play and play with the 1's instead of the 2's if you're going to see what he really has to offer. Jalen can practice everyday just as he has knowing he could be the Man if needed and that was what AJ did in 2009. We need some injury luck to pull this off.

 

[ColAngus]

Take this FWIW. I have not been to a game this year and most likely will not be able to make one. A friend, a colleague of mine, who has season tix told me that she could feel the air being let out of the stadium when Jalen came into the game. She soon after he came in about a third of the crowd left, like they knew not a lot more offense was going to be put on display.

I wasn't there; I can't verify that. CBS didn't focus on it...So like I said, take it FWIW.

(Regardless of the QB situation, I would stay for the game because I want to see 3's get in the game; they are the future of the team.)

Jalen got a very nice ovation when he came into the game. And there's absolutely no way a third of the crowd left.

 

[UAgrad93]

Take this FWIW. I have not been to a game this year and most likely will not be able to make one. A friend, a colleague of mine, who has season tix told me that she could feel the air being let out of the stadium when Jalen came into the game. She soon after he came in about a third of the crowd left, like they knew not a lot more offense was going to be put on display.

I wasn't there; I can't verify that. CBS didn't focus on it...So like I said, take it FWIW.

(Regardless of the QB situation, I would stay for the game because I want to see 3's get in the game; they are the future of the team.)

Only reason any of the crowd left was because they were roasting by late 3rd quarter and the game was in hand. The rain shower about an hour before kick cooled things off but then by mid 1st quarter, the sun was out and it was back to low 90’s and humid as 3 Hells. It was like being in a broiler!!

 

[bama alum]

Take this FWIW. I have not been to a game this year and most likely will not be able to make one. A friend, a colleague of mine, who has season tix told me that she could feel the air being let out of the stadium when Jalen came into the game. She soon after he came in about a third of the crowd left, like they knew not a lot more offense was going to be put on display.

I wasn't there; I can't verify that. CBS didn't focus on it...So like I said, take it FWIW.

(Regardless of the QB situation, I would stay for the game because I want to see 3's get in the game; they are the future of the team.)

Only reason any of the crowd left was because they were roasting by late 3rd quarter and the game was in hand. The rain shower about an hour before kick cooled things off but then by mid 1st quarter, the sun was out and it was back to low 90’s and humid as 3 Hells. It was like being in a broiler!!

I have no doubt. My wife and I went to the HC game last year. My legs were bright red when we left.

 

[252BAMA]

Through 4 games.

Jalen Hurts: 4 Pass TDs, 1 Interception
Jarrett Stidham: 3 Pass TDs, 2 Interceptions

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

Through 4 games.

Jalen Hurts: 4 Pass TDs, 1 Interception
Jarrett Stidham: 3 Pass TDs, 2 Interceptions

Chip Lindsey will back at Spain Park before long.....I can hear their band practicing from my home....

 

[It Takes Eleven]

Take this FWIW. I have not been to a game this year and most likely will not be able to make one. A friend, a colleague of mine, who has season tix told me that she could feel the air being let out of the stadium when Jalen came into the game. She soon after he came in about a third of the crowd left, like they knew not a lot more offense was going to be put on display.

I wasn't there; I can't verify that. CBS didn't focus on it...So like I said, take it FWIW.

(Regardless of the QB situation, I would stay for the game because I want to see 3's get in the game; they are the future of the team.)

Jalen got a very nice ovation when he came into the game. And there's absolutely no way a third of the crowd left.

Yes he did, it was very loud, to the point I thought it was going to interfere with the first down play.

 

[BamaFan334]

Take this FWIW. I have not been to a game this year and most likely will not be able to make one. A friend, a colleague of mine, who has season tix told me that she could feel the air being let out of the stadium when Jalen came into the game. She soon after he came in about a third of the crowd left, like they knew not a lot more offense was going to be put on display.

I wasn't there; I can't verify that. CBS didn't focus on it...So like I said, take it FWIW.

