| FTBL Kodi Burns pulling a Mitch Mustain?

[TerryP]

According to ESPNU blogger Chris Low, who does a good job following the Southeastern Conference, Kodi Burns' parents met with Auburn coach Tommy Tuberville following Auburn's game Sept. 6 with Southern Miss, when Burns barely saw any action.

Burns didn't play a snap last week in the Tigers' 3-2 win over Mississippi State. You'd think as pathetic as Auburn's offense was in that game, Tuberville could have found a snap or two for Burns in that outing, but he said he couldn't find the right time to put the Fort Smith Northside product in.

Recall that Burns looked pretty good in the Chick-fil-A Bowl last December when new AU offensive coordinator Tony Franklin quickly put in some of his spread offense for the Tigers against Clemson.

But so far in 2008, things don't appear to be working out for the Auburn sophomore. Writes Low:

Burns-ing quarterback issues: This whole thing with Kodi Burns and the Auburn quarterback situation doesn't sound promising for the Tigers. Tommy Tuberville admitted that he met with Burns' parents following the Southern Miss game when Chris Todd was announced as Auburn's starter. Burns didn't play at all in the Mississippi State game, but remains in the Tigers' plans for the LSU game, Tuberville said. One of the holdups, according to Tuberville, is that he doesn't want Burns pegged as just a running quarterback and wants him to be ready to run the whole spread offense. Tuberville insists that he believes in Burns. But does first-year offensive coordinator Tony Franklin?

Still, we couldn't help also noting this whole Little League parents deal with Kodi Burns and his folks meeting with Tubby. Shades of Houston Nutt and the Springdale three, or whatever it was. What's with Arkansas parents and their little pampered superstars when they head off to college, anyway? Tubby better not bench Rogers' Lee Ziemba or he'll no doubt have another meeting scheduled.

 

[AlabamaMan]

I think he will play a lot against LSU, so most of it will be a non factor now.

 

[txhawg]

According to ESPNU blogger Chris Low, who does a good job following the Southeastern Conference, Kodi Burns' parents met with Auburn coach Tommy Tuberville following Auburn's game Sept. 6 with Southern Miss, when Burns barely saw any action.

Burns didn't play a snap last week in the Tigers' 3-2 win over Mississippi State. You'd think as pathetic as Auburn's offense was in that game, Tuberville could have found a snap or two for Burns in that outing, but he said he couldn't find the right time to put the Fort Smith Northside product in.

Recall that Burns looked pretty good in the Chick-fil-A Bowl last December when new AU offensive coordinator Tony Franklin quickly put in some of his spread offense for the Tigers against Clemson.

But so far in 2008, things don't appear to be working out for the Auburn sophomore. Writes Low:

Burns-ing quarterback issues: This whole thing with Kodi Burns and the Auburn quarterback situation doesn't sound promising for the Tigers. Tommy Tuberville admitted that he met with Burns' parents following the Southern Miss game when Chris Todd was announced as Auburn's starter. Burns didn't play at all in the Mississippi State game, but remains in the Tigers' plans for the LSU game, Tuberville said. One of the holdups, according to Tuberville, is that he doesn't want Burns pegged as just a running quarterback and wants him to be ready to run the whole spread offense. Tuberville insists that he believes in Burns. But does first-year offensive coordinator Tony Franklin?

Still, we couldn't help also noting this whole Little League parents deal with Kodi Burns and his folks meeting with Tubby. Shades of Houston Nutt and the Springdale three, or whatever it was. What's with Arkansas parents and their little pampered superstars when they head off to college, anyway? Tubby better not bench Rogers' Lee Ziemba or he'll no doubt have another meeting scheduled.

FWIW...Playing time was not a topic of conversation with the AD (not the coach). But Arkansas does have the market cornered on over-zealous parents. I don't remember ever hearing about similar situations at any other program/state.

 

[ericd]

I think he will play a lot against LSU, so most of it will be a non factor now.

