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[TerryP]

Some of you guys might want to take the time and watch Monday's episode of Talking out Loud. Not only do they review the White hit and demonstrate how it was targeting, they show a clip of the Auburn vs Ole Miss game on one overturned that'll blow your mind.

More importantly, and to the point, Spears spoke about how he'd talked with several refs about Mack's hit. And they said...wait for it because you've heard it before...his initial contact was with his facemask, in his chest, and the impact roll up to UT's QB's chin area. That's not targeting.

I can't imagine how much "hate tweets" are being sent Spears way from his own fan base.

 

[TUSKtimes]

Some of you guys might want to take the time and watch Monday's episode of Talking out Loud. Not only do they review the White hit and demonstrate how it was targeting, they show a clip of the Auburn vs Ole Miss game on one overturned that'll blow your mind.

More importantly, and to the point, Spears spoke about how he'd talked with several refs about Mack's hit. And they said...wait for it because you've heard it before...his initial contact was with his facemask, in his chest, and the impact roll up to UT's QB's chin area. That's not targeting.

I can't imagine how much "hate tweets" are being sent Spears way from his own fan base.

He was interviewed after the tirade by Carville on Finebaum and essentially told the audience that that type of venting made LSU fans look weak. I also had a problem with the barner DB not getting thrown out of the ole miss game. It just comes down to which crew is making the call and there is still a lack of unanimity. In that it's so subjective and yet punitive, the SEC office is still going to have to tweak this rule.

 

[TerryP]

In that it's so subjective and yet punitive, the SEC office is still going to have to tweak this rule.

How can the SEC tweak a NCAA rule?

 

[BAMANEWSBOT]

LSU linebacker Devin White’s suspension for first half of Alabama game will stand, LSU says

The suspension of star LSU linebacker Devin White for the first half of LSU’s Nov. 3 game against No. 1 Alabama will stand, LSU Senior Associate Athletic Director Robert Munson said.

LSU Athletic Director Joe Alleva was on the phone with SEC officials immediately after LSU’s 19-3 win against Mississippi State on Saturday trying to appeal White’s suspension for targeting on a hit of Mississippi State quarterback Nick Fitzgerald. Because it was in the second half, White was ejected and suspended for the first half of the next game.

“Discussions with the SEC made clear there is no process for appeal,” Munson said. “The suspension will stand.”

The discussions were not contentious, Munson said. The rule as written just left no chance at an appeal. Alleva spent the past 48 hours trying, but there wasn’t much he could do.

White is one of the top linebackers in the country and a potential Top-10 NFL Draft pick. He has 76 tackles on the season with 7.5 tackles for loss. Now, against the No. 1 team in the country, White is officially going to be out for the first half.

Sophomore Patrick Queen filled in for White at linebacker after the ejection and had one tackle. He has 13 tackles on the season.

LSU coach Ed Orgeron didn’t address plans for how to replace White after the game, but he speaks to the media again Tuesday.

In the two days since the call, famous political analyst James Carville wrote an op-ed on the decision proving collusion between Alabama and the SEC and a GoFundMe account was created to put #FreeDevinWhite billboard near the SEC headquarters in Birmingham, Alabama.

LSU linebacker Devin White’s suspension for first half of Alabama game will stand, LSU says

 

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[TerryP]

This just kills me.

White out.
White out.

 

[TUSKtimes]

How can the SEC tweak a NCAA rule?

The most damaging part for me is the supposed safety net. The guys watching the targeting replays are all over the place. Also what replay is running into is the original call on the field. Once the flag comes out the video has to prove it didn't happen. These days, every time SEC refs see and hear a violent hit, out comes the targeting flag. Bama has thumped some kids and it's automatic and we're left holding our breath. Even though many stay in the game, replay better have the right angle or they are gone. Just throwing a flag for the sake of wanting to err on the side of caution can create the issue of a bad camera angle and not enough info to reverse the call.

It's obvious to me that the refs are close enough to the action and aren't seeing targeting to start with all the time. They are watching a violent hit in a violent sport and simply reacting to that. If they don't see it for themselves and honestly believe it's targeting, don't throw the flag. TV may not have the goods to overturn it.

 

[TerryP]

@TUSKtimes, Okay, everyone gets that.

The control SEC has over a NCAA rule is the comment I don't get. How are they supposed to tweak a rule or a process that's a NCAA policy?

