🏈 Kirk Herbstreit responds to reporter's "anti-Alabama" claim

[PhillyGirl]

I don't like Herbstreit trying to classify everyone that likes NASCAR as rednecks that also like "wrastling". He lowered himself to a standard there that makes him look dumb and petty. Doesn't shock me a guy from the North would lower himself to say somthing like that about a Southerner.

Hey, we're not all bad

 

[PhillyGirl]

Isn't this the same dolt who has an insufferable compulsion to rave about the Kick Six any time Alabama or Auburn is playing a game, no matter who they are playing?

 

[PhillyGirl]

Considering most NASCAR fans didn't want Toyota to be allowed because they weren't American...yet the Camry was the most American made car in NASCAR...I think hit the nail on the head

I take more offense to the fact he said "Leave CFB analysis to the big boys"...honestly, most of these "big boys" are filled with hot air. I could give 2 shits on what they think/say...

Bet he'd sing a different song if ESPN had a contract with NASCAR.

Ha, my Camry was built in Kentucky. So joke's on them!

 

[BamaFan334]

Hey, we're not all bad

You're the best one I know!

 

[planomateo]

Not sure what I mean about that? I said it was all perception. It's the in eye of the beholder. I agree, GM took advantage of the government and the American public the way they were bailed out, and I'm a capitalist and we should have let them fail. I wouldn't sit there and say Toyota is lilly white, because all major corporations are crooked in their own right, just like any politician no matter what side you pull for and think is the greatest. Toyota and Honda are not known for producing tough trucks for over 5o years like other manufacturers, so yeah a sissy car company is how a lot of people see them. I have never seen a sixteen year old ask his/her parents to take him directly to the Toyota or Honda dealership for a car. Sure, great cars for a sixteen year old (one of my sisters drives a Civic and it is great for her) and those that want a quality car with gas mileage and longevity, but I also never see Toyota trucks on the construction site and pulling heavy trailers either. Different strokes for different folks I guess, which is fine. My wife had a Camry while we dated and she loved it dearly, and wanted another one until we had kids and it became less practical for us. 4Runners are very nice and the Land Cruiser is way overpriced if you ask me, but the folks that drive them love them. Toyota has a cult following when it comes to trucks and 4Runners, but I also know a lot of that spanned from lower priced trucks and older vehicles for teenagers.

As far as my hardcore American comment, that's not as broad as you're seemingly trying to spin it. Look no further than your native Texas to understand a little more of what I mean. Texans and Southerners are hardcore about American roots and principles that they were raised on, which built this country to be a world power. They love their American products, their American companies, and anything American over a foreign country, especially ones we've been at war with. Never seen a state or people more hardcore about their way of life than a Texan. "Don't Mess With Texas" is not just a shirt or a phrase, it's a way of life to those folks.

And I cannot believe you'd take a GTR over any Ferrari. La Ferrari is a bad A car, but I'd take an old F355 Spider of 360 Modena over a brand new GTR.

Way off topic at this point....this post has all kinda misinformation/failure in it. Yes I'm a Toyota fan, because they make a high quality product - especially the Land Cruiser.

• You should do some research on Toyota trucks before you speak authoritative on their toughness. They sell a shit load of trucks around the world that are extremely dependable, they run forever in some very tough locations - Australia, Middle East, etc.
• Funny, growing up in Alabama - I know when I was in high school alot of kids wanted a CRX, Prelude, Accord, Civic, Integra, Celica, Supra.
• A Tundra pulled the Space Shuttle to the museum. Define heavy trailer...
• Toyota will not put a diesel into a US vehicle, it's cost prohibited due to the US regulations on diesels now. They aren't planning on offering a F250/F350/2500/3500 equivalent.
• Look harder, there are Tundras/Tacoma at construction sites.
• I own two Land Cruisers , hope to buy 2 more soon.
• I'm not a native Texan, Alabama is where I'm from.
• Tundra / Tacoma's are made in San Antonio, Texas.
• And "Don't Mess With Texas" is an anti littering campaign.
• How many Southerns shop at Walmart, a company all about American products? That was about 20 years ago, maybe 30 years ago (Sam Walton day).

