| CURRENT EVENTS NYC: How different is this from "Stop and Frisk?" (National Guard deployed in NY subways)
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alabamajack
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Sanctuary cities and defunding the police does not seem to be working.
TerryP
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This is reality.
They said, "you can't shop. Close your stores. Stay in your homes." It worked.
Now, we're seeing military members patrolling the streets. "We have a crime problem and we need help" is the narrative; the reality is we have members of the military policing the subways.
Both of these scenarios, which have happened and are happening today, are the earmarks of things they do in martial law.
ElephantStomp
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Except NY didn’t defund them…..
Wyoming has no sanctuary cities as you call them and didn’t take any money from the police and yet for the last 11 years straight crime has gone up……so maybe overpaying cops isn’t the answer?
ElephantStomp
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So, you bitch about the crime and they do something about it and you still bitch……so just say this is a no win situation for you
NYT is providing its putrid service, trumpeting that all searches can be refused.
That really Goetz me…
That really Goetz me…
TerryP
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Bro, you are missing the point entirely. By "doing something about it," you are talking about the military policing civilians; specifically citizens of the US.
IF you want to get down to the brass tacks, it's unconstitutional. Illegal search without probable cause (unless carrying a purse or backpack is probable cause.)
I'm curious.
Is it your opinion that the changes in bail laws (aka bail reform) and the approach the DA's office has taken to prosecuting crimes have NOT had a direct effect on the increase in the crime rates? Not only in NY, but across the country?
I'm struggling with one thing you've said, "they didn't defund the NYPD."
If funds are slashed, like Adams is saying it about to happen to a lot of different programs in NYC, how is that not "defunding?"
IF classes are canceled for incoming recruits, therefore taking the number of NYPD officers off the streets...what exactly do you call that? Cost cutting measures? Reducing the bottom line on expenditures?
TerryP
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24and7
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The governor with her infinite wisdom has banned the guardsmen from carrying “assault weapons” in most areas suddenly!..unbelievable!!
ElephantStomp
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Make no mistake I’m against the NG doing anything like this and I’m against the bozo Governor doing this.
No that’s not my opinion. DA offices approach in some areas has had a direct effect on crime rates (obviously)
NYPD wasn’t “defunded”, cost cut, reduced, or any other damn thing. They’re adding 600 new recruits in April, there’s already three classes that will graduate this year or have already graduated. Adams is a former cop and has tied his identity to the NYPD, so to think he’d screw them over is idiotic.
It's as much the DA as it is the declining number of police, but the decline in police numbers is significant...read the Times (free link) and the Post, I'm sure the truth is in there somewhere.
Mayor Adams Said He Will Cut the N.Y.P.D. Does He Mean It?
In the Police Department, the rank and file is hearing rumors of buyouts and demotions, but many see the mayor’s plan to shrink the department as a political tactic.
NYPD to have only 29K cops by 2025 due to new NYC budget cuts
The NYPD’s force will be reduced to just 29,000 cops by the end of fiscal year 2025 — the lowest level since the mid-90s — amid a slew of city-wide budget cuts revealed by Mayor E…
nypost.com
TerryP
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I did not say that. I asked a question. If a sentence starts with the word, "If," that should be a easy indicator of a hypothetical.
The mayor of NY, Adams, said they were looking at budget cuts across the board due to the influx of illegal immigrants. So, I posed the question ...
I'm going to take this to a bit of an extreme; but not out of the realm of possibility considering what we are witnessing right now. (Your next example in real time will be Pittsburgh.)
When you have people attacking LEO, that is a state of anarchy. When you have people destroying government buildings? Anarchy.
When you have military policing citizens? Tyranny.
What we are witnessing right now? Anarchy and the beginnings of tyranny. In NY, we are seeing authoritism displayed daily.
Literally.
The bottom line. The reason I posted this thread in the first place.
This is yet another case where the Constitution of the United States is being blatantly ignored.
Well said!!!!!!
ElephantStomp
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Adams already went back on his budget cuts, so the question doesn’t need to be asked.I did not say that. I asked a question. If a sentence starts with the word, "If," that should be a easy indicator of a hypothetical.
The mayor of NY, Adams, said they were looking at budget cuts across the board due to the influx of illegal immigrants. So, I posed the question ...
I'm going to take this to a bit of an extreme; but not out of the realm of possibility considering what we are witnessing right now. (Your next example in real time will be Pittsburgh.)
When you have people attacking LEO, that is a state of anarchy. When you have people destroying government buildings? Anarchy.
When you have military policing citizens? Tyranny.
What we are witnessing right now? Anarchy and the beginnings of tyranny. In NY, we are seeing authoritism displayed daily.
Literally.
The bottom line. The reason I posted this thread in the first place.
This is yet another case where the Constitution of the United States is being blatantly ignored.
So, what you’re saying is Jan 6 was anarchy? Glad we can agree on that.
Again I’ll say I don’t agree with the military policing citizens whether it’s in NY or anywhere else.