🏈 no 3 and 4 fastest players in ncaa football retuning kicks

[Swamptick]

Re: still asking, you just kick short?

10.17 100 JF
10.33 100 CS

You kick to them, or wimp out and kick short?
Just want an answer.

Your mom goes to college.

 

[Guest]

Re: still asking, you just kick short?

10.17 100 JF
10.33 100 CS

You kick to them, or wimp out and kick short?
Just want an answer.

These 100 times...did they run them on the football field, carrying a ball, with 11 headhunters after them? Or are you discussing a small part of the game (half of your kicking game), citing numbers from a different sport (track), and now trying to prove that something is more significant than it is? Honestly, bring a mature point to the discussion. There may be a good point in there somewhere, but right now you are not representing the Clemson Nation well.

Here are examples of why your argument is weak.
1. An OL that sets reconds in the Bench Press is strong, and then he gets beat all day by a DT with speed and sound technique.
2. A Blazing shuttle time for a CB who is 5'8" tall, but he gets trashed all day by a slow WR who is 6'6" with "jump ball" passes.
3. A headhunter LB gets burned by cut backs or crack-back blocks because he is undisciplined and over pursues.
4. A QB with a cannon of an arm gets rattled because the backside DE beats the OT and drilled every few plays.

Let me help you out on making a better point. Add something about how elusive these by citing their shuttle speeds. Clarify how sure handed that they are by showing that they have never fumbled. Cite a long proven record of success returning kicks by providing their ranking nationally. Add something about how good your offense is because without that relying on a kick returner is a bad thing. For the same reason make a case for your defense keeping us out of the endzone, because without that it is less significant. Then, and not until then, will you be make a solid point to which a question can be posed.

 

[VirginiaTider22]

Oh, I bet they kick it deep.... I also know that in the ACC they don't hit like we do.(I live in Virginia and have season ticketsthat are given to me free for being a high school FB coach and member of the VHSL. The ACC has nothing on the SEC in speed, strength, you name it.) You want smack talk here it is:
After either one of them boys gets that ass knocked off by a big ol SEC man........hell I bet he runs even faster the next time we kick it to him.He will getr faster as the game progresses...thats how fear works.We keep kicking it and he keeps gettin faster. Did you watch JAVY last year. Hell, this is an area we match up just fine in.
By the way, a question like that is not meant in fun, nor is the fact that you keep asking after answers are given. We will see you soon. OVERRATED comes to mind.

 

[JimNasium]

Please don't compare Clemson to Virginia. They are 8-35 against the tigers. I think Clemson, FSU, VT, BC and Miami are every bit as hard hitting as any SEC team. I don't think there will be any slack off in overall team speed either.

I know your return guy is good also and has stats simular to Fords. I would think we will kick away from him because special teams coverage has been a nagging problem for a few years. Special teams in general have been a nightmare. We blew two games the last two years snapping the ball over the punters head. It almost was the difference vs FSU. When it rains it pours.

 

[pimpsahoy]

Please don't compare Clemson to Virginia. They are 8-35 against the tigers. I think Clemson, FSU, VT, BC and Miami are every bit as hard hitting as any SEC team. I don't think there will be any slack off in overall team speed either.

I know your return guy is good also and has stats simular to Fords. I would think we will kick away from him because special teams coverage has been a nagging problem for a few years. Special teams in general have been a nightmare. We blew two games the last two years snapping the ball over the punters head. It almost was the difference vs FSU. When it rains it pours.

He never compared Virginia to Clemson. He compared the ACC to the SEC. To show us all that he is knowledgeable about ACC football he told us that he has season tickets to Virginia football. He also informed us that he is a high school football coach therefore giving further proof that he knows something about football.

To reiterate

1. He goes to Virginia football games
2. Virginia and Clemson play in the ACC
3. Sometimes teams from the ACC visit Virginia
4. He watches both ACC teams as they compete on the field
5. In his opinion the ACC isn't close in terms of speed or strength to the SEC
6. He is a high school football coach so his opinion is valued a little higher than most

 

[Guest]

Re: still asking, you just kick short?

