🏈 (Split from another thread.} Before you start up about playing the Citadel, have you looked at what P5 teams Bama could have scheduled?

[TerryP]

Bama's 2019 schedule not really gonna look any different if we keep Duke on the calendar.

Duke, New Mexico State, Southern Miss, (insert FCS/crappy FBS team)

How the heck did that 2019 schedule happen ? That's gosh awful. We deserve to start with an 0-1 handicap with that schedule.

PAC12. The answer is none. Every team has a conference game on the 17th of November.
Sat., Nov. 17
ARIZONA at WASHINGTON STATE
ARIZONA STATE at OREGON
USC at UCLA
UTAH at COLORADO
OREGON STATE at WASHINGTON
STANFORD at CALIFORNIA

ACC...15 team football conference with one outlier in WCU vs UNC.
Saturday, Nov. 17
Boston College at Florida State
Duke at Clemson
Virginia at Georgia Tech
NC State at Louisville
Miami at Virginia Tech
Western Carolina at North Carolina
Pitt at Wake Forest
Syracuse vs. Notre Dame (Yankee Stadium, The Bronx, N.Y.)

Big12...
Iowa State at Texas
Kansas at Oklahoma
West Virginia at Oklahoma State
Texas Tech at K-State
TCU at Baylor

B1G...same thing there with every team playing a conference opponent.

See where we are here? Out of every team in the P5 there's one with an open date.

What does the Mountain West look like? All conference games.
Saturday, Nov. 17
Air Force at Wyoming
Boise State at New Mexico
Utah State at Colorado State
Nevada at San José State
San Diego State at Fresno State
UNLV at Hawai‘i

SunBelt? Conference games...every one of them.
Saturday, November 17
Georgia State at Appalachian State
ULM at Arkansas State
Georgia Southern at Coastal Carolina
South Alabama at Louisiana
Texas State at Troy

We're looking at a remaining list of the Big Sky, Big South, Colonial, Ivy, Mid-Eastern, Mizzou Vallen, Northeast, Ohio Valley, Patriot, Pioneer, Southern, Southland, and Southwestern.

Where do you want to go for a team to replace the Citadel? I've wiped out all of FBS, 20 or so FCS teams...and, we've got to eliminate the Southern here because that's the Citadel's conference. (Of note the Tide has played UTC from the same conference on a few occasions.)

If we jump to the Southwestern we're looking at Alabama A&M, Grambling, Prarie View...what's the difference between them and the Citadel? Anyone want to look up that conference schedule?

Dollars to donuts people are going to bitch about playing the Citadel. What's the, or your, answer?

 

[50+yeartidefan]

I dont know playing Shit-a-dell is the problem....although i dont like it...its a nice game before AU...rest starters....get 2s some work....like Aday...except 40-50 $ a ticket...
But Louisiana...ark state...Louisville...and the aforementioned....
And neutral sites.....
And then duke and the others..neutral sites..
And then we have to worrk tv times into it....
So its not one game its the year after year...and seeing uga have NDn GT...AU with home n home with Clemson...Ark with TCU...Fl with Fsu and another power 5...etc...
Guess it was not as much an issue when the CUSA games were competitive.....with Bama weaker....glad its an issue now....
But whatever....
Probably a 9 game sec slate would have helped...with 2 midsmajors....and a power 5....like NS wanted....

 

[TheChief]

Are teams forced to play 12 games? A week off is safer for all involved. The outcome is already decided. Who wants to see it at 40 or 50 bucks a pop? Make donation to the university and be done with it.

 

[TUSKtimes]

If the NCAA makes all Power 5 teams stop playing FCS teams, how many openings do we now have to fill out our schedule?

 

[TerryP]

If the NCAA makes all Power 5 teams stop playing FCS teams, how many openings do we now have to fill out our schedule?

I don't get the question. It's an eight conference schedule leaving four.

 

[TUSKtimes]

I don't get the question. It's an eight conference schedule leaving four.

If there are no FCS teams, how difficult could it then be for all power 5 teams to fill their schedule?

 

[TerryP]

Are teams forced to play 12 games? A week off is safer for all involved. The outcome is already decided. Who wants to see it at 40 or 50 bucks a pop? Make donation to the university and be done with it.

Over 100,000. No, no team is "forced" to play 12 if we remove things like budget concerns. No one is dropping to 11 games, Chief.

If there are no FCS teams, how difficult could it then be for all power 5 teams to fill their schedule?

You'll have to do the math or set up some type of spread sheet to figure it out. It would require a wholesale change in conference schedules across the board.

It won't be an easy task to see how it could shake out. First things first is undoubtedly all conferences go to nine game schedules with three left to fill. That would leave three weeks and I suspect the point we're dealing with five conferences--versus six as example--will be a point of struggle.

 

[planomateo]

Wish the SEC would grow a set and move to 9 conference games...and stop playing FCS opponents.

 

[TUSKtimes]

Wish the SEC would grow a set and move to 9 conference games...and stop playing FCS opponents.

Might as well throw in, and let the 2 best SEC teams play in the CG.

