🏈 Take aways from week 4

[Vabama77]

I agree with terry , I don't see nix being some elite game changer. He's being protected by that defense. He's not going toe to toe with Tua,Fromm , or even burrow (that tells u alot)

 

[planomateo]

Some perspective, he's only played 4 games.

 

[TerryP]

Terry...I have been hating the barn before you were born and I want them to shit the bed in anything and everything they do. If you have watched the Nix kid then you can see he has the it factor ahead of him. He is no Nick Marshall as far as running but he is more than athletic enough to make big plays with his feet and that is a problem.

The "it" factor. As I said earlier, you may be right. I feel as the opposite of that has as much chance to be true as well.

In the SEC who would we compare him to today when it comes to that "it" factor? We can't use Tua; worlds apart. Fromm? Is that a good place to start? Fromm was completing over 60% of his passes as a TF while Nix is a 50% guy. He has accuracy issues, wouldn't you agree?

So, we're left with how does a QB improve on his accuracy? A good QB coach? Well, we don't see that in Gus based on what we've seen him do. Will it require a coaching change for him to reach his potential? I'd dare say, "Yes. Yes it will."

Is Jake Bentley a better comparison? IF so, again we're looking at the same thing with Fromm. Accuracy.

As Matt pointed out we're just looking at four games. However, we're also looking at Nix facing better secondaries as the year progresses. It's arguable these numbers will drop.

Does Franks at UF or Mond at A&M also have that it factor? I ask because what we're seeing out of Nix mirrors that we saw from both of those guys.

 

[Vabama77]

I think the kid has a winning mentality , but I don't think was any better in high school than Taulia was

 

[alabama mike]

I will add that LSU and Georgia are the best in the SEC right now IMO. Auburn is playing really good defense but consistency on offense with the OL is still lacking. Are Arkansas and UT really in the SEC? Wow!!!! Vandy is back to normal from years gone by. The boys is Tuscaloosa are still a work in progress. As of today, IMO, they are not as good as the first two teams mentioned above but there is still a lot of football to be played.

 

[rick4bama]

Some good points here.

 

[NickelDoubleDog]

I will add that LSU and Georgia are the best in the SEC right now IMO. Auburn is playing really good defense but consistency on offense with the OL is still lacking. Are Arkansas and UT really in the SEC? Wow!!!! Vandy is back to normal from years gone by. The boys is Tuscaloosa are still a work in progress. As of today, IMO, they are not as good as the first two teams mentioned above but there is still a lot of football to be played.

What about LSU makes them better than Alabama?

If Alabama gave up 38 to Vandy people would commit suicide. If LSU does it, they are better than Alabama because now they score a ton of points.

 

[Elderfalsedemigod]

A&M really has nothing that makes me say, they will win as season gets harder. Very vanilla and Mond has regressed

au defense is legit. Nothing the Nix kid does makes me think he is going to be anything more than average

Kirby is chicken shit. He had a chance to put that game to sleep and chose to kick a FG rather than let Swift pick up one yard

LSU has a prolific offense. Vandy scored 38 points. Absolutely no one seems to want to talk about that

Mich has no run defense and very little offense. Gattis is being shown to be a lying fool

 

[alabama mike]

What about LSU makes them better than Alabama?

If Alabama gave up 38 to Vandy people would commit suicide. If LSU does it, they are better than Alabama because now they score a ton of points.

Run game, pass game and their defense is playing better than ours right now.

 

[NickelDoubleDog]

Run game, pass game and their defense is playing better than ours right now.

Run game, pass game and their defense is playing better than ours right now.

LOL, get a clue.

They gave up 38 to Vandy.

Rushing yards per game:

LSU 131.8
Alabama 178.8

YPC
LSU 4.0
Alabama 5.3

It's as if you don't watch any games or don't know how numbers work.

Passing game is at best even from LSU's perspective

 

[alabama mike]

LOL, get a clue.

They gave up 38 to Vandy.

Rushing yards per game:

LSU 131.8
Alabama 178.8

YPC
LSU 4.0
Alabama 5.3

It's as if you don't watch any games or don't know how numbers work.

Passing game is at best even from LSU's perspective

Its an opinion for goodness sakes! I have a clue for your info bc I played through college and coached for over 15 years. LSU's defense is better than Bama's RIGHT NOW based on our VERY YOUNG LB's. I AM NOT saying they will be better in a few weeks. We are young and developing and the only way to get better is for our young kids to play in real games.

 

[NickelDoubleDog]

Its an opinion for goodness sakes! I have a clue for your info bc I played through college and coached for over 15 years. LSU's defense is better than Bama's RIGHT NOW based on our VERY YOUNG LB's. I AM NOT saying they will be better in a few weeks. We are young and developing and the only way to get better is for our young kids to play in real games.

You are entitled to your own opinion, you are not entitled to your own set of facts. Facts say the exact opposite of what you contend.

Giving up 38 to Vandy sure was an impressive D performance!

 

[TerryP]

LSU's defense is better than Bama's RIGHT NOW based on our VERY YOUNG LB's.

Its an opinion for goodness sakes!

