🏈 Rammer Jammer

Kirk Van de Graaff

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There has been so much debate on this subject, I feel like adding my opinion on this subject.

First off, I hear " We should only do it against teams like Auburn, UT and so forth, I say sing it against every team we play. Who cares if its Penn State, or SJSU. After all, thats what we want isn't it? To beat the Hell out of every team we play. The line "We just beat the Hell out of you" seems to be the problem. After 100 + bucks a ticket, I want Alabama to beat the Hell out of everyone.

This political correctness thing or being classy is going a bit too far IMHO. You can still act with class and sing a cheer. Does anyone realize how pumped our boys get when we aknowledge their efforts? Don't you think the opposing team understands where we are comming from? The day we let minor fun like this be stifled because of worrying about the other teams feelings we might as well change our names to the Land Sharks our something.


Hey PSU, We just beat the Hell out of you!" ROLL TIDE ROLL
 
A win wouldnt be the same without it. Indeed, beat the hell out of them. Out of everyone. Everyone in the SEC is gunning for the team, given by the schedule, and we are going to be backed into the corner before its all said and done. They will all be fresh and hungry against our boys, who will experience wear and tear. The hardest part of the season is well into october imo and into through november. As we beat those hungry and fresh teams, I will sing rammer jammer everytime, with or without the aid of the band.

we are alabama fans, its what we do
 
Demanding to our team that we, "send the Yellow Jackets to a watery grave" is perhaps the most classless taunt in all of sports. It is why Georgia Tech refuses to play us. It's why they left the SEC. Just plain classless.

I never knew that our song lyrics were the reason that GT quit playing Alabama. I was always under the impression that it was because of an incident which had occurred during the 1963 game between the schools. The following account was taken from http://rootzoo.com/articles/view/NC...rangest-History-Georgia-Tech-and-the-SEC_9907

The year is 1964. Lyndon Johnson is President, the Beatles are at the top of the pop/rock world, Barry Goldwater is the Republican nominee for President, the Vietnam War is on it's way to becoming one of the most controversial periods in American history, and, after their 20th year under head coach Robert "Bobby" Dodd, Georgia Tech decides to leave the Southeastern Conference (SEC), a conference that they had been a part of since joining the Southern Intercollegiate Athletic Association (SIAA) in 1895.

So what happened to Georgia Tech and the SEC? What caused this massive falling out that lead to a team leaving a conference that they have been a part of for 69 years and that they are still listed in as a founding member? This long and strange history, admittedly, could only happen in the South where football is king and could only happen because of a relationship between two men who are almost synonymous with the game of college football. Those two men? Paul "Bear" Bryant and Robert "Bobby" Dodd.

However, before we get to that relationship, perhaps it would be best to visit the history of Georgia Tech football, once one of the great powers of the game. Lead by coaches such as John Heisman (you know, the guy who has a trophy named after him) and then Bobby Dodd, the Yellow Jackets were always a figure on the national scene. A program with four national championships to their name (more than Florida, Florida State, and a lot of other very prestigious programs, and the same amount as the Texas Longhorns), Georgia Tech also 5 SEC Championships, 3 Southern Conference Championships, and 5 SIAA Championships.

So what caused this very successful, very prestigious program to up and leave a conference that they were a founding member of? That story has it's roots deep in the history of Georgia Tech and Alabama and stretches back to a very personal rivalry between Alabama head coach Bear Bryant and Georgia Tech head coach Bobby Dodd.

Originally, these two men were great friends who got along both on and off the field and had a lot of respect for each other. However, that all changed on a cloudy, overcast day in Birmingham at Legion Field in 1963. Late in the game, which Georgia Tech lost to Alabama 10-0, an Alabama player came with an elbow and knocked a Georgia Tech player so hard across the face that his cheekbone was shattered and several teeth ripped out. A media uproar followed that could not even be quelled by the visit of the Alabama football player to the Atlanta hospital where the Georgia Tech player was recovering.

The media continued to call for punishment, including publishing frame by frame photos of the incident. [Coach] Bryant, stubborn as ever, was reported to have remarked that he would take care of his own player and discipline him and that the Atlanta media was not going to tell him how to run his team. While there is some debate about if that player was disciplined or not, Dodd and Bryant, who had once been great friends, stopped talking and the series between Alabama and Georgia Tech was discontinued after one more game (which Georgia Tech lost 24-7 in Atlanta) when, in 1964, Georgia Tech abruptly left the conference.

While there are some people who still believe that Georgia Tech left the conference because of a debate over scholarship allocation and the treatment of student athletes, most old SEC fans will tell you that Georgia Tech left because Dodd could not stand to see Bryant year in and year out. Between 1965 and 1977, Georgia Tech was an independent team. While Dodd envisioned Tech eventually being the Notre Dame of the South and playing a national football schedule, Georgia Tech never reached the glory days of their time in the SEC.