 

[50+yeartidefan]

Its funny though.....and its basic economics of supply n demand...
Play fcs opponents....sell 101m tickets....play power 5....101m tickets...the demand is there...for the ticket...regardless of who is the opponent
If it was about fans....it would be so different...but its about money....
And really...a couple of non power 5s...ok...2 plus fcs...to much...
But we still buy the tckets...we still shop around the stadium...we still fill Dreamland...we still fill motels...so....its not really the schools athletic program doing it..its the fans...

 

[TerryP]

Its funny though.....and its basic economics of supply n demand...

That's the reality of how many P5 teams? Bama is in an envious spot because the athletic department is making money. Florida State, using last years example, lost money from their athletic department while getting allocated funds. Granted, it was a little over a 200K loss but weigh that in comparison of losing one of those "paydays." Now they're 6-8 million in debt.

 

[TUSKtimes]

That's the reality of how many P5 teams? Bama is in an envious spot because the athletic department is making money. Florida State, using last years example, lost money from their athletic department while getting allocated funds. Granted, it was a little over a 200K loss but weigh that in comparison of losing one of those "paydays." Now they're 6-8 million in debt.

Creative bookkeeping? I knew a guy that used to tell his workers he just didn't have enough cash in his account to make even a small advance. He just failed to mention how many accounts he had. Universities can do a lot better than that.

 

[planomateo]

Might as well throw in, and let the 2 best SEC teams play in the CG.

I'm ok with the division format. Hell, we've backed into it twice w/o winning the conference...and the best two teams ended up playing for the NC in both of those seasons so I don't see it as a problem

 

[252BAMA]

If the NCAA makes all Power 5 teams stop playing FCS teams, how many openings do we now have to fill out our schedule?

Wouldn't change a thing because of the timing and the location. Namely the next to last weekend of the season in Tuscaloosa, Alabama. As long as Bama insists on that weekend be left open for an OOC game at home, there will always be just a handful of FBS teams available on that weekend . None of which that would be willing to come to Tuscaloosa and play Bama.

In 2016, with 128 FBS teams, 100 of them were playing conference games on that weekend. Thirteen of the remaining 27 were in the SEC. As said above, none of the 14 remaining teams would have been willing to come to Tuscaloosa to play Bama. I did not bother to research 2017 because the results would have been the same . Or worse, as Terry discovered in researching 2018.

 

[OldPlayer]

If the NCAA mandates the elimination of FCS teams, that means it impacts everyone else, too. Openings will occur. In addition, the change would happen over time (you wouldn't see it fully implemented in the 2019 or 2020 season). Some teams will be required to buy out their opponent to make it happen.

 

[rolltide66]

If the NCAA mandates the elimination of FCS teams, that means it impacts everyone else, too. Openings will occur. In addition, the change would happen over time (you wouldn't see it fully implemented in the 2019 or 2020 season). Some teams will be required to buy out their opponent to make it happen.

I cannot really see this happening, if they remove these games, many of the FCS schools will be forced out of playing sports. Cannot imagine if these schools suddenly lose the $1 million+ paydays, heck, several times one of these schools will play 2 $1million + games a year. Being the tune up game on the schedule adds significant paydays and allows the smaller schools to move closer to a balanced budget.
Believe there would be a major uproar from the recipients of these paydays and at the end of the day, things will remain the same as today
But, I could be mistaken

 

[OldPlayer]

I cannot really see this happening, if they remove these games, many of the FCS schools will be forced out of playing sports. Cannot imagine if these schools suddenly lose the $1 million+ paydays, heck, several times one of these schools will play 2 $1million + games a year. Being the tune up game on the schedule adds significant paydays and allows the smaller schools to move closer to a balanced budget.
Believe there would be a major uproar from the recipients of these paydays and at the end of the day, things will remain the same as today
But, I could be mistaken

I agree, but they could limit the number of FCS games. Small schools need the big school games to keep their athletic departments and teams. At the same time, what Power 5 or Group of 5 team wants to schedule Alabama (almost a certain loss these days) and other top teams and jeapordize their post season opportunities?

 

[252BAMA]

I agree, but they could limit the number of FCS games. Small schools need the big school games to keep their athletic departments and teams. At the same time, what Power 5 or Group of 5 team wants to schedule Alabama (almost a certain loss these days) and other top teams and jeapordize their post season opportunities?

They are not going to eliminate nor limit the number of FCS games. They have already been there and done that. The rule that limited 1A schools to playing 1AA schools once every four years was abolished on the EXACT same day that the 12th game was added to the schedule. None of us need to be a rocket scientist to determine for what the 12th game was intended.

 

[OldPlayer]

They are not going to eliminate nor limit the number of FCS games. They have already been there and done that. The rule that limited 1A schools to playing 1AA schools once every four years was abolished on the EXACT same day that the 12th game was added to the schedule. None of us need to be a rocket scientist to determine for what the 12th game was intended.

Yeah, it will never happen. That's why it will probably happen.

 

[TerryP]

They are not going to eliminate nor limit the number of FCS games.

I'd agree with this today. In the future if we see a breakaway from the G5 schools I can see them considering a limit.