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[Nate]

The Rammer Jammer Cheer

The "Rammer Jammer Cheer" is a traditional and controversial cheer. The university briefly forbade the Million Dollar Band from playing it, a move that was met with a significant amount of criticism. Before the university's attempt to remove the cheer it was played before kickoff and at the end of the game. The cheer is now only played in the closing minutes when victory is certain. Fans cheer:

Hey Vols!
Hey Vols!
Hey Vols!
We just beat the hell out of you!
Rammer Jammer, Yellowhammer, give 'em hell, Alabama!

The name of the current opponent's mascot is substituted for "Vols", (short for Volunteers, the nickname for the University of Tennessee) except when the opponent is Auburn, in which case the name "Auburn" is used rather than their mascot. Also, when the cheer was played before kickoff, fans would replace the lyrics "We just" with "We're gonna."

The lyrics originate from "The Rammer-Jammer," a student newspaper in the 1920s, and the yellowhammer, Alabama's state bird. The cadence of the cheer was adapted from the Ole Miss cheer "Hotty Toddy" after then Ole Miss marching band director Dr. James Ferguson was appointed director of the Million Dollar Band. The cheer was long referred to as "Ole Miss", and today the drum major's signal is still the motioning of one arm in a full circle (an 'O').

Author Warren St. John entitled his 2004 bestseller about obsessive sports fans Rammer Jammer Yellow Hammer after the "Rammer Jammer Cheer."

The cheer has recently come under fire on account of its taunting nature and its use of the word "hell". In a vote at Homecoming 2005, the question was posed to students of whether the cheer should be banned. 98% of students voted in favor of keeping the cheer, while only 95 students voted to have it banned.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Alabama_traditions#The_Rammer_Jammer_Cheer

 

[RollTideinGA]

Just my opinion...no need to argue...but my opinion is that RJ and the angry elephant need to pass into obscurity. The angry elephant is a Bockrath/DuBose era emblem. The elephant stepping through the A, and the Bryant A, are better. The angry elephant looks like something off of a box of captain crunch.

Well I like Rammer Jammer. I think it is sweetest when teams run their mouth before the game (Clemson, UGA, LSU, etc) and then BAMA beats the you know out of them. :wink:

As far as the angry elephant I like that logo. This isnt your daddy's Alabama. In college sports logos change. Its called marketing. It has nothing to do with tradition or whatever. I like both logos. The old A with the elephant stepping through looks like a beer company logo.

Right now Alabama has multiple logos.

Roll Tide!

 

[Guest]

Let's not forget about the night that the more intelligent among the AuNeck nation decided it would be really cool, cow patty licking type cool, to set Tumor's corner on fire.

Yep, dem be some smaarrt un's down dere in Lee's KKKounty.

Probably some of the same geniuses who thought this:

would be a good idea. Typical AuNeckery.

http://www.tolerance.org/news/article_hate.jsp?id=319

Be sure to click on the "more images" link to verify the true depths of depravity that AuNecks are all about.

 

[Jseakin]

Strange as the post above quoted me as saying that and I didnt. Weird, anyway I understand that there may be a tradition and people like it and thats fine. I was only stating my particular distaste in the song.

 

[Guest]

Just my opinion...no need to argue...but my opinion is that RJ and the angry elephant need to pass into obscurity. The angry elephant is a Bockrath/DuBose era emblem. The elephant stepping through the A, and the Bryant A, are better. The angry elephant looks like something off of a box of captain crunch.

Well I like Rammer Jammer. I think it is sweetest when teams run their mouth before the game (Clemson, UGA, LSU, etc) and then BAMA beats the you know out of them. :wink:

As far as the angry elephant I like that logo. This isnt your daddy's Alabama. In college sports logos change. Its called marketing. It has nothing to do with tradition or whatever. I like both logos. The old A with the elephant stepping through looks like a beer company logo.


Roll Tide!

Too bad. Daddy's Alabama won lots of national championships. So you are saying we are not back...we are something new.

I think thousands would disagree.

It would be nice if we could distance ourselves from the remnants of the dark years.

As for running mouths before games...you do know that Rammer Jammer was cheered before games until recently, right? Instead of "we just," it said "we're gonna." Of course, considering the way the past decade went, "we're gonna" was inaccurate as often as it was accurate.

 

[RollTide1980]

What is up with the quotes today? That's the second time someone has been quoted for saying something they did not. :?

~Bryan

 

[Guest]

What is up with the quotes today? That's the second time someone has been quoted for saying something they did not. :?

~Bryan

It was a problem with the UBB code getting deleted in his original post. I fixed it in mine.

 

[Guest]

I prefer this logo over the angry elephant.

I wish this logo was still used. I don't find the Rammer Jammer tacky. I don't think it is always neccissary and/or deserved. This was the case at the Ole Miss game this year, but that didn't stop me from participating.

 

[Guest]

In a vote at Homecoming 2005, the question was posed to students of whether the cheer should be banned. 98% of students voted in favor of keeping the cheer, while only 95 students voted to have it banned.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University_of_Alabama_traditions#The_Rammer_Jammer_Cheer

Political Correctness is so overrated. Don’t like plug your ears! See the part where 98% students voted to keep it. So get over it, go home, or better don’t come to the games and cry about it. It's football, it's a tough sport!

The has been debated countless number of times.

 

[RollTideinGA]

Strange as the post above quoted me as saying that and I didnt. Weird, anyway I understand that there may be a tradition and people like it and thats fine. I was only stating my particular distaste in the song.

