šŸˆ LSU vs. Bama Position Breakdown

I know I’ve already responded, but this was just too much fun to walk away from. Especially after your ā€œstats don’t tell the whole storyā€ post.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /><o:p></o:p>
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QBs-<o:p></o:p>
Stats are fairly telling here. Your two QBs are HORRIBLE. It is safe to say that Auburn’s secondary has been less than stellar this season. Using that game as a barometer, your QBs won’t do much against Bama. 128 passing yards? Again, for perspective—Arkansas State was able to pass for more yards against Auburn than LSU. LSU has thrown for a whopping 1,110 yards this season.<o:p></o:p>
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RBs-<o:p></o:p>
Since you reference stats here—Ridley has 723 yards on the season. Ingram has 544 through 6 games. Richardson has 606 through 8 games, only two as a starter. So yes, individually Ridley has put up more yardage than Ingram and Richardson. Let’s look a little deeper. Your second highest rusher is Jefferson at 281. As a team you’ve rushed for 1,433 and 16 TDs. Bama has rushed for 1,495 and 17 scores. If you look statistically, yes—it is a virtual push. Looking at the players—Ridley is the only consistent force you have in the backfield. Bama can legitimately go 3-deep with Ingram, Richardson and Lacey.<o:p></o:p>
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WRs-<o:p></o:p>
Your argument at receiver makes me chuckle. Stats don’t tell everything for you but recruiting stars do? Randle, Tolliver and Shepard are all big, talented guys. They also only average a collective 102 yards/game. Again, this is a situation where stats are telling. You can have all the talent at wideout in the world, if you don’t have a QB that can get the ball to them it doesn’t really matter.<o:p></o:p>
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O-Line-<o:p></o:p>
Yes, Bama is giving up a lot of sacks this year, but it isn’t solely attributed to poor line play. McElroy has had more than enough time in the pocket; he’s just not getting rid of the ball quickly enough. LSU may well be lower in number of sacks given, but LSU was rarely able to keep Fairley out of the backfield last week.<o:p></o:p>
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D-Line-<o:p></o:p>
Nevis doesn’t play with anywhere near the consistency Glenn Dorsey did. Nevis is a good football player but when your team needed him the most, in Jordan-Hare Stadium, he had ZERO tackles for a loss. To be more specific, no one on your defensive line accounted for a tackle behind the line of scrimmage last week.<o:p></o:p>
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This one you may actually be closer. Sheppard is great, Hightower is great. The other players on both sides are solid but not superstars yet.<o:p></o:p>
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Secondary-<o:p></o:p>
Peterson is a lockdown corner—you’re dead on about that. However, it is a moot point because Bama will not look to throw the ball that often against LSU. Yes, Peterson may well be able to take Julio out of the game. Bama has more than enough weapons, including throwing to Richardson in the flat.<o:p></o:p>
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Your punter is fantastic. Peterson can be neutralized in the return game.<o:p></o:p>
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I’m not sure this is as big as you think. Bama won the last time they came to Death Valley and many of those players are still on the team today. It isn’t like they’re walking into a new environment.<o:p></o:p>
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Also, LSU isn’t getting any respect because your offense has been absolutely anemic.

It is funny you think stats don't tell the whole story, but your gut instinct certainly does, eh?<o:p></o:p>

When doing a position breakdown, only that position matters. You can't take into an account other positions. You only should look at that position by itself.
 
When doing a position breakdown, only that position matters. You can't take into an account other positions. You only should look at that position by itself.

When you don't even know that Marquis Maze and Darius Hanks play for Alabama, you don't deserve to be listened to. Maze and Hanks are both more productive than your LSU receivers and you only listed Julio Jones.

I guess LSU defenders will tackle well too...

[video=youtube;gGw7gTve6cQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGw7gTve6cQ&feature=related[/video]
 
When you don't even know that Marquis Maze and Darius Hanks play for Alabama, you don't deserve to be listened to. Maze and Hanks are both more productive than your LSU receivers and you only listed Julio Jones.

I guess LSU defenders will tackle well too...

[video=youtube;gGw7gTve6cQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGw7gTve6cQ&feature=related[/video]

Just because I didn't list them doesn't mean I haven't heard of them.
 
QB
The LSU 2 qb system really is getting better. Last week was a poor performance, but it has worked against other teams. Mcelroy holds onto the ball too long and throws uncharacteristic picks which are now characteristic. He also sucks at post game speeches
Push

RB
Ridley is second in the SEC with 723 rushing yards. Richardson has been a little disappointing only averaging 75.75 yards/game. Ingram also has not looked the same since his injury at the beginning of the season
Push

WR
LSU has 3 5star recruits at WR. Julio is only one man. There is no doubt here who has the better talent.
Advantage LSU

O-Line

LSU's line is better than last year. Bama's is worse. Bama is giving up a bunch more sacks than last year and LSU a bunch less. O-Line was the worst part of LSU's offense last year and it no longer is.
Slight advantage LSU

