🏈 Indecision At QB Is A Disaster

[TUSKtimes]

I think the OP has stepped on some toes, but that doesn't mean that he does not have a point.

There is a case to be made for the QB situation being mishandled last season. Those reps in spring/fall camp are so valuable. After spring, and half of fall camp you shouldn't be splitting reps equally among 4 or 5 quarterbacks. As a staff you have got to identify who you are gonna get ready and get them ready. That is what they do with all the other positions so not sure why the most important position for reps would be treated any differently.

I think that is exactly why after they committed to Coker you saw a player that got a little better every week, and a team that took their play to the next level. Is it possible had the staff not split reps between so many QB's through spring and fall camp that the Coker that emerged later in the season could have maybe been present by the beginning of SEC play last year thus not losing the OM game ? IDK

Lets face it, something IS dysfunctional about not having a QB picked out by the time the SEC schedule starts. How many camps, practices, scrimmages, and quarters of actual football does the staff need to pick a QB ? Its frustrating for everyone involved I'm sure, but the team deserves to have that distraction taken care of sooner than later IMO. Its not as if the QB competition has to stop because the head coach names a starter. If that starter sh!ts the bed then its next man up, but why not at least give the illusion that someone has won the job for the sake of the team, and the confidence of the player that supposedly won the job.

Yeah I know CNS is the GOAT, and I'm just a guy on a sports board so this is purely for the sake of conversation.

To answer that with any consistency you would have to have a real good idea of how well prepared the starter is going into game one. I'm not that one. But, Coker should have gotten better as the season went on. This was his first season to start at QB, ever, in college football. Everyone else also should be getting better as the season progresses. Historically, by the time we play Tennessee if we are not playing some of our best football, we are in trouble.

 

[JoshB]

I think the OP has stepped on some toes, but that doesn't mean that he does not have a point.

No, the fact that he doesnt have a point means that he doesnt have a point...

 

[T&B]

No, the fact that he doesnt have a point means that he doesnt have a point...

How can you be certain he has no point ? Often times points are right in front of you only to remain undetected. NASA is working on something that will detect points within a certain range, but I hear even they are having a hard time dialing it in. What I mean is maybe you just missed his point ? It happens all the time.

 

[ComeOnSon]

I told him to shut the **** up because I thought he was either a troll or not very bright (hence why I also referred to him as slow)... That is the risk you take when you give your opinion on the internet. I've been called worse and have called people worse, but I probably wouldnt have reacted to his post had it not come off so stupid to me...

Other than McCarron what hype? Until Cornwell, Barnett, and Hurts came AJ and Phillip Sims were the only four star+ QBs Saban has brought in and maybe Star Jackson (I dont remember if he was).

Ok. That's three of four listed that haven't met the hype (so far) with Hurts being an unknown at this point. But, like I said...I don't care. I thoroughly enjoy winning and if Bama continues to do it without a legendary QB..Roll Tide.

 

[JoshB]

How can you be certain he has no point ? Often times points are right in front of you only to remain undetected. NASA is working on something that will detect points within a certain range, but I hear even they are having a hard time dialing it in. What I mean is maybe you just missed his point ? It happens all the time.

No, I can clearly see what his attempted point was. It just holds zero merit... so no point.

Ok. That's three of four listed that haven't met the hype (so far) with Hurts being an unknown at this point. But, like I said...I don't care. I thoroughly enjoy winning and if Bama continues to do it without a legendary QB..Roll Tide.

Why dont you go look at every single blue chip QB recruited in the last 10 years... the rate of those QBs that "live up to the hype"... and then get back to me...

 

[ComeOnSon]

No, I can clearly see what his attempted point was. It just holds zero merit... so no point.



Why dont you go look at every single blue chip QB recruited in the last 10 years... the rate of those QBs that "live up to the hype"... and then get back to me...

You strike me as a guy with thin skin and maybe some issues with being challenged by another point of view. If I'm wrong sorr...nah, I don't care.

 

[uofarolltide]

I think the OP has stepped on some toes, but that doesn't mean that he does not have a point.

There is a case to be made for the QB situation being mishandled last season. Those reps in spring/fall camp are so valuable. After spring, and half of fall camp you shouldn't be splitting reps equally among 4 or 5 quarterbacks. As a staff you have got to identify who you are gonna get ready and get them ready. That is what they do with all the other positions so not sure why the most important position for reps would be treated any differently.

I think that is exactly why after they committed to Coker you saw a player that got a little better every week, and a team that took their play to the next level. Is it possible had the staff not split reps between so many QB's through spring and fall camp that the Coker that emerged later in the season could have maybe been present by the beginning of SEC play last year thus not losing the OM game ? IDK

Lets face it, something IS dysfunctional about not having a QB picked out by the time the SEC schedule starts. How many camps, practices, scrimmages, and quarters of actual football does the staff need to pick a QB ? Its frustrating for everyone involved I'm sure, but the team deserves to have that distraction taken care of sooner than later IMO. Its not as if the QB competition has to stop because the head coach names a starter. If that starter sh!ts the bed then its next man up, but why not at least give the illusion that someone has won the job for the sake of the team, and the confidence of the player that supposedly won the job.