Problem is, it probably won't matter much. If he was any better than Todd, he would be starting.

 

[Guest]

Well I have a feeling he'll get some playing time against LSU, so this should get interesting.

 

[Guest]

FWIW...Playing time was not a topic of conversation with the AD (not the coach). But Arkansas does have the market cornered on over-zealous parents. I don't remember ever hearing about similar situations at any other program/state.

Lack of strong leadership leads to weakness in every aspect of life.

Not just this particular instance with Arkansas, but with all coaches in college football today.

There are very few coaches that run their programs with iron fists nowadays. Used to be that the coach was never questioned. In times past, if a player had tried a stunt like Mustain and his mother did, he would have been summarily dismissed. Not before being roundly ridiculed and sneered at by the players and told to go straight to hell by the coach, though.

The player would have been told to get the hell off the field and don't come back, you sniveling, whining little girl.

 

[Guest]

Well I have a feeling he'll get some playing time against LSU, so this should get interesting.

All he will do is come in and get the team fired up, jump around in the huddle getting everyone revved up, and then promptly run around in the backfield for 5, 10, and 15 yard losses.

Auburn doesn't have a QB.

 

[txhawg]

FWIW...Playing time was not a topic of conversation with the AD (not the coach). But Arkansas does have the market cornered on over-zealous parents. I don't remember ever hearing about similar situations at any other program/state.

Lack of strong leadership leads to weakness in every aspect of life.

Not just this particular instance with Arkansas, but with all coaches in college football today.

There are very few coaches that run their programs with iron fists nowadays. Used to be that the coach was never questioned. In times past, if a player had tried a stunt like Mustain and his mother did, he would have been summarily dismissed. Not before being roundly ridiculed and sneered at by the players and told to go straight to hell by the coach, though.

The player would have been told to get the hell off the field and don't come back, you sniveling, whining little girl.

What stunt did they pull? I have to say Mustain was badly mistreated by nut, his staff, his family, and his backers.

The kid didn't do anything to deserve the way he was treated and pushed out the door. The only good that came out of that situation...It was the beginning of the end for Nutt.

I do agree with the difference in the way all kids, not just atheletes, are "handled" today. But that is a topic for another time and place.

 

[Guest]

FWIW...Playing time was not a topic of conversation with the AD (not the coach). But Arkansas does have the market cornered on over-zealous parents. I don't remember ever hearing about similar situations at any other program/state.

Lack of strong leadership leads to weakness in every aspect of life.

Not just this particular instance with Arkansas, but with all coaches in college football today.

There are very few coaches that run their programs with iron fists nowadays. Used to be that the coach was never questioned. In times past, if a player had tried a stunt like Mustain and his mother did, he would have been summarily dismissed. Not before being roundly ridiculed and sneered at by the players and told to go straight to hell by the coach, though.

The player would have been told to get the hell off the field and don't come back, you sniveling, whining little girl.

What stunt did they pull? I have to say Mustain was badly mistreated by nut, his staff, his family, and his backers.

The kid didn't do anything to deserve the way he was treated and pushed out the door. The only good that came out of that situation...It was the beginning of the end for Nutt.

I do agree with the difference in the way all kids, not just atheletes, are "handled" today. But that is a topic for another time and place.

Oh goodness, I hope you aren't trying to bring that huggers/haters mentality of Hog fans to a 'Bama board. 'Bama fans are pretty much all in support of our teams and coaches, we don't absolutely rip our program to shreds. Not on purpose, anyway.

It doesn't matter what happened.

It doesn't matter if Mustain Mom was in the AD's office every time Houston Nutt didn't smile at Mitchie and tell him he thought he was a fantastic player.

It doesn't matter if any style of football play was promised to Mustain Mom and her boy. It doesn't matter if he was recruited with the promise of being able to throw the ball at least 900 times a game.

No matter how wrapped up the huggers and haters were with each other, none of it was any of their business. They, nor Mitch Mom, or anyone else is allowed to dictate play calling to a head coach, not if the head coach has a brain.