Sorry I deleted the wrong quote boxes! Oops!

Just my opinion...no need to argue...but my opinion is that RJ and the angry elephant need to pass into obscurity. The angry elephant is a Bockrath/DuBose era emblem. The elephant stepping through the A, and the Bryant A, are better. The angry elephant looks like something off of a box of captain crunch.

Well I like Rammer Jammer. I think it is sweetest when teams run their mouth before the game (Clemson, UGA, LSU, etc) and then BAMA beats the you know out of them. :wink:

As far as the angry elephant I like that logo. This isnt your daddy's Alabama. In college sports logos change. Its called marketing. It has nothing to do with tradition or whatever. I like both logos. The old A with the elephant stepping through looks like a beer company logo.


Roll Tide!

Too bad. Daddy's Alabama won lots of national championships. So you are saying we are not back...we are something new.

I think thousands would disagree.

It would be nice if we could distance ourselves from the remnants of the dark years.

As for running mouths before games...you do know that Rammer Jammer was cheered before games until recently, right? Instead of "we just," it said "we're gonna." Of course, considering the way the past decade went, "we're gonna" was inaccurate as often as it was accurate.

The comment about not being your daddy's alabama means that things have changed. I heard a commentator say that recently because how much Alabama has thrown the ball lately. Geez. Some people get so defensive.

Yes I know the history of Alabama football. Well I didnt say Bama is "back", and I didnt say they were something different. Relax, take a deep breath.

Simply stating that things change due to marketing. Yes thank goodness the uniforms have stayed the same. But merchandise will change by needs of the market. I could go into a whole deal about strategy, target audience, etc...

Yes, at 36 attending games since I was 6 I am fully aware of the pre-game cheer. Thanks! :wink:

Dont worry we are on the same team.

 

[JAshley37]

I like Rammer Jammer actually, though I think it should be reserved for certain wins. A close game should not end with the words "we just beat the hell out of you". If we blow them out and actually beat the hell out of them then I say sing it. Lately its getting a bad rep because it is sung after EVERY win. I also agree that if it's a rival game then go ahead and fire the band up and play it. So basically, while I like it, I think it's playing is getting out of hand.

On a side not, I prefer the script A over any Bama logo. But that's just me.

 

[RollTideinGA]

I like Rammer Jammer actually, though I think it should be reserved for certain wins. A close game should not end with the words "we just beat the hell out of you". If we blow them out and actually beat the hell out of them then I say sing it. Lately its getting a bad rep because it is sung after EVERY win. I also agree that if it's a rival game then go ahead and fire the band up and play it. So basically, while I like it, I think it's playing is getting out of hand.

On a side not, I prefer the script A over any Bama logo. But that's just me.

I agree on both points. RJ should only be for blowouts and my favorite Bama logo is the simple script A.

 

[BamaAirForce]

I am sure to get flammed for this!!! How could you be in a college football stadium and not get fired up when RJ is played? Has the world become so politically correct we can not have any fun?? I do not sing RJ to belittle the team we played but to push up my own team!!! I am a complete Alabama fan and I do not have to be afraid of saying it! I think some of you guys are afraid that we might be considered the "delusional fan". If I am considered that GOOD I have rooted for my team good or bad my whole life and I will continue to do so no matter win or lose. I refuse to believe I have to conform to show my support for my team because it might offend. I guess I was raised to far back in the Alabama woods to understand how saying "we just beat the hell outta you" could be so disturbing to another team or individual. If it is the word hell I have heard worse at a funeral. I am in the Air Force and the word hell is even in the Air Force song. I do not post much but when I do it is because something touches a nerve and this has. I guess I may not be as educated as you guys and maybe that is why I am this way. Or maybe just MAYBE I don't give a .... what the other team thinks because it is a game and in games there are winners and losers. It does not have a lasting effect on the teams we play...if it does they need to get over themselves and they are going to have a very distorted view of real life.

SO to those of you that like RJ Sing it loud and proud!!!! To those of you that hate it and think it is degrading don't sing it!!!

 

[Guest]

I am sure to get flammed for this!!! How could you be in a college football stadium and not get fired up when RJ is played? Has the world become so politically correct we can not have any fun?? I do not sing RJ to belittle the team we played but to push up my own team!!! I am a complete Alabama fan and I do not have to be afraid of saying it! I think some of you guys are afraid that we might be considered the "delusional fan". If I am considered that GOOD I have rooted for my team good or bad my whole life and I will continue to do so no matter win or lose. I refuse to believe I have to conform to show my support for my team because it might offend. I guess I was raised to far back in the Alabama woods to understand how saying "we just beat the hell outta you" could be so disturbing to another team or individual. If it is the word hell I have heard worse at a funeral. I am in the Air Force and the word hell is even in the Air Force song. I do not post much but when I do it is because something touches a nerve and this has. I guess I may not be as educated as you guys and maybe that is why I am this way. Or maybe just MAYBE I don't give a .... what the other team thinks because it is a game and in games there are winners and losers. It does not have a lasting effect on the teams we play...if it does they need to get over themselves and they are going to have a very distorted view of real life.

SO to those of you that like RJ Sing it loud and proud!!!! To those of you that hate it and think it is degrading don't sing it!!!

 

[Argo]

Sometimes, in a close ball game, we do actually "beat the hell" out of the opponent. Just because the score doesn't indicate that we beat the hell out of somebody, doens't mean their players won't still be feeling the game on the Wed of next week.

Just my opinion.