Dodd left Tech in 1966, shortly after pulling them out of the SEC, and Tech struggled in the three years following his departure, going 4-6 in each of those seasons. While there would be some success, such as a 9-3 record in 1970, Georgia Tech went 85-53-3 during their time as an independent, never reaching their goal of becoming the Notre Dame of the South.

However, in 1975, there appeared to be a making up of sorts between Coach Bryant and Coach Dodd, when Bryant told Dodd that Alabama would personally sponsor Georgia Tech getting back into the SEC. While Dodd was grateful, he stated that the Mississippi schools would never allow Tech back into the SEC.

Why the Mississippi schools, you ask? Well that begins another interesting chapter in this story (I told you it was twisted!).

Apparently, during this period in SEC history, teams were not required by the conference to play certain schools like they are now. During the 30 years that Georgia Tech was in the SEC, let's look at their history with the Mississippi schools.

Ole Miss and Georgia Tech played in 1946, in Atlanta, and in 1953, in New Orleans in the Sugar Bowl. Against Mississippi State? Between 1933 and 1963, the Bulldogs and the Yellow Jackets never played a game against each other. According to legend, Dodd felt that Georgia Tech was too good to have to travel to places like Oxford and Starkville to play football games, so he never would agree to play the Mississippi schools

From the history that has been presented above, it now becomes obvious why the Mississippi schools would block Georgia Tech, even when Coach Bryant was willing to give in.
 
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I never knew that our song lyrics were the reason that GT quit playing Alabama. I was always under the impression that it was because of an incident which had occurred during the 1963 game between the schools. The following account was taken from http://rootzoo.com/articles/view/NC...rangest-History-Georgia-Tech-and-the-SEC_9907

There are several reasons Factor. Back in the 50's Ears Whitworth got pissed off after a loss to the Jackets and urinated in GT's visitors locker room before boarding the bus. He also stole a bunch of towels from the laundry area.
 
Some people just have the need to whine about something, so why not bama fans' cheers? I don't think it's neither taunting or classless. If people don't like it they could always watch Dora the Explorer instead of Bama games... just saying
 
There are several reasons Factor. Back in the 50's Ears Whitworth got pissed off after a loss to the Jackets and urinated in GT's visitors locker room before boarding the bus. He also stole a bunch of towels from the laundry area.
Well if someone stole towels from my laundry room. I would also leave the SEC.
 
Okay, I'm with you guys. Just tell the other teams to go **** themselves. Give them the finger. After all, we did pay good money to go to the games. Why draw the line there. Just bring guns and if the other teams lose, just open fire. It's what we are. I see your point. Enough with "Political Correctness". If they don't see the "class" in what we do, to heck with them. Oh sorry, used the wrong word here in Bama.

Okay, carry on. I'm on board. And if the other teams don't like it, they can go join the ACC.
 
Reading about how "we're 'Bama fans, it's what we do" I can't help but remember how much of a problem 'Bama fans had with Miami & their own unsportsmanlike conduct....(Oh, that's different...that's NOT Alabama doing that!)

I love hearing about how Alabama can only talk about having class but can't show it. Obviously we can show it & we do. But we also do many classless things & apparently it's okay because it's not someone else doing it....excellent. I'm sure Ol' Bear was very proud after the game.
 
Do you have some sort of specific problem with me? This is like the second time you have called me out on a thread, this time indirectly, and i am doing my best to not get angry here.

I know i tend to poorly articulate things, but do like terryp does when i do that.
 
Reading about how "we're 'Bama fans, it's what we do" I can't help but remember how much of a problem 'Bama fans had with Miami & their own unsportsmanlike conduct....(Oh, that's different...that's NOT Alabama doing that!)

I love hearing about how Alabama can only talk about having class but can't show it. Obviously we can show it & we do. But we also do many classless things & apparently it's okay because it's not someone else doing it....excellent. I'm sure Ol' Bear was very proud after the game.

Oh wait wait wait. Your user name is GiveEmTheBusiness. We're gonna need you to change that. We wouldn't want to hurt anyone's feelings with such a classless name. We don't want to insinuate that anyone's been given the business. I know it's just a harmless user name and all but it just goes too far.
 
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Do you have some sort of specific problem with me? This is like the second time you have called me out on a thread, this time indirectly, and i am doing my best to not get angry here.

I know i tend to poorly articulate things, but do like terryp does when i do that.

Call it like you see it man, don't let anyone anger you here. I am with you, sing the cheer loud, have fun doing it, cause after all it is all in fun and if PSU beats us next year, and thats a big if, I will not mind the fact they feel good about it, and let us know. I take it as a compliment to be honest. After all IF they beat us they will have earned it. Just like we earned it this year. Joe Pa, will always have my respect, but to beat PSU, like we did, makes me proud, makes me feel like our boys accomplished something. Because they did, they beat a top notch program. Easily, and did it with class. ROLL TIDE.
 

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