Not sure why you're upset with Kirk for his generalized comments at this point, you've made at least 10 in the above post alone.:think:

 

[BamaFan334]

Way off topic at this point....this post has all kinda misinformation/failure in it. Yes I'm a Toyota fan, because they make a high quality product - especially the Land Cruiser.

• You should do some research on Toyota trucks before you speak authoritative on their toughness. They sell a shit load of trucks around the world that are extremely dependable, they run forever in some very tough locations - Australia, Middle East, etc.
• Funny, growing up in Alabama - I know when I was in high school alot of kids wanted a CRX, Prelude, Accord, Civic, Integra, Celica, Supra.
• A Tundra pulled the Space Shuttle to the museum. Define heavy trailer...
• Toyota will not put a diesel into a US vehicle, it's cost prohibited due to the US regulations on diesels now. They aren't planning on offering a F250/F350/2500/3500 equivalent.
• Look harder, there are Tundras/Tacoma at construction sites.
• I own two Land Cruisers , hope to buy 2 more soon.
• I'm not a native Texan, Alabama is where I'm from.
• Tundra / Tacoma's are made in San Antonio, Texas.
• And "Don't Mess With Texas" is an anti littering campaign.
• How many Southerns shop at Walmart, a company all about American products? That was about 20 years ago, maybe 30 years ago (Sam Walton day).

Not sure why you're upset with Kirk for his generalized comments at this point, you've made at least 10 in the above post alone.:think:

Once again, you have missed the entire point from the get go. Perception, perception, perception. You seem to have gone into a discussion I technically don't care about. You've also taken an extreme route in your discussion where you act as if I said "never" see Toyota's on construction sites. Of course you're bound to see them, different strokes for different folks as I said. BUT in America, more heavy duty jobs are done by GM and Ford. You even said Toyota doesn't offer heavy duty vehicles due to regulations, which is their loss and proves my point about not being around. I personalky don't care about the Middle East and Toyota's en route to Australia. I also see Land Rovers and Mercedes over there everywhere that cost $100,000 over here, but are known for being garbage and repair nightmares. I acknowledged Toyota sells plenty of cars and trucks and has a cult following with 4Runners and Tacomas. They are going to sell a ton of vehicles, every freaking manufacturer sells a ton of vehicles in this country. You're wanting to create an argument that I'm not even trying to discuss, nor care to argue. I'm sorry, but I call bullshit on "a lot" of kids wanting all those cars you mentioned, because I stand by never hearing of anyone asking their parents to take them to buy a Camry, Civic, or anything like that. They may have drove them Nd were happy to have a good car, but they are not the car a teenager dreams of getting like a Mustang or Camero type deal. You like Toyota, good for you. I'd take a Denali over a Land Cruiser any day of the week. Again, different strokes for different folks.

"Don't Mess With Texas" may be a littering campaign, but down act like it hasn't become a slogan and battle cry for the toughness of the state. Go on Instagram and search #dontmesswithtexas and see if you get a lot of recycling feedback. It's comical how you used that to sway the conversation. Guess I shouldn't have called you a native, but I just meant a Texas citizen that was intune with the culture and society of the state.

So once again, I did make some generalizations for the sake of the discussion, but you decided to take it way beyond anywhere close where this was supposed to go.

Kirk Herbstreit is a guy that doesn't owe the public anything, and quite frankly should be bigger than generalizing a class of people to make himself sound better. He threw McReynolds into a group that likes wrestling for the sake of dumbing him down and making him come across as a dumb Southern hick. Well the WWF was created in Massachussetts, up North, and was only showcased in Northern states for many years. WCW in the South, so I'm just saying wrestling isn't just a dumb southern thing, but you catch my drift. I enjoyed it as a kid and teenager, but outgrew it, so I really have no dog in the fight, but Herbstreit hit a cord with me. He moved to Nashville because of the way he was treated in Columbus, so he came to the South for the hospitality, then wants to knock the culture. Just doesn't look good for him.