Kids have been being lied to for over a hundred years by hundreds of different college football programs in order to get them to sign with them.

So what if a player is recruited as a QB and is told on the first day after arriving on campus that he will now be a TE. So what if a player is recruited as an offensive lineman, while the coaches know all along that he will never set a cleat on the offensive line.

That is a coach's decision. Decisions made to help the team win and be the best team they can be. Coddling spoon fed infants is not the job of a winning coach. They will play where they are told to play, or in Mitchie's case, will be allowed to play whenever they are allowed to play, and that is the end of it.

Overbearing mothers, no matter how destined for superstardom they imagine their petulant prodigies to be, do not have the ability to control decisions made on the field of play.

Sorry.

 

[AFF]

FWIW...Playing time was not a topic of conversation with the AD (not the coach). But Arkansas does have the market cornered on over-zealous parents. I don't remember ever hearing about similar situations at any other program/state.

Lack of strong leadership leads to weakness in every aspect of life.

Not just this particular instance with Arkansas, but with all coaches in college football today.

There are very few coaches that run their programs with iron fists nowadays. Used to be that the coach was never questioned. In times past, if a player had tried a stunt like Mustain and his mother did, he would have been summarily dismissed. Not before being roundly ridiculed and sneered at by the players and told to go straight to hell by the coach, though.

The player would have been told to get the hell off the field and don't come back, you sniveling, whining little girl.

What stunt did they pull? I have to say Mustain was badly mistreated by nut, his staff, his family, and his backers.

The kid didn't do anything to deserve the way he was treated and pushed out the door. The only good that came out of that situation...It was the beginning of the end for Nutt.

I do agree with the difference in the way all kids, not just atheletes, are "handled" today. But that is a topic for another time and place.

Oh goodness, I hope you aren't trying to bring that huggers/haters mentality of Hog fans to a 'Bama board. 'Bama fans are pretty much all in support of our teams and coaches, we don't absolutely rip our program to shreds. Not on purpose, anyway.

It doesn't matter what happened.

It doesn't matter if Mustain Mom was in the AD's office every time Houston Nutt didn't smile at Mitchie and tell him he thought he was a fantastic player.

It doesn't matter if any style of football play was promised to Mustain Mom and her boy. It doesn't matter if he was recruited with the promise of being able to throw the ball at least 900 times a game.

No matter how wrapped up the huggers and haters were with each other, none of it was any of their business. They, nor Mitch Mom, or anyone else is allowed to dictate play calling to a head coach, not if the head coach has a brain.

Kids have been being lied to for over a hundred years by hundreds of different college football programs in order to get them to sign with them.

So what if a player is recruited as a QB and is told on the first day after arriving on campus that he will now be a TE. So what if a player is recruited as an offensive lineman, while the coaches know all along that he will never set a cleat on the offensive line.

That is a coach's decision. Decisions made to help the team win and be the best team they can be. Coddling spoon fed infants is not the job of a winning coach. They will play where they are told to play, or in Mitchie's case, will be allowed to play whenever they are allowed to play, and that is the end of it.

Overbearing mothers, no matter how destined for superstardom they imagine their petulant prodigies to be, do not have the ability to control decisions made on the field of play.

Sorry.

Why don't you stop candy-coatin' it and tell us how you really feel?
:lol:

Good post.

 

[txhawg]

FWIW...Playing time was not a topic of conversation with the AD (not the coach). But Arkansas does have the market cornered on over-zealous parents. I don't remember ever hearing about similar situations at any other program/state.

Lack of strong leadership leads to weakness in every aspect of life.

Not just this particular instance with Arkansas, but with all coaches in college football today.

There are very few coaches that run their programs with iron fists nowadays. Used to be that the coach was never questioned. In times past, if a player had tried a stunt like Mustain and his mother did, he would have been summarily dismissed. Not before being roundly ridiculed and sneered at by the players and told to go straight to hell by the coach, though.