(Regardless of the QB situation, I would stay for the game because I want to see 3's get in the game; they are the future of the team.)

Only reason any of the crowd left was because they were roasting by late 3rd quarter and the game was in hand. The rain shower about an hour before kick cooled things off but then by mid 1st quarter, the sun was out and it was back to low 90’s and humid as 3 Hells. It was like being in a broiler!!

Got that right. Nothing is worse than getting soaken wet and then burning up like that with the humidity and temperatures in the mid-90's as soon as the rain stopped. Reminded me of Fall Football Camp at 7AM with the dew and the sun coming up, maybe even worse with the way it heated up so quick. My loafers were soaken wet and never dried out till I got back to Madison that night.

This was my first game of the year, so I now know what is being said now about the damn gates and metal detectors, as it took forever and my son and I got soaked waiting in a long ass jumbled line between gates 35-37. It was bullshit and not well thought out.

 

[TerryP]

. It was bullshit and not well thought out.

How does a company go about "thinking out" employees not showing up for work? It's my understanding there were a lot of the detectors unmanned due to staffing issues.

 

[BamaFan334]

. It was bullshit and not well thought out.

How does a company go about "thinking out" employees not showing up for work? It's my understanding there were a lot of the detectors unmanned due to staffing issues.

Well, just like any other business that may run short on employees. You step in and do the work yourself and you have staffing agencies you can call. Doesn't sound that difficult for a business like Alabama that has contingencies for everything and that should be use to dealing with issues like so. And a third party should be vetted enough to make sure they can handle such jobs. You get seven/eight home games a year to do your job, do it right and have a backup plan. Yes, there were just say ten detectors, and I think only four were manned.

 

[TerryP]

@BamaFan334, It's just not that simple.

What staffing agency are you going to call on a Saturday, with an hour or so notice, telling them we need guys to maintain metal detectors? A temp agency isn't going to have people trained for the job as simple as it may seem. You're also assuming the company that handles the detectors are based out of Tuscaloosa which brings up another logistics issue.

 

[UAgrad93]

. It was bullshit and not well thought out.

How does a company go about "thinking out" employees not showing up for work? It's my understanding there were a lot of the detectors unmanned due to staffing issues.

They had multiple "no shows". I always go in Gate 5 and for the first game, there was at least 7-8 metal detectors. Saturday, due to the "no shows", there were maybe 4 up and running. My son and I sat in a pizza shop off of the Strip and waited for the rain to let up. Took us maybe 5-10 minutes tops to get inside the stadium.

 

[BamaFan334]

@BamaFan334, It's just not that simple.

What staffing agency are you going to call on a Saturday, with an hour or so notice, telling them we need guys to maintain metal detectors? A temp agency isn't going to have people trained for the job as simple as it may seem. You're also assuming the company that handles the detectors are based out of Tuscaloosa which brings up another logistics issue.

I've worked a few job where we hired temps at last seconds notice seven days a week, and there is a temp agency right by Forest Lake where I used to live. You put your experienced guys where it matters, and the temps in the spots that basically just need eyes or a body. For instance, one guy just stood there with a bucket for me to put my belongings in while another guy wanded me. Put the inexperienced guy holding the bucket while you walk through and the experienced guy to wand or eyeball folks walking through the detector. On top of it all, the University has hundreds, maybe thousands of temp or part time workers that participate in a variety of jobs on Gamedays and others that just wait on phone calls to be needed. I know this because my old neighbor is one of those folks that does it to earn a few extra bucks when they need her. I understand as well nothing is ever as simple as it may sound, but the company was hired to perform a job and it was us, the paying public that got the worst of it. I'm betting the company hired was still paid their contracted amount.

Anything would have been better than making thousands of fans sit in the rain and rushing to get to their seats before the game started while half the detectors went unused. They can't help the rain of course, but they could have figured a way to rush the process. It's why they were hired.