And I still can't believe you'd take a GTR over a Ferrari. C'Mon Man, Michael Irvin style, ha ha.

 

[planomateo]

Once again, you have missed the entire point from the get go. Perception, perception, perception. You seem to have gone into a discussion I technically don't care about. You've also taken an extreme route in your discussion where you act as if I said "never" see Toyota's on construction sites. Of course you're bound to see them, different strokes for different folks as I said. BUT in America, more heavy duty jobs are done by GM and Ford. You even said Toyota doesn't offer heavy duty vehicles due to regulations, which is their loss and proves my point about not being around. I personalky don't care about the Middle East and Toyota's en route to Australia. I also see Land Rovers and Mercedes over there everywhere that cost $100,000 over here, but are known for being garbage and repair nightmares. I acknowledged Toyota sells plenty of cars and trucks and has a cult following with 4Runners and Tacomas. They are going to sell a ton of vehicles, every freaking manufacturer sells a ton of vehicles in this country. You're wanting to create an argument that I'm not even trying to discuss, nor care to argue. I'm sorry, but I call bullshit on "a lot" of kids wanting all those cars you mentioned, because I stand by never hearing of anyone asking their parents to take them to buy a Camry, Civic, or anything like that. They may have drove them Nd were happy to have a good car, but they are not the car a teenager dreams of getting like a Mustang or Camero type deal. You like Toyota, good for you. I'd take a Denali over a Land Cruiser any day of the week. Again, different strokes for different folks.

"Don't Mess With Texas" may be a littering campaign, but down act like it hasn't become a slogan and battle cry for the toughness of the state. Go on Instagram and search #dontmesswithtexas and see if you get a lot of recycling feedback. It's comical how you used that to sway the conversation. Guess I shouldn't have called you a native, but I just meant a Texas citizen that was intune with the culture and society of the state.

So once again, I did make some generalizations for the sake of the discussion, but you decided to take it way beyond anywhere close where this was supposed to go.

Kirk Herbstreit is a guy that doesn't owe the public anything, and quite frankly should be bigger than generalizing a class of people to make himself sound better. He threw McReynolds into a group that likes wrestling for the sake of dumbing him down and making him come across as a dumb Southern hick. Well the WWF was created in Massachussetts, up North, and was only showcased in Northern states for many years. WCW in the South, so I'm just saying wrestling isn't just a dumb southern thing, but you catch my drift. I enjoyed it as a kid and teenager, but outgrew it, so I really have no dog in the fight, but Herbstreit hit a cord with me. He moved to Nashville because of the way he was treated in Columbus, so he came to the South for the hospitality, then wants to knock the culture. Just doesn't look good for him.

And I still can't believe you'd take a GTR over a Ferrari. C'Mon Man, Michael Irvin style, ha ha.

Agree with you on Kirk's comments, but I don't think you're generalized comments are any different.

The whole diesel 1 ton Tundra would be awesome, both Ford and Chevy would lose alot of customers if Toyota made one. But Toyota does things they own way, they've decided not to move forward with that. The government has made the benefits of diesel negligible for most in the HD truck market. Toyota's chief truck engineer has been very candid about this. It hasn't sat well with many customers who want a 1 ton diesel Tundra. Toyota has opted not to move forward with a diesel in the US, while manufacturing diesels in every other major market in the world. I owned a Tundra for 6 years, great vehicle. Fords are ugly and @#$# GM.

I'll suggest this one time, drive a Land Cruiser one time...you'll "get it" and forget about the Denali.. And no way in hell I'd drop $85k on a new one...but I'd buy one for $30k with 80k miles on it in a heartbeat.