The player would have been told to get the hell off the field and don't come back, you sniveling, whining little girl.

What stunt did they pull? I have to say Mustain was badly mistreated by nut, his staff, his family, and his backers.

The kid didn't do anything to deserve the way he was treated and pushed out the door. The only good that came out of that situation...It was the beginning of the end for Nutt.

I do agree with the difference in the way all kids, not just atheletes, are "handled" today. But that is a topic for another time and place.

Oh goodness, I hope you aren't trying to bring that huggers/haters mentality of Hog fans to a 'Bama board. 'Bama fans are pretty much all in support of our teams and coaches, we don't absolutely rip our program to shreds. Not on purpose, anyway.

It doesn't matter what happened.

It doesn't matter if Mustain Mom was in the AD's office every time Houston Nutt didn't smile at Mitchie and tell him he thought he was a fantastic player.

It doesn't matter if any style of football play was promised to Mustain Mom and her boy. It doesn't matter if he was recruited with the promise of being able to throw the ball at least 900 times a game.

No matter how wrapped up the huggers and haters were with each other, none of it was any of their business. They, nor Mitch Mom, or anyone else is allowed to dictate play calling to a head coach, not if the head coach has a brain.

Kids have been being lied to for over a hundred years by hundreds of different college football programs in order to get them to sign with them.

So what if a player is recruited as a QB and is told on the first day after arriving on campus that he will now be a TE. So what if a player is recruited as an offensive lineman, while the coaches know all along that he will never set a cleat on the offensive line.

That is a coach's decision. Decisions made to help the team win and be the best team they can be. Coddling spoon fed infants is not the job of a winning coach. They will play where they are told to play, or in Mitchie's case, will be allowed to play whenever they are allowed to play, and that is the end of it.

Overbearing mothers, no matter how destined for superstardom they imagine their petulant prodigies to be, do not have the ability to control decisions made on the field of play.

Sorry.

I agree.

Nobody was trying to dictate the play calling on the field. It seems nobody bothers to get the facts on this topic. If that were true I would be one of the first to back the coach. This was a nightmare for our program and I'm glad it's over.

 

[TerryP]

I agree.

Nobody was trying to dictate the play calling on the field. It seems nobody bothers to get the facts on this topic. If that were true I would be one of the first to back the coach. This was a nightmare for our program and I'm glad it's over.

I understand that...but considering the length of time Nutt was at Arkansas, as long as he's coaching (especially at Ole Miss in the SEC, West at that) conversations about his time and actions at Arkansas are going come up repeatedly for years.

Hell, you'll find a conversation (more than one actually) each off-season here covering topics like Curry, Perkins, Fran, etc.

That's what makes college football fun, in my eyes at least. It's not about living in the past, it's about remembering the past and being able to look back at it and have some good discussions about what happened, what could have been, what didn't happen...

I look in on one Arkansas forum all year...post a bit during the football season. Personally, I'm looking forward to the weekend you guys face off with Ole Miss. That's going to be a fun weekend filled with some interesting perspectives on both sides, I'm sure.

 

[clew]

Personally, I'm looking forward to the weekend you guys face off with Ole Miss. That's going to be a fun weekend filled with some interesting perspectives on both sides, I'm sure.

We always complain about not having a true rival...We may not have that problem anymore. I'm sure there is probably more hatred there than with any other school (besides Texas). The thing about rivalries is that you actually relish the other team's misfortune. I still love to see Texas lose. I just did't have that feeling for any other SEC team until now. I loved seeing the look on Nutt's face when they lost to WF.

I hope the game today is not too lopsided! I don't think we're quite there yet, but you never know.

For those of you going to the game, be safe and have a good time in Fayetteville. Check out my favorite restaurant--Hugos--on N. Block St on the Square.

 

[TerryP]

Welcome aboard Chris...hope to see more of you as the season goes on...