D-Line
Sam Montgomery is out for the year which hurts. Drake Nevis has looked like Glen Dorsey reincarnated. LSU is young here, but still very good. Dareus is banged up and no other Bama players at note worth on the line
Advantage LSU

LB
Kelvin Shepphard will be first team all SEC. Ryan Baker has been a pleasant surprise as well. Dontae Hightower is a good player. These units are pretty even.
Push

Secondary
Mark Barron is bama's best secondary player. Dre Kirkpatrick is a good cover corner. Patrick PEterson is the best in the country though. The best. On the other side Mo Claiborne is no slouch. Don't forget about the ever reliable Brandon Taylor at Safety.
Major Advantage LSU

Special Teams
Peterson is also one of the best returners in the country. Josh Jasper is an all sec kicker. Bama no longer has their great punt return specialist in Arenas.
Advantage LSU

Intangibles
Game is in tiger stadium. Miles is better off a loss than Saban. LSU is getting no respect from the national media.
Advantage LSU

LSU 30 Bama 14

i will concede an advantage to LSU at WR, D-Line, Secondary and Special teams.

in the other areas i believe Bama has the advantage. QB??? are you serious? push? Jordan Jefferson has no business QB'ing an LSU football team. Jarrett Lee throws picks like i fart... it's sooo easy.

LSU's running game is below average. Alabama has a returning heisman winner and his backup is likely the best RB in the country. i don't understand your reasoning for this assessment.
 
When doing a position breakdown, only that position matters. You can't take into an account other positions. You only should look at that position by itself.

Which would be a valid point if some positions weren't linked. In the post you responded to I referenced your QBs when discussing your WRs. Again, all the talent in the world at receiver is irrelevant if the QB can't get them the ball. There is no need to have talented receivers if you can't get them the ball.

The o-line comparison, again, QB sacks are an issue. Bama's o-line has held up well, GMAC holds the ball too long.

I notice you have yet to try and refute any arguments. You state your ridiculous claims and then respond with one-liners. You're worthless
 
LSU FAN,
By your logic, if positions are to be broken down seperate from every other position, if you guys were playing Georgia Tech and they had a decided advantage at the receiver position that would somehow givew them an advantage?????? Even thought G-Tech doesnt use their receivers at all??? This is about as much advantage as your receivers give you against us. Since you cant utilize them (read atrocious QB play) you have no advantage there. Also, because of the reason I stated we have a huge advantage in QB play.

Learn a little about football and stop regurgitating star ratings that dont matter on the field.

T
 
Mr. Food on a Stick,

You are suffering from the Dunning-Kruger effect. Your ignorance is out there for all the world to see.

Edit: The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias in which an unskilled person makes poor decisions and reaches erroneous conclusions, but their incompetence denies them the metacognitive ability to realize their mistakes.<sup id="cite_ref-morris_0-0" class="reference">[1]</sup> The unskilled therefore suffer from illusory superiority, rating their own ability as above average, much higher than it actually is, while the highly skilled underrate their abilities, suffering from illusory inferiority. This leads to the situation in which less competent people rate their own ability higher than more competent people. It also explains why actual competence may weaken self-confidence: because competent individuals falsely assume that others have an equivalent understanding. "Thus, the miscalibration of the incompetent stems from an error about the self, whereas the miscalibration of the highly competent stems from an error about others."<sup id="cite_ref-Kruger_1-0" class="reference">[2]</sup>
 
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LSU FAN,
By your logic, if positions are to be broken down seperate from every other position, if you guys were playing Georgia Tech and they had a decided advantage at the receiver position that would somehow givew them an advantage?????? Even thought G-Tech doesnt use their receivers at all??? This is about as much advantage as your receivers give you against us. Since you cant utilize them (read atrocious QB play) you have no advantage there. Also, because of the reason I stated we have a huge advantage in QB play.

Learn a little about football and stop regurgitating star ratings that dont matter on the field.

T

It is a position breakdown comparing talent. It compares which team has better talent at every position. If G Tech has better talent at WR, then they do. Compare QB's in the QB comparison not in the WR one.
 
Mr. Food on a Stick,

You are suffering from the Dunning-Kruger effect. Your ignorance is out there for all the world to see.

:rofl:

That about sums it up.

You may need to dumb it down a little for him, though.

Rather than calling it the Dunning-Kruger effect, maybe call it the 'Stunningly-dumb-Homer' effect.
 
Which would be a valid point if some positions weren't linked. In the post you responded to I referenced your QBs when discussing your WRs. Again, all the talent in the world at receiver is irrelevant if the QB can't get them the ball. There is no need to have talented receivers if you can't get them the ball.

The o-line comparison, again, QB sacks are an issue. Bama's o-line has held up well, GMAC holds the ball too long.

I notice you have yet to try and refute any arguments. You state your ridiculous claims and then respond with one-liners. You're worthless

You are missing the point. It is a talent comparison showing which team has more talent with each unit. You only compare that unit. If all positions are considered in each unit, there is no reason to separate them.
 

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