🏈 Mark Richt Fired...

[TerryP]

Logic test:

Richt fired Sunday and a new hire announced Monday?

I'm not a big fan of the ADMIN at UGA, but I certainly don't believe they're that stupid. The public perception will be they've been going behind Richt's back ... and that's going to leave a black eye.

I really look at McGarity, along with their former AD's, and see how he's pinched pennies for a long time (especially with Richt and the football program.) I look at Kirby and I know he's going to have a list of demands and expect autonomy.

When I combine the two ... ?

I certainly don't consider UGA's handling of this as bad as what we saw with LSU, Alleva, and Miles. But, I have faith. :devil:

No, seriously. This is far from a case of "Kirby gets a phone call and says yes." I believe Kirby is smarter than that.

 

[OldPlayer]

Guys that actually played and were on the offensive and defensive side of the ball have filed. I'm not trying to impress or amuse you, so you don't have to believe anything I say. I'll allow you to bash me if nothing happens, I really don't care.

I'm also calling BS. There are always a few that want/have to leave, but nobody is going with a coach that hasn't even interviewed yet. If they're leaving, they wouldn't be practicing (and Saban can't force them to). If they're following Kirby because of playing time, why would they go somewhere where they have to sit out another year with zero playing time? The only ones that could benefit from that would be freshmen.

 

[BamaFan334]

I'm also calling BS. There are always a few that want/have to leave, but nobody is going with a coach that hasn't even interviewed yet. If they're leaving, they wouldn't be practicing (and Saban can't force them to). If they're following Kirby because of playing time, why would they go somewhere where they have to sit out another year with zero playing time? The only ones that could benefit from that would be freshmen.

I never said anyone was leaving with Kirby or any coach for that matter. You'll have to show me where I said that. I said it was a playing time issue.

 

[OldPlayer]

I just heard on the WSB-TV channel2 Atlanta,Ga. That Coach Richt will more than likely stay at UGA. So who know he may become the next Pat Dye of the East!

He will be given opportunities for other roles at UGA, but those roles haven't been determined yet. It's been mentioned that Richt "resigned" but the truth is he was fired. He will still get his buyout money so UGA can have him work a different role while he is being paid. Richt wants to coach, not be an administrator. His quote in the press release mentioned "other opportunities that may come up."

 

[OldPlayer]

I never said anyone was leaving with Kirby or any coach for that matter. You'll have to show me where I said that. I said it was a playing time issue.

Transfer rules still apply. Drop down to FCS or JC and they're okay. Go to another FBS school and sit on the bench another year. Sometimes it just requires a sit down with CNS to understand their status in the program.

 

[Bammerboy321]

UofSC started playing football in 1892. In 123 years they've hit the nine win mark six times. They've had one conference championship in six plus decades ... two reasons I have a hard time seeing them as a team that can win nine consistently.
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Which is why I said it Richt would be a perfect hire for them to get them to win 9 games on a consistent basis. No one is going to expect them to make a run to the final four, but they can become a respectable program with a solid hire like this and compete against Clemson every year, which is their main goal.

 

[Bammerboy321]

Most UGA fans thinking they're getting Kirby, keeping Pruit, and then getting Cochran. Lord fucking help us if that actually happens and the UGA fans start showing up in droves to declare themselves as the next Alabama.

 

[TerryP]

Which is why I said it Richt would be a perfect hire for them to get them to win 9 games on a consistent basis.

Take away the natural recruiting base Richt enjoyed in the state of Georgia and put him in South Carolina. Is he able to recruit as well there as he has over the past decade? That's a question I can't answer: no one can, really.

I saw someone mention a few days ago Miles would be a good fit at UofSC. I wondered how his personality would go over there. It's a far cry from being in Louisiana players homes.

Let's no forget ... with big names like Holtz and Spurrier they (UofSC) still didn't tear up the recruiting trail.

A lot of Spurrier's success in his 11 game per year winning stretch came from him being able to lock down the to player in state: Lattimore, Clowney, and a few others. The thing I have watched for more than a couple of decades is the state of SC doesn't produce talents like those often.

(IF we are to believe what the Gamecock's interim coach, Shawn Elliot, has said the UofSC program has a serious dearth of talent right now. That's going to be a rebuild ... if not A build.)

 

[Tidestalker]

I'm also calling BS. There are always a few that want/have to leave, but nobody is going with a coach that hasn't even interviewed yet. If they're leaving, they wouldn't be practicing (and Saban can't force them to). If they're following Kirby because of playing time, why would they go somewhere where they have to sit out another year with zero playing time? The only ones that could benefit from that would be freshmen.

He never said anything about players leaving to go with Kirby.... Not sure where you got that.

 

[bcracker]

If (when?) Kiffin leaves does Barnet go with him? Wasn't Kiffin his recruiter?

 

[UAgrad93]

If (when?) Kiffin leaves does Barnet go with him? Wasn't Kiffin his recruiter?

