🏈 Indecision At QB Is A Disaster

[uofarolltide]

What is wrong with Nick Saban when it comes to QBs?
For one thing, he's never had a single QB at Alabama or LSU who could hack it in the NFL.
Secondly, we've had three straight QB battles that have gone on into the actual season, which is ABSOLUTELY ABSURD. Why the fuck can't the staff see who the better QB is?? Can you believe they're so incompetent with QBs that they were considering starting Alec Morris late into fall camp last year? How fucking blind are they?
Then, they short-circuited in the brain against Ole Miss last year and started the wrong fucking QB, and lost us the game, and almost lost us a chance at the title.

Now, mark my words here: Saban will start Cooper Bateman. At some point, Bateman is going to implode, we'll be in a bad position in the game, and IN COMES HURTS TO SAVE THE DAY. We'll lose that game, but the staff will finally realize that it should've been Hurts since Aug. 14, just like Coker last year.

Our staff has absolutely no instinct for what makes a good QB. I honestly don't know how they stumbled upon a real talent like Jalen Hurts.

 

[mhardiman]

The Ole Miss Game was lost last year if Bateman or Coker had started that game.

 

[bradenob]

This AGAIN???!!! Meh.....

What is wrong with Nick Saban when it comes to QBs?

Not a lot, really. He's had JP Wilson, McElroy, McCarron, Sims, and Coker. Look at the # of interceptions, the TD/interception ratio, the # of wins, and the total number of SEC championships, playoff appearances, and championships rings among that group - it's pretty impressive.

For one thing, he's never had a single QB at Alabama or LSU who could hack it in the NFL.

Urban Meyer is probably the second best coach in NCAA football - how many has he had? Pete Carroll was a great coach with a great program at USC - how many has he had? And Spurrier?

Saban has had Marcus Randall, Matt Mauk, Jamarcus Russell, Greg McElroy, and AJ McCarron - all have been on NFL rosters for the regular season, and some of them played. Granted, none have been impressive, but again, what head coach can you name that has had GREAT success with multiple QBs since Lavell Edwards?

Secondly, we've had three straight QB battles that have gone on into the actual season, which is ABSOLUTELY ABSURD. Why the **** can't the staff see who the better QB is?? Can you believe they're so incompetent with QBs that they were considering starting Alec Morris late into fall camp last year? How ******* blind are they?

Concerning Alec Morris, he was showing the most knowledge of the system, and the best ability to change the play. Not necessarily the most accurate or athletic, so he lost out. But the staff has repeatedly explained that, when one guy is leading for a few days, but not convincing, and then ANOTHER seems to lead better and perform better for a few days, how can it NOT be difficult to decide? Someone HAS to separate!

Then, they short-circuited in the brain against Ole Miss last year and started the wrong ******* QB, and lost us the game, and almost lost us a chance at the title.

I wouldn't even say that they started the wrong QB for the Ole Miss game - Bateman was adequate in the game, made some good plays; and Coker had not impressed. Jake ultimately took the bull by the horns, and led the team.

Now, mark my words here: Saban will start Cooper Bateman. At some point, Bateman is going to implode, we'll be in a bad position in the game, and IN COMES HURTS TO SAVE THE DAY. We'll lose that game, but the staff will finally realize that it should've been Hurts since Aug. 14, just like Coker last year.

I have no doubt this scenario can happen. And I have no doubt Saban will LEAN toward Bateman if no one surpasses him - he's athletic, and has the most experience. But I DO believe that if Barnett or Hurts performs best they WILL start over Bateman. And who of us had faith in Sims two years ago, or Coker last year? And yet each of those boys led us to the CFB - don't doubt that Bateman is able to do the same.

Our staff has absolutely no instinct for what makes a good QB. I honestly don't know how they stumbled upon a real talent like Jalen Hurts.

I wouldn't question our staff TOO much, lol!!! Are you serious? Look at the record. Look at the offensive success thru the years. Saban will work with the OC to use our personnel to our best advantage. Since when has the QB position been CRITICAL for our success??? It's gravy to have an outstanding QB in our system. With great defense, good skill players and a good OL, it takes a team with a great offense AND A great defense to truly challenge us, as long as we take care of the football (see the ole piss game last year). Despite not having a truly talented QB over the last several years, we have done VERY well, and we will continue to do so. Have faith, quit being so critical, and calm down. Saban and co have got this!

Roll TIDE!

 

[Bama Ravens]

Yeah, the "indecision" has killed us. Let's look at all of the times we have entered a season with a QB situation that isn't 100% decided....