10.17 100 JF
10.33 100 CS

You kick to them, or wimp out and kick short?
Just want an answer.

Bama has multiple players at or under 11 seconds on 100m. RB Terry Grant ran a 10.9 at a HS meet, and has broken 10.4 since then. His acceleration is equal or greater than Spiller, but he is short so his stride does not allow him to run sub 10.3 (it does make him shifty though).

I am not so worried about your punt returns, since we will not punt a lot. How well you handle kick off returns does concern me because it will play a role in where we get the ball when you punt.

 

[Guest]

I hope we kick it right to them honestly, speed isn't everything. I rather have a player who runs a solid 4.4 or 4.5 with great vision and cut back ability. Your not the only team with weapons on special teams...

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[Guest]

I hope we kick it right to them honestly, speed isn't everything. I rather have a player who runs a solid 4.4 or 4.5 with great vision and cut back ability. Your not the only team with weapons on special teams...

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[bamafan4ever]

Please don't compare Clemson to Virginia. They are 8-35 against the tigers. I think Clemson, FSU, VT, BC and Miami are every bit as hard hitting as any SEC team. I don't think there will be any slack off in overall team speed either.

I know your return guy is good also and has stats simular to Fords. I would think we will kick away from him because special teams coverage has been a nagging problem for a few years. Special teams in general have been a nightmare. We blew two games the last two years snapping the ball over the punters head. It almost was the difference vs FSU. When it rains it pours.

No, you still lose the Georgia Tech game because they won by 10 (13-3). I bet you are glad to see Jon Tenuta head for the greener pastures of Notre Dame.

Yikes. 3 points for that offensive juggernaut of yours. I agree you should have never lost the BC game last year.

The 2007 Clemson Tigers were just another example of an under-achieving, Tommy Bowden led team.

As far as comparing Clemson to Virginia, no way. I always wished the SEC and ACC would do a Vandy/Clemson switch 'em. I always thought Clemson more SEC-like than any other program any where else. You are also in the perfect spot for many natural rivalries with UT being added to USC and a periodic rival with UGA. Plus your nickname would be REALLY original in our league.
:roll:

 

[bamafan4ever]

I hope we kick it right to them honestly, speed isn't everything. I rather have a player who runs a solid 4.4 or 4.5 with great vision and cut back ability. Your not the only team with weapons on special teams...

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BigFan,

That one and the one versus LSU are my two favorite JAVY highlights but I love a bunch of 'em.

 

[athenstiger]

I hope we kick it right to them honestly, speed isn't everything. I rather have a player who runs a solid 4.4 or 4.5 with great vision and cut back ability. Your not the only team with weapons on special teams...

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you guys should kick it deep...our special teams have been poor all around the last few years...i'm not expecting any kick off return T.D.'s

i will however have to defend ford and spiller...they both have great vision and cut back ability...they are football players, not just speedsters

both are very dangerous but need help to be successful (most of the time)...there are always exceptions though

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=9CKoexZ9Jk8[/youtube]

 

[Guest]

I hope we kick it right to them honestly, speed isn't everything. I rather have a player who runs a solid 4.4 or 4.5 with great vision and cut back ability. Your not the only team with weapons on special teams...

See signature...

you guys should kick it deep...our special teams have been poor all around the last few years...i'm not expecting any kick off return T.D.'s

i will however have to defend ford and spiller...they both have great vision and cut back ability...they are football players, not just speedsters

both are very dangerous but need help to be successful (most of the time)...there are always exceptions though

[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=9CKoexZ9Jk8[/youtube]

I feel containing Spiller and Davis is a difficult challenge. They are most likely the best RB tandem in the NCAA. They are not however on the same level as McFadden and Jones that we saw last year. I think we will be fine.

 

[athenstiger]

not the best comparison though

mcfadden and jones, as a duo, got almost exactly 100 more carries than davis and spiller (458 to 359)

spiller got about 2X more receptions than jones so is used a bit more in the passing game than his counterpart

davis averaged 4.97 y/carry last season mcfadden 5.63 (granted against better d's)

one of the big difference is Clemson's willingness to rely on the passing game to get things done

truth be known...i was frustrated at times last season when we actually appeared to completely abandon the running game

i would say arky leaned on the run and CU probably has a more balanced attack

see QB stats...