 

[TerryP]

On top of it all, the University has hundreds, maybe thousands of temp or part time workers that participate in a variety of jobs on Gamedays and others that just wait on phone calls to be needed.

For one, that's just not applicable. The University has already paid the company for the job--they aren't going to turn around and then pay their own employees to do someone else's job. There's nothing about that which makes any sense--it's losing a lot of cents.

And again, time frame. On a Saturday your employment agencies are not going to be able to turn around and get manpower on short notice--IF any of those are actually open on Saturday's.

It was an uncomfortable situation for a few. A simple, quick remedy just wasn't in the cards.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

The detectors at gate 29 (east upper deck) were all working but they were overrun with people trying to get in. Student gates had almost no wait, but there was a fence between them. Security guard pointed out a three foot opening in the fence separating upper deck and student gates, we went through the student detectors and were in within two minutes.

Definitely a work in progress.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

. It was bullshit and not well thought out.

How does a company go about "thinking out" employees not showing up for work? It's my understanding there were a lot of the detectors unmanned due to staffing issues.

Staffing companies should know their typical no-show rates. They're being paid to supply a certain number of workers, not a certain number of potential workers. The temp agencies that staff a large portion of the Mercedes and Honda plants have it down to a science.

 

[TerryP]

Staffing companies should know their typical no-show rates. They're being paid to supply a certain number of workers, not a certain number of potential workers. The temp agencies that staff a large portion of the Mercedes and Honda plants have it down to a science.

Sure they do.

The suggestion by @BamaFan334 was they should have contacted a staff agency Saturday when the security company's employees didn't show up. Should the contracted security company have handled their situation better? Sure, if there was a way they'd know who wasn't going to show up.

It was an inconvenient situation for some but the suggestion it could have been rectified within a matter of a hour or two is short sighted.

 

[BamaFan334]

Staffing companies should know their typical no-show rates. They're being paid to supply a certain number of workers, not a certain number of potential workers. The temp agencies that staff a large portion of the Mercedes and Honda plants have it down to a science.

Sure they do.

The suggestion by @BamaFan334 was they should have contacted a staff agency Saturday when the security company's employees didn't show up. Should the contracted security company have handled their situation better? Sure, if there was a way they'd know who wasn't going to show up.

It was an inconvenient situation for some but the suggestion it could have been rectified within a matter of a hour or two is short sighted.

It's not short sighted for anyone to think that a business that was paid to do a job should do the job right. These guys are more than likely asked to be at a meeting spot or staff meeting more than an hour or two before the gates open, which then gives them another 2-2.5 hours to make these kind of decisions and adjustments before the game actually starts. I don't consider it short sighted to complete a job you were paid to do without inconveniencing thousands of people.

My heart is not broken and I didn't need to take a personal day to get over this travesty, just making a point that any business worth a damn plans for these things. It appears it has been an issue before last weekend as well.

 

[TerryP]

It's not short sighted for anyone to think that a business that was paid to do a job should do the job right.

Dude, that has nothing to do with what I said. It's not even in the same ballpark

It was an inconvenient situation for some but the suggestion it could have been rectified within a matter of a hour or two is short sighted.

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[BamaFan334]

It's not short sighted for anyone to think that a business that was paid to do a job should do the job right.

Dude, that has nothing to do with what I said. It's not even in the same ballpark

It was an inconvenient situation for some but the suggestion it could have been rectified within a matter of a hour or two is short sighted.

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My whole point was that they were paid to do a job and that they had more than an hour or two to figure it out as you stated, so yes, it is in the same ballpark. You're simply making excuses for the company for some reason and acting as if I'm short sighted in the fact that I can't foresee an issue like this arising and thinking it can possibly be fixed. You're acting as if it was some unforeseeable possibility that someone may not show up for work and impossible to fix. People that are in these positions are notorious for not being able to be trusted, and these companies know that and should have plans for when these instances occur. I gave solutions that could have gotten it fixed, this isn't the first issue at a home game with these detectors, so how am I the short sighted one?