 

[TUSKtimes]

@TUSKtimes, Okay, everyone gets that.

The control SEC has over a NCAA rule is the comment I don't get. How are they supposed to tweak a rule or a process that's a NCAA policy?

That's because you are not looking at the context of my post, again.

I also had a problem with the barner DB not getting thrown out of the ole miss game.

In this instance, I'm discussing the barn, who resides in the SEC. The headshot he put on the rebel receiver was worthy. Which led me to this comment:

It just comes down to which crew is making the call and there is still a lack of unanimity.

Which is why I spent the time to discuss when in doubt don't throw it. What often happens is that replay will stop the game if they suspect a targeting call has been missed. Now video has to prove it did happen. Totally different narrative.

In that it's so subjective and yet punitive, the SEC office is still going to have to tweak this rule.

The problem with just throwing flags and erring on the side of caution with SEC crews is that the burden of proof is different. How many calls do we see and hear in a regular ballgame that the ref has to say, the call stands? That's only because there is not enough visual evidence to overturn it. Had they gone the other way, it too would have stood. The same cameras are used for targeting. What's not to get?

 

[TerryP]

@TUSKtimes, We're still left in the same place.

What I'm reading here seems to be you're suggesting that subjectivity should be the same from crew to crew. That's impossible. The replay officials remain constant, so there's little variation there. I'm seeing a constant reference to how the SEC is handling things and they don't have a choice. It's mandated by the NCAA.

 

[TUSKtimes]

@TUSKtimes, We're still left in the same place.

What I'm reading here seems to be you're suggesting that subjectivity should be the same from crew to crew. That's impossible. The replay officials remain constant, so there's little variation there. I'm seeing a constant reference to how the SEC is handling things and they don't have a choice. It's mandated by the NCAA.

I hope you're not in a hurry to put ulterior motives to my comments.

Much like the subjective targeting call, you may have to live with the results and move on.

 

[rocknthefreeworld]

The whole thing is really no different than the facemask rules. Remember when we had two different ones? Now, if you get the facemask, you might as well pull him down by it. Having just one type of penalty is bad for safety. If I am going in for the tackle and realize I am high I might as well follow through with it since trying to pull back does me no good. Incidental and evidence of an attempt to avoid should mean no disqualification at bare minimum.

 

[94 Grad]

The head shot from the aU player on ole miss receiver was not a head shot. I watched that game on TV and the reverse angles shows it’s a shoulder to shoulder hit. It was the proper call to reverse the targeting call in this case.

In all Honestly I think the SEC replay officials have mostly got the targeting call correct this year. It seems like their application of the rule is more in line with what it is intended to be. The targeting call on white however unfortunate is the correct call to the rule definition. The rule definition however should change and I would support a two tier targeting call one with ejection one with just the penalty. The only hard part of that is that you are measuring the Intent and I think that can be hard in some cases To figure that out.

 

[JoseyWalesTheOutlaw]

The head shot from the aU player on ole miss receiver was not a head shot. I watched that game on TV and the reverse angles shows it’s a shoulder to shoulder hit. It was the proper call to reverse the targeting call in this case.

In all Honestly I think the SEC replay officials have mostly got the targeting call correct this year. It seems like their application of the rule is more in line with what it is intended to be. The targeting call on white however unfortunate is the correct call to the rule definition. The rule definition however should change and I would support a two tier targeting call one with ejection one with just the penalty. The only hard part of that is that you are measuring the Intent and I think that can be hard in some cases To figure that out.

The shoulder is the key and has been for several calls made against out DB's. Each time our guys turned that shoulder right at impact thus they stayed and the call was reversed even though the headgears did contact.

 

[rick4bama]

Not showing up agian, can someone fix this?

 

[94 Grad]

Maybe because your link is bad? There is no tweet associated with the link that was posted. I'm guessing it was deleted...

 

[bama alum]

I won't bash their whole fan base because we have a number of Updykes as well; still, this is nonsense.

Finebaum caller urges LSU to go for Tua Tagovailoa's knee

There are moments during every Paul Finebaum Show when callers go off the rails, but Monday's soundbite from a college football fan suggesting LSU should "take out" Alabama quarterback Tua Tagovailoa on Nov. 3 took ridiculous to another stratosphere.