C.D. 150 out of 262 for 1695 yards 18 td's 10 int's
C.H. 282 out of 433 for 2991 yards 27 td's 6 int's

 

[shiloh]

any takers? Both are faster than anyone on bamas team.

With pads changes times drastically. Yep, they're good. But, stats give a very vague idea about a player. See the Patriots.

 

[Guest]

Re: not the best comparison though

Number of carries is not the issue. DMac is one of those once in a lifetime players. I don't care how good Spiller is or Davis is, you cannot compare them to Dmac and Jones. Jones was better than either, and Dmac was better than him. Jones was a freak player...there is a reason that DMac was the #4 overall draft pick, and Jones was number 22 overall. When either of your guys are picked higher, then you can talk.

DMac could tote the rock 40 times in a game and still be breaking tackles and long runs. Most RB's would have already been on a stretcher.

mcfadden and jones, as a duo, got almost exactly 100 more carries than davis and spiller (458 to 359)

spiller got about 2X more receptions than jones so is used a bit more in the passing game than his counterpart

davis averaged 4.97 y/carry last season mcfadden 5.63 (granted against better d's)

one of the big difference is Clemson's willingness to rely on the passing game to get things done

truth be known...i was frustrated at times last season when we actually appeared to completely abandon the running game

i would say arky leaned on the run and CU probably has a more balanced attack

see QB stats...

C.D. 150 out of 262 for 1695 yards 18 td's 10 int's
C.H. 282 out of 433 for 2991 yards 27 td's 6 int's

 

[VirginiaTider22]

Actually we go to more VT games than Virginia. I should have clarified. We live approx. 90 miles outside of Blacksburg. Go ahead and post all the Clemson crap you want. I assure you the ACC is not the SEC. Keep diggin' with that shovel cause the sh#t is getting deep. I hate the ACC but the schools have treated me extremely well here in Virginia. VT is always overrated along with BC and Clemson. Hell, the whole conference is a joke when you have watched the SEC and ACC as long as I have. The only comparable teams I have seen in the PAST are Miami and F-State as far as speed and FEROCITY are concerned and they aren't playin BAMA, CLEMSON is. Aug. 30th is coming fast, so enjoy you youtube shenanigans and smack talk while it lasts.The train is coming to your sh***y little conference. I will say this, if Clemson was playing Bama last year or a few years ago I would not say a word to your snide remarks because I would be afraid of you posts after the game. Alabama will win. I assure you. I will bet the house on it. We are just good enough to beat the Clemsons of the world. Will we win the SEC? Not this year.

To be fair:

The SEC holds an 251-117-10 (.677) all-time advantage.

In the past 10 years (1998-2007) the SEC leads the ACC in head-to-head games with a 41-30-0 (.577) record.
One must also remember that Miami played in the BIG LEAST in the recent past.
Most of the ACC wins were against the historically "weaker" teams in the SEC.

 

[JimNasium]

I am amazed the NFL continues so want so many of these weaker, slower ACC players.

 

[TWJUA]

Just becasue they are fast, doesn't mean that they know how to read the field and make smart cuts. Kick to them till there is a reason not to.

Same thing with Arenas. Are they going to kick away from him becuase he returned a few last year. No. Untill Arenas hurts Clemson, they should kick to him, like anyone else.

With that thought process, nobody would ever get returns. Kick away.

MHO.

 

[Guest]

I am amazed the NFL continues so want so many of these weaker, slower ACC players.

Strength and speed is the only important thing to draft off of...rofl

 

[TWJUA]

And as far as Spiller and Davis. I also think its like Jones and McFadden. And when I say that, I mean hold your breath everytime they touch the ball. You know they are going to break one eventually. Gonna happen. You just got to hope its a 45 yard first down, and not a 45 yard touchdown. You have to hold them on 3rd down, but in doing that, it opens up other options, like the TE.

Its going to be rough.