Bama went into 2009 with a not 100% decided QB situation, won a title.
Bama went into 2011 with an undecided QB situation, won a title.
Bama went into 2014 with an undecided QB situation, won the SEC, went to the playoffs.
Bama went into 2015 with an undecided QB situation, won a title.

 

[uofarolltide]

You all keep giving me examples of how we were able to overcome incompetence and mediorcity at the QB position.
For example, had we given the job to Coker in 2014, we might've won the championship that year. I think he was the better choice.
Last year, indecision cost us a game in Ole Miss which was a major obstacle in our season.
The list goes on really. Think of how many championships we might have if we didn't have mediocre to subpar QB play every year.
If our staff can't differentiate between Alec Morris and Jake Coker, that tells me all I need to know about how incompetent they are when it comes to finding QBs.
Meanwhile, you look at a guy like Dan Mullen, and he's able to find Dak Prescott, a future NFL star, and bring him to MSU.
If we had Dak Prescott, we'd probably start Cooper Bateman..
Look at Jimbo Fisher. I bet every QB on his roster is better than Cooper Bateman. Same at Oklahoma. Same at OSU.

 

[uofarolltide]

I'm obv not saying Nick is a bad coach. He's the absolute best, by far.
I'm saying he has a major blind spot and weakness when it comes to finding/developing QBs
We've finally lucked into having a real QB talent on the roster (Hurts), and he's gonna start the guy who's a headcase, timid, with a noodle arm (Bateman). He's going to fall apart in an important game.

 

[JoshB]

Jesus Christ STFU

Some internet moron knows better than the guy that has won five National Championships. You are the primary example of the worst type of fans.

"We've finally lucked into having a real QB talent on the roster (Hurts), and he's gonna start the guy who's a headcase, timid, with a noodle arm (Bateman). He's going to fall apart in an important game."

1. You have no idea whether or not Hurts is the real deal. You are going off of bullshit you read on the internet. He has never played a snap in college yet you are pretending like he is the second coming of John Elway already. 2. You have no idea who he is going to stop. 3. You have no idea that he is "going to fall apart in an important game." 4. You dont know shit so please go away.

 

[planomateo]

Our staff has absolutely no instinct for what makes a good QB. I honestly don't know how they stumbled upon a real talent like Jalen Hurts.

Jump off the deep end much? I'd question the hell out of our coaching staff, clearly they don't know what the hell they are doing. #sarcasm

Take a deep breath, everything will be fine.

 

[XXL TideFan]

 

[pasadena pachyderm]

What is wrong with Nick Saban when it comes to QBs?
For one thing, he's never had a single QB at Alabama or LSU who could hack it in the NFL.
Secondly, we've had three straight QB battles that have gone on into the actual season, which is ABSOLUTELY ABSURD. Why the **** can't the staff see who the better QB is?? Can you believe they're so incompetent with QBs that they were considering starting Alec Morris late into fall camp last year? How ******* blind are they?
Then, they short-circuited in the brain against Ole Miss last year and started the wrong ******* QB, and lost us the game, and almost lost us a chance at the title.

Now, mark my words here: Saban will start Cooper Bateman. At some point, Bateman is going to implode, we'll be in a bad position in the game, and IN COMES HURTS TO SAVE THE DAY. We'll lose that game, but the staff will finally realize that it should've been Hurts since Aug. 14, just like Coker last year.

Our staff has absolutely no instinct for what makes a good QB. I honestly don't know how they stumbled upon a real talent like Jalen Hurts.

Is that you again Lebatard?

 

[TerryP]

Two examples of why Bama QB's have good decision making skills.

 

[TUSKtimes]

What is wrong with Nick Saban when it comes to QBs?
For one thing, he's never had a single QB at Alabama or LSU who could hack it in the NFL.
Secondly, we've had three straight QB battles that have gone on into the actual season, which is ABSOLUTELY ABSURD. Why the **** can't the staff see who the better QB is?? Can you believe they're so incompetent with QBs that they were considering starting Alec Morris late into fall camp last year? How ******* blind are they?
Then, they short-circuited in the brain against Ole Miss last year and started the wrong ******* QB, and lost us the game, and almost lost us a chance at the title.

Now, mark my words here: Saban will start Cooper Bateman. At some point, Bateman is going to implode, we'll be in a bad position in the game, and IN COMES HURTS TO SAVE THE DAY. We'll lose that game, but the staff will finally realize that it should've been Hurts since Aug. 14, just like Coker last year.