Meet Darriel from Columbus, someone who believes he has the secret in beating the Crimson Tide. His diatribe begins near the 17-minute mark of Hour 4, after which Finebaum gives him a piece of his mind.

“The way you beat Alabama is you take out Tua’s knee,” Darriel said. “Who cares about a head shot? Take out a knee and you got them beat. They still haven’t beaten nobody. I’m glad they’re disrespecting LSU like this. When they knock Tua out and LSU wins and Alabama struggles to beat Mississippi State and then loses to Auburn, it’s over. It is o-v-e-r. That’s the way it’s going to play out, you watch.

"The fall is going to be hard and I’m going to love every second of it."

Finebaum wasn't pleased with the absurdity of the suggestion to injure the nation's top quarterback.

“You know me, Darriel, I don’t preach,” Finebaum said. “Anyone that would call into this program or put on Twitter a suggestion in doing serious injury to a college football player is disgusting. It may be legal, but it’s despicable. I can’t believe you would even write that down.”

Tagovailoa missed much of Alabama's win over Mizzou two weeks ago after tweaking his right knee on a scramble. He wasn't limited in practice the following week and showed no ill effects of soreness during Saturday's victory at Tennessee, throwing four touchdowns passes in a 58-21 rout.

 

[94 Grad]

“The way you beat Alabama is you take out Tua’s knee,” Darriel said. “Who cares about a head shot? Take out a knee and you got them beat. They still haven’t beaten nobody. I’m glad they’re disrespecting LSU like this. When they knock Tua out and LSU wins and Alabama struggles to beat Mississippi State and then loses to Auburn, it’s over. It is o-v-e-r. That’s the way it’s going to play out, you watch.

Double negative.... so I have to support that part of his statement... we haven't beat nobody.

Damn, I hate when those Coonass' are correct.

 

[bama alum]

“The way you beat Alabama is you take out Tua’s knee,” Darriel said. “Who cares about a head shot? Take out a knee and you got them beat. They still haven’t beaten nobody. I’m glad they’re disrespecting LSU like this. When they knock Tua out and LSU wins and Alabama struggles to beat Mississippi State and then loses to Auburn, it’s over. It is o-v-e-r. That’s the way it’s going to play out, you watch.

Double negative.... so I have to support that part of his statement... we haven't beat nobody.

:rolf::rolf::rolf:

 

[BamaFan334]

I won't bash their whole fan base because we have a number of Updykes as well; still, this is nonsense.

Finebaum caller urges LSU to go for Tua Tagovailoa's knee

There are moments during every Paul Finebaum Show when callers go off the rails, but Monday's soundbite from a college football fan suggesting LSU should "take out" Alabama quarterback Tua Tagovailoa on Nov. 3 took ridiculous to another stratosphere.

Meet Darriel from Columbus, someone who believes he has the secret in beating the Crimson Tide. His diatribe begins near the 17-minute mark of Hour 4, after which Finebaum gives him a piece of his mind.

“The way you beat Alabama is you take out Tua’s knee,” Darriel said. “Who cares about a head shot? Take out a knee and you got them beat. They still haven’t beaten nobody. I’m glad they’re disrespecting LSU like this. When they knock Tua out and LSU wins and Alabama struggles to beat Mississippi State and then loses to Auburn, it’s over. It is o-v-e-r. That’s the way it’s going to play out, you watch.

"The fall is going to be hard and I’m going to love every second of it."

Finebaum wasn't pleased with the absurdity of the suggestion to injure the nation's top quarterback.

“You know me, Darriel, I don’t preach,” Finebaum said. “Anyone that would call into this program or put on Twitter a suggestion in doing serious injury to a college football player is disgusting. It may be legal, but it’s despicable. I can’t believe you would even write that down.”

Tagovailoa missed much of Alabama's win over Mizzou two weeks ago after tweaking his right knee on a scramble. He wasn't limited in practice the following week and showed no ill effects of soreness during Saturday's victory at Tennessee, throwing four touchdowns passes in a 58-21 rout.

Well he aired it, so he must not have been too upset over the content. It's all about ratings and only a truly powerful man that sticks to his psalms would have forced a program not to air that garbage. That's why we're a country of decreasing intelligence, because we give air time to idiots like this and The Kardashians and other bullshit TV that makes it ok to act like this and get face time. Pathetic all over.