I don't think that will happen to be honest. Blake would have to sit a second year after redshirting here his first year. If a kid leaves for PT, I think they drop down to the FCS level or go JUCO route. Transferring to another D1 school just burns a year and means less time on the field.

 

[Bammerboy321]

Take away the natural recruiting base Richt enjoyed in the state of Georgia and put him in South Carolina. Is he able to recruit as well there as he has over the past decade? That's a question I can't answer: no one can, really.

I saw someone mention a few days ago Miles would be a good fit at UofSC. I wondered how his personality would go over there. It's a far cry from being in Louisiana players homes.

Let's no forget ... with big names like Holtz and Spurrier they (UofSC) still didn't tear up the recruiting trail.

A lot of Spurrier's success in his 11 game per year winning stretch came from him being able to lock down the to player in state: Lattimore, Clowney, and a few others. The thing I have watched for more than a couple of decades is the state of SC doesn't produce talents like those often.

(IF we are to believe what the Gamecock's interim coach, Shawn Elliot, has said the UofSC program has a serious dearth of talent right now. That's going to be a rebuild ... if not A build.)

Let's be honest, Spurrier and Holtz were not that motivated to consistently be on the road and recruit. Especially nearing the end of their careers, you'd be more prone to meeting Spurrier on the golf course than you would in a recruits home. Spurrer was lucky to have in-state guys like Clowney, Lattimore, and Alshon. I don't know how much success Richt would have on the recruiting trail, and depending on who UGA hires, I think it would still be challenge for him to recruit in his former state Georgia. However, that doesn't mean he wouldn't have success in Georgia. He's familiar to the state, much like Cristobal is to Miami, and is still fairly young at 55.

There's nothing more I can say about Richt other than he's always been a good HC that can get his team to win at least 8-10 games a year. Richt is familiar with the east; he's still a good recruiter; he knows about USCe. I'm sure he could figure out a thing or two to get them back into competing for the east.

 

[planomateo]

If any of you care, UGA press conference on SEC Network now.

 

[Bama Ravens]

So, anyone think Cochran would go with Smart if he does to UGA (or USCe)?

 

[planomateo]

Watching this presser, Greg McGarity at times looks uncomfortable with some of the things that Mark is saying.

In the last few days, we've been able to witness two big time head coaches open themselves up (Les Miles and Mark Richt). Pretty cool to have this insight and pretty cool how both have handled things.

Color me impressed with both of them.

 

[JoshB]

People actually believe Kirby is leaving without even interviewing... okay...

 

[TheChief]

Some thoughts on the whole coaching situation and whatnot:

Saban - "I don't know what the world's coming to in our profession." I'll tell you then. You make millions and millions of dollars. That's what it's come to. Win. Saban, you're the best there is. You certainly earn your money. Frankly, there aren't many in your profession that earn their paycheck. If I'm an athletic director, why should I pay you four or five million dollars a year and not get some type of hardware every few years? That's what it's come to. Coaches created it. Live with it.

By the way, I need to wipe my tears with a million or two of your FIFTEEEN MILLION DOLLAR BUYOUT.

On nine wins a year - Nine wins ain't what it used to be. Once upon a time you had 10 or 11 games to win nine. Nowadays, you play twelve games a season without even counting bowls and championship games. Ten or eleven is the new nine. All coaching records and season records should indicate this fact for those too dense to realize the change.

In the 1890's and early 1900's Alabama played fewer than eight games a season. The Tide didn't play a nine game season consistently until 1913. Not until 1920 did they play ten or more. Try winning nine games a season before 1920. I would imagine it wasn't easy.

FWIW - in the late 1800's Bama played as few as four games a season.

 

[rammerjammer]

@TerryP very interesting point you made about SC and the recruiting. I remember Danny Ford coming on Finebaum, right after Spurrier was hired and he echoed those sentiments to a T!! (pun intended) Said that the state of SC has about 15 athletes annually that could play in the SEC. That was just a rough gestimate, but you get the idea. Found it interesting.

Also I remember when Pruitt left to go FSU, you made innuendo that Pruitt and Smart didn't see eye to eye on a few things while working together at Bama. I find it odd that he is now being linked to possibly stay on and work for Smart??? Is this typical Fan Fantasy and internet message boards, giving a podium to the voiceless redneck behind the keyboard?

 

[TerryP]

On nine wins a year - Nine wins ain't what it used to be. Once upon a time you had 10 or 11 games to win nine. Nowadays, you play twelve games a season without even counting bowls and championship games. Ten or eleven is the new nine. All coaching records and season records should indicate this fact for those too dense to realize the change.

We're 13 removed from an 11 game season. Back then, a 10 win season was something to cherish.

Now-a-day? I'd agree. It's just not what it used to be (even with Bama and OU leading the NCAA in the most.)

A good example is found this year with Florida State. They've hit that 10 win mark in the regular season this year ... with ONE win over a ranked team. What does that really mean?

 

[Bamaholic#1]

Simple answer to all scenarios.....NO