Ironically today at work there were 2 GTR's. A brand new one and one of the old school ones - the Skyline - imported from Japan - right hand drive.

I've never been a Ferrari guy...had you said Lambo I'd have a tough decision.

I've never wanted a Camaro or a Mustang...but I did want a late 70s F150 with a 351 Cleveland in it or a 64 GTO.

And you did say never...

but I also never see Toyota trucks on the construction site and pulling heavy trailers either.

 

[BamaFan334]

Agree with you on Kirk's comments, but I don't think you're generalized comments are any different.

The whole diesel 1 ton Tundra would be awesome, both Ford and Chevy would lose alot of customers if Toyota made one. But Toyota does things they own way, they've decided not to move forward with that. The government has made the benefits of diesel negligible for most in the HD truck market. Toyota's chief truck engineer has been very candid about this. It hasn't sat well with many customers who want a 1 ton diesel Tundra. Toyota has opted not to move forward with a diesel in the US, while manufacturing diesels in every other major market in the world. I owned a Tundra for 6 years, great vehicle. Fords are ugly and @#$# GM.

I'll suggest this one time, drive a Land Cruiser one time...you'll "get it" and forget about the Denali.. And no way in hell I'd drop $85k on a new one...but I'd buy one for $30k with 80k miles on it in a heartbeat.

Ironically today at work there were 2 GTR's. A brand new one and one of the old school ones - the Skyline - imported from Japan - right hand drive.

I've never been a Ferrari guy...had you said Lambo I'd have a tough decision.

I've never wanted a Camaro or a Mustang...but I did want a late 70s F150 with a 351 Cleveland in it or a 64 GTO.

And you did say never...

Ok, I'll cede that to you. Guess I should have explained that better, but valid point by you.

Yeah, I would never drop $85,000 on any car I would drive other than an exotic, but yes, used under $45,000 I'm game. I'd give one a tey given the opportunity. We had a Yukon Denali XL and it made me say "it was like driving a Cadillac". Smoothest ride I've ever driven.

Funny you saw two GTR's today. I rarily ever see them unless I'm in Buckhead and see one. Lamborginis are nice rides as well, but they are big bulky cara for juat two folks. The newer models are badass looking though.

I figured GTO's, Firebirds, Cameros, and Mustangs were the big deal when you were younger. Atleast that's all my dad talks about. I got a 1989 Chevrolet 1500 Z-71 when I turned 16. Absolutely loved it. Settled for a lot of years and mileage to get the truck I wanted as trucks are higher resale than say a car in the $4,000-8,000 range.

 

[PhillyGirl]

You're the best one I know!

Aw shucks :dance:

 

[TerryP]

. You've also taken an extreme route in your discussion where you act as if I said "never" see Toyota's on construction sites.

Just this week alone I've seen at least five that are at construction sites, daily. I know of two that pull at least 10K every day in the sand and mud around here.

Another less heralded truck, but still a good one, is the Titan from Nissan. It's not a work truck, but the Ridgeline by Honda is a good little SUV/work truck...great ride.

Caveat: I don't drive trucks and I don't wear cowboy boots. That's not about perception it's about blue versus white collar work.

 

[TUSKtimes]

Growing up in the 70's and living through the Jimmy Carter oil embargo stuff, I can recall people literally getting out of their poorly made American made gas guzzlers and begging auto dealers to come get them. Most refused. The quality of vehicle made in America was so poor the foreign car market started to be taken a lot more seriously and the government was having to invest billions bailing out the failing American automaker. In the 80's I bought my first Toyota and haven't looked back. I still have enjoyed my American made trucks and vans over time that I've own, but I learned a long time ago if you plan on driving the wheels off a Toyota, get a calendar, you are gonna be there a while

 

[50+yeartidefan]

Unless Katy Perry is on the set, in which case he gets all googly-eyed and loses track of any semblance of coherence.

Well....yea...seems to be a natural occurrence for us guys...lol