When the numbers don't support your opinion, perhaps it's time to rethink your opinion?

There's one of the four statistics that say LSU is better than Alabama in the major defense categories--run defense. And the gap there is negligible and arguable.

There's a two touchdown difference between the two teams in scoring defense: 10.8 allowed vs 23.5 allowed. Bama.
There's a 35 yard difference, per game, in passing yards allowed with more attempts against Bama and a higher completions allowed. Bama.
There's a 35 yard difference, per game, in total defense as well. Bama.

Now, back to the run defense. LSU is allowing 96.5 yards per game, Bama 98.75. But there's the big catch: LSU has given up three touchdowns on the ground, Bama hasn't allowed a single one. (Three TD's vs under three yards. Fair to call it a wash?)

Opponents in the red zone. Bama hasn't let opponents in as much as LSU and doesn't allow them to score as much as LSU. Bama/Bama.
Interceptions: Bama has five. LSU has two. Bama.
LSU has two more tackles for loss as well as two more sacks through four games. LSU/LSU.
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It doesn't fit, Mike.

And, for what it's worth, you'll find LSU and Bama above Georgia in just about every category as well.

 

[UAgrad93]

I was about to post some blind numbers between the two and have everyone take a guess.

BAMA D has faced 267 snaps, given up 1151 yards, 4.31 yards per play, and allow 287.8 yards per game.
LSwho D 272 snaps, 1280 yards allowed, 4.71 per play, 320.0 per game.

The Coonasses have more experienced guys on D but their numbers don't support that they are better.

 

[c5vetman]

Who has ever given up 38 points to Vandy? Other than LSU? No one this year. Purdue gave them 24. PURDUE! Gawja gave up 6 to them. I know a lot of those were in garbage time, but still, if you have to score 40 points to beat Vandy, I don't think you can be considered a great team.

 

[MunchyOs]

The barn's start to this season reminds me of Miami's 2017 season. They started the season 10-0 but finished 10-3. They were fool's gold and so is this season's barn team. aTm was WAY over hyped coming into this season. They looked good against the two junior colleges that they played while looking like scared little rabbits against Clemson and API. A win at the most opponent friendly stadium in the nation was not the statement game that they are claiming it is. They still have a tough road ahead. Mississippi State could be a trap game. The game at Florida will depend on which Florida squad shows up. They haven't won in Baton Rouge since the year before Saban got there. Then there is us and Georgia. I don't see Fromm being so intimidated playing at JHS like he was in 2017 as a freshman. Could they win some they aren't supposed to? Yes. But they are a seriously flawed team. They have a good defense, yes, but they only managed to force one turnover against aTm. Their O-line play is suspect at best and the bus can't run the same trick plays all season and expect the same results. The barn is already looking ahead to Florida and has seemingly forgotten that MSU is up next for them. I don't see them losing to the cowbells this year, however, it may be a win they have to earn.

 

[alabamajack]

Not sure I would bet real money on it, but I think this week that the auburn and notre dame games will be a lot closer than people think. Even after week 4, I will be shocked if the 4 playoff teams do not include some combination of Alabama, Georgia, Lsu, clemson, Oklahoma and Ohio state

 

[bamafan9201]

Who has ever given up 38 points to Vandy? Other than LSU? No one this year. Purdue gave them 24. PURDUE! Gawja gave up 6 to them. I know a lot of those were in garbage time, but still, if you have to score 40 points to beat Vandy, I don't think you can be considered a great team.

They were not in garbage time

 

[Tidestalker]

When the numbers don't support your opinion, perhaps it's time to rethink your opinion?

There's one of the four statistics that say LSU is better than Alabama in the major defense categories--run defense. And the gap there is negligible and arguable.

There's a two touchdown difference between the two teams in scoring defense: 10.8 allowed vs 23.5 allowed. Bama.
There's a 35 yard difference, per game, in passing yards allowed with more attempts against Bama and a higher completions allowed. Bama.
There's a 35 yard difference, per game, in total defense as well. Bama.

Now, back to the run defense. LSU is allowing 96.5 yards per game, Bama 98.75. But there's the big catch: LSU has given up three touchdowns on the ground, Bama hasn't allowed a single one. (Three TD's vs under three yards. Fair to call it a wash?)

Opponents in the red zone. Bama hasn't let opponents in as much as LSU and doesn't allow them to score as much as LSU. Bama/Bama.
Interceptions: Bama has five. LSU has two. Bama.
LSU has two more tackles for loss as well as two more sacks through four games. LSU/LSU.
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It doesn't fit, Mike.

And, for what it's worth, you'll find LSU and Bama above Georgia in just about every category as well.

SOS.... It matters.

Not saying Alabama doesn't have the better D, I think we do... But where does SOS fit in to your synopsis? It should

 

[mando]

SOS.... It matters.

Not saying Alabama doesn't have the better D, I think we do... But where does SOS fit in to your synopsis? It should

I was about to ask this. I personally am a statistics guy but it paints a much more accurate picture with more samples. At this point you get an idea but it is still skewed.

I for one prefer to measure against past Bama teams even though most hate that. Using that standard the D and running game are not measuring up. Sorry can't help myself.