Our staff has absolutely no instinct for what makes a good QB. I honestly don't know how they stumbled upon a real talent like Jalen Hurts.

How do you get all that from this?

Although the competition is still in the air, the latest buzz has surrounded Hurts, the freshman. A true freshman has never started a game behind center in Saban’s tenure at Alabama, but he does not refuse to play a first-year quarterback.
“To me, I don’t look at it as whether he’s a freshman or a sophomore or a junior,” Saban said. “I look at it with what kind of maturity does he play with and not what his chronological age is or class is, aight, but how fast does he grasp what he needs to do to play his position? What kind of maturity does he go out there and compete with? What kind of decision-making or judgment? We’ll probably have more freshman play this year maybe than we’ve had for a while around here, because we feel good about some of them.
“... Now, if a guy plays quarterback and he’s a young player, I think that it will require us having patience with his development and not ask him to do things that he’s not ready to do.”

 

[BamaFan334]

I agree Hurts should be the guy, but Coker was not better nor ready over Sims. The team didn't have his back and he couldn't comprehend the playbook. Those words were from Amari Cooper, not my opinion. Hate being mean, but Coker wasn't the smartest guy around from what I heard from the team. Hurts will be there, so we'll watch it unfold.

 

[sean]

if we win, why does it matter.

it's almost as if you've already given up on the season due to one decision made by a coach who is unparalleled in today's college football world.

me? i have no reason to discount any choice he makes. he has the reputation, the experience, and the hardware to have my trust.

 

[gc90]

my thoughts are there is some validity in CNS and the QB situation at Bama.
Part of the problem is that aversion to int impedes their development. Also Bama does not pass as much for them to get tuned. I have been watching the Bamathon on ESPNU and Coker played awful at times early in season. Bama receiver and all round played horribly against Louisiana Monroe etc in addition to Ole Miss.
The offense played so bad in earlier games that its kind of strange to think we won NC later.
I did not realize how many easy ones were dropped by Ardius and Calvin early in season. I miss Norwood.

 

[TUSKtimes]

my thoughts are there is some validity in CNS and the QB situation at Bama.
Part of the problem is that aversion to int impedes their development. Also Bama does not pass as much for them to get tuned. I have been watching the Bamathon on ESPNU and Coker played awful at times early in season. Bama receiver and all round played horribly against Louisiana Monroe etc in addition to Ole Miss.
The offense played so bad in earlier games that its kind of strange to think we won NC later.
I did not realize how many easy ones were dropped by Ardius and Calvin early in season. I miss Norwood.

GREAT DEFENSE wins championships. But please keep it to yourself, we wouldn't want it to get out.

 

[OldPlayer]

It's obvious Saban sucks as a coach and should be fired. :sarcasm:

Nobody knows what Saban's mindset is right now. If he picks a QB who gets injured, somebody will complain that he didn't develop the backup. There's no real benefit to announcing his starter right now. Game plan installation hasn't started yet. The media viewing period shows everybody getting the same reps as everybody else. What happens in practice can be totally different.

I'll give Saban the room to do it his way. I have confidence despite his past failures.

 

[JoshB]

if we win, why does it matter.

it's almost as if you've already given up on the season due to one decision made by a coach who is unparalleled in today's college football world.

me? i have no reason to discount any choice he makes. he has the reputation, the experience, and the hardware to have my trust.

No, its even worse. Hes ready to give up on the season over a decision that hasnt even been made yet! And he has formed an opinion on every QB based on speculation and rumors and CLAIMS from people to be in the know.

 

[uofarolltide]

No, its even worse. Hes ready to give up on the season over a decision that hasnt even been made yet! And he has formed an opinion on every QB based on speculation and rumors and CLAIMS from people to be in the know.

Dude, you're not getting it.
I know that we're the most talented team in the country at every position except QB.
We might have a good enough team to hide our QB like usual.
My point is when does this fucking end?
At what point can we actually field a QB who strikes fear into our opponents?
My point is that the staff's QB indecision cost us a game last season, and could possibly ruin this season.
I'm incredulous as to how they've seen these QBs play for months and months and still can't narrow it down. You'd have to know NOTHING about QBs to have three guys, and not be able to tell who was better.
Thank God Cornwell is hurt, or else we'd still have FOUR QBs vying for the job, and confusing the fuck out of our coaching staff.

 

[uofarolltide]

The Ole Miss Game was lost last year if Bateman or Coker had started that game.

Totally not true. Our offense did nothing in the first half of the game with Bateman out there. We might've opened up a good lead with Coker and held the momentum.