| CURRENT EVENTS The Border Bill. I've got what I think is a simple question. Thoughts?

[TerryP]

There are several different aspects of the proposed bill I don't like. If I were sitting in Washington, I'd have voted against the bill. No second thoughts.

There is one thing about that proposal that just doesn't make sense to me given what we've been told.

One of the components of the bill is they would stop border crossings, every day, when they reach the 5000 limit. If I understand this correctly, #4999 and #5000 can get in, but #5001 is stopped (until tomorrow.)

If they have the ability to stop at 5000 doesn't that mean they have the ability to stop at 1?

 

[Sid Youngleman]

We don't need any more immigrants at all until we've used up the ones we have.

 

[alabamajack]

If only we had thousands of politicians, judges and protesters crossing over from the USA into Mexico everyday

 

[alabama mike]

If a person from another country wants to come here LEGALLY, great come on in. I am 100% from stopping any ILLEGAL from coming into our country. Speaking as a person who does not consider himself Republican or Democrat, just a PO'd American.

 

[ElephantStomp]

I'm going to have to read this again before I go to sleep for a bit.

A no war "chicken shit." How does that work.

Should’ve added the border. They passed a ridiculously expansive defense budget (that we don’t need btw), but part of the defense of this country isn’t the border?

 

[ElephantStomp]

I have to go back to an earlier post.

A bill that was singularly designated to support the border efforts was killed. Why do you think that the border should be in the defense bill?

I'm of the opinion we need single line items: no addendums.

Well because isn’t the border part of defense?

I’m of the opinion we need single line bills, but the government on both sides will never go for that

 

[Rsedge72]

They all should be “summarily” tried for treason!!

 

[Rsedge72]

 

[24and7]

Also, it would have routed ALL Texas immigration law challenges to the DC Circuit Court System..

 

[OldPlayer]

They have no way of keeping an accurate, up to the minute, count. 5000 per day equals 1,825,000 per year. In 2023 there were 2.5 million illegal crossings. A 27% reduction isn’t enough.

 

[TerryP]

They have no way of keeping an accurate, up to the minute, count.

The absence of critical thinking when that specific number should be questioned ...

 

[ElephantStomp]

Wasn’t a great bill, but it was at least something that was bipartisan, but everybody knew it wasn’t going to pass, Lord Velveeta doesn’t want anything that could be perceived to help Biden (his own words).

If you pass a bill it takes away a political yapping point, so I don’t see a bill being passed at all of any kind

 

[24and7]

Texas has failed the “Don’t mess with Texas” test.. The 2nd amendment solution was the only real solution.. The people should’ve formed a militia..The sheriffs should’ve formed large posies..Neither happened, so the Gubbermint is not scared at all

 

[TerryP]

Wasn’t a great bill, but it was at least something that was bipartisan, but everybody knew it wasn’t going to pass

I'm not one to believe having a few members cross the aisle on an issue makes it bi-partisan.

49 of 100 voting against the bill isn't two different sides coming together in agreement.

 

[ElephantStomp]

I'm not one to believe having a few members cross the aisle on an issue makes it bi-partisan.

49 of 100 voting against the bill isn't two different sides coming together in agreement.

Well to be honest we all know most of one aisle isn’t going to vote for something that helps the guy running against their lord and savior

 

[TerryP]

Well to be honest we all know most of one aisle isn’t going to vote for something that helps the guy running against their lord and savior

So, conversely, does that make Biden ... two sides to every issue, right?

Interesting phrasing, "voting for something that helps the guy running." Did you just say something outloud?

 

[24and7]

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/03/federal-appeals-court-reverses-judges-ruling-allows-texas/

 

[ElephantStomp]

So, conversely, does that make Biden ... two sides to every issue, right?

Interesting phrasing, "voting for something that helps the guy running." Did you just say something outloud?

He (Trump) said it out loud that he doesn’t want repubs doing anything that helps Biden

 

[TerryP]

He (Trump) said it out loud that he doesn’t want repubs doing anything that helps Biden

Okay.

If it's a bad bill, and Trump encouraged Republicans not to support the efforts the Biden administration is currently endorsing, how is this a bad thing?

If there was a single line bill with money earmarked for border protection and security, do you believe that the Republican party, and those who support Trump, would stand against that bill?

While immigration is on the forefront of everyone's mind in this discussion; its core lies with Ukraine. In my view, and it is also my "stance," the message is don't support the bill because it's not intended to strengthen the border: that's merely a side for more funding overseas: both Ukraine and the Gaza conflict.

Eerily, much like the "Inflation Reduction Act" lauded as the greatest measure for fighting climate change.

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Side note ... just a bit of political trivia.

If they took the amount of money they sent to Ukraine, and kept it here, they could have repaired the water system in Flint, MI over 200X...I think the exact number is 216 times.

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And now we're beginning to hear the Administration was flying illegal immigrants into the states, over border security so the numbers were not counted, and secretly dropping them off all over the nation.

And the opponent to the current administration says, "don't support anything this administration is doing right now."

I don't understand where the issue lies.

 

[ElephantStomp]

Okay.

If it's a bad bill, and Trump encouraged Republicans not to support the efforts the Biden administration is currently endorsing, how is this a bad thing?

If there was a single line bill with money earmarked for border protection and security, do you believe that the Republican party, and those who support Trump, would stand against that bill?

While immigration is on the forefront of everyone's mind in this discussion; its core lies with Ukraine. In my view, and it is also my "stance," the message is don't support the bill because it's not intended to strengthen the border: that's merely a side for more funding overseas: both Ukraine and the Gaza conflict.

Eerily, much like the "Inflation Reduction Act" lauded as the greatest measure for fighting climate change.

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Side note ... just a bit of political trivia.

If they took the amount of money they sent to Ukraine, and kept it here, they could have repaired the water system in Flint, MI over 200X...I think the exact number is 216 times.

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And now we're beginning to hear the Administration was flying illegal immigrants into the states, over border security so the numbers were not counted, and secretly dropping them off all over the nation.

And the opponent to the current administration says, "don't support anything this administration is doing right now."

I don't understand where the issue lies.

Trump told them not to support it because it helps Biden, not because it was a “bad bill” or anything of the sort. So, to answer your question “if it was a single line bill for border protection and security would Repubs and those who support Trump stand against it”? Yes, they in fact do, they stood against it because he told them not to support it because it helps Biden plain and simple.

The bill in fact was intended to strengthen the border, read the damn thing. That’s also why on the day both of those dumbshits were at the border during his speech Biden said for Trump to come together with him on a border bill and since then Trump has declined why is that? Because any kind of border bill helps Biden plain and simple. The right has zero interest in a border bill unless it’s with a repub president.

Of course you don’t see where the issue lies, none of you on the right do….I wouldn’t expect you to