Yeah I know CNS is the GOAT, and I'm just a guy on a sports board so this is purely for the sake of conversation.

Wow, somebody gets it.
and to my earlier point in the thread, if Cornwell weren't injured, I believe you'd still have 4 guys getting equal reps, which is ridiculous.
The QB situation isn't being handled well regardless of who they end up starting.
According to Crimson Boz, everyone with 2 eyes can see that Hurts is better, but apparently most people think that will have no bearing on Saban's decision.

 

[JoshB]

Wow, somebody gets it.
and to my earlier point in the thread, if Cornwell weren't injured, I believe you'd still have 4 guys getting equal reps, which is ridiculous.
The QB situation isn't being handled well regardless of who they end up starting.
According to Crimson Boz, everyone with 2 eyes can see that Hurts is better, but apparently most people think that will have no bearing on Saban's decision.

How do you know the QB's are getting "equal reps?" Because Boz said so? Because some "insider" told Cecil Hurts that (if they did, I dont even know)? Because Saban said it in a press conference? How do you know that Bateman isn't taking 80% of the first team reps in actual practice? How do you know that Bateman and Hurts aren't splitting 90% of the 1st team reps among themselves (with Barnett getting the rest)? My point in this entire damn QB crap has been YOU DO NOT KNOW, I DO NOT KNOW, NOONE ON HERE (save for maybe two or three ppl that you NEVER see commenting on this shit) KNOWS.

Crimson Boz says a lot of shit, most of it is bullshit, so take what he says with the tiniest grain of salt possible. Still waiting for Alec Morris to take control of the offense like Boz says he did last year...

 

[It Takes Eleven]

How do you know the QB's are getting "equal reps?" Because Boz said so? Because some "insider" told Cecil Hurts that (if they did, I dont even know)? Because Saban said it in a press conference? How do you know that Bateman isn't taking 80% of the first team reps in actual practice? How do you know that Bateman and Hurts aren't splitting 90% of the 1st team reps among themselves (with Barnett getting the rest)? My point in this entire damn QB crap has been YOU DO NOT KNOW, I DO NOT KNOW, NOONE ON HERE (save for maybe two or three ppl that you NEVER see commenting on this ****) KNOWS.

Crimson Boz says a lot of ****, most of it is bullshit, so take what he says with the tiniest grain of salt possible. Still waiting for Alec Morris to take control of the offense like Boz says he did last year...

If you'd been nice to Boz, maybe he'd take you with him so we'd say you weren't there, either.

 

[NickelDoubleDog]

Dissing Boz and insisting that nobody knows anything is like the metaphorical kid putting his hands over his ears and refusing to acknowledge reality because that reality is uncomfortable.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

Dissing Boz and insisting that nobody knows anything is like the metaphorical kid putting his hands over his ears and refusing to acknowledge reality because that reality is uncomfortable.

Boz was never here.

 

[JoshB]

If you'd been nice to Boz, maybe he'd take you with him so we'd say you weren't there, either.

I'd rather not have to be taken down into Boz's moms basement...

Dissing Boz and insisting that nobody knows anything is like the metaphorical kid putting his hands over his ears and refusing to acknowledge reality because that reality is uncomfortable.

You pretending like I didnt CLEARLY say that there are SOME in the know is like the metaphorical kid putting his hands over his ears and refusing to acknowlege reality because that is reality is uncomfortable.

 

[Che Boludo]

Dissing Boz and insisting that nobody knows anything is like the metaphorical kid putting his hands over his ears and refusing to acknowledge reality because that reality is uncomfortable.

Boz is a national guardsmen/potentially reservist that lives in St. Augustine, FL and somehow travels to T-town with regularity for practices and first hand accounts of scrimmages.

I call BS on most every Army claim he has made and certainly don't believe his first hand accounts.

I'm more willing to believe he had a friend of a friend relationship with Blake Sims via someone in FL. Then he has parlayed that into tight secret connections of the Tide staff. He may/may not have a friend or another friend of a friend of a friend on staff, but ZERO first hand access.

If you believe him, then you'd better be good or Santa won't come.

Don't get me wrong, I don't mind his info, which is likely another's specualtion. I just don't like what he pretends to be.

That is all.

 

[TerryP]

@It Takes Eleven

The thought dawns on me ...

When I talk or listen to avid NFL fans they are judging the quarterbacks coming through the league on titles, right? But, college fans are judging quarterbacks based on how they do in the league—titles set aside?

Just one more little thing that leaves me scratching me head.

 

[94 Grad]

Dissing Boz and insisting that nobody knows anything is like the metaphorical kid putting his hands over his ears and refusing to acknowledge reality because that reality is uncomfortable.

If his name doesn't end in Saban or Kiffin, I doubt he has any knowledge of the situation regardless of how many practices he has been to. To be fair, no one really does but maybe those two guys and I doubt their telling anyone what they really think.

Boz has some great stories, some end up being reality some don't. I have no idea where he gets them from either an insider or he makes them up in his mind... don't know don't really care, because he can never "prove" it and I would never be able to "disprove" it. However, I will say he lost me as some what "listener" when he professed as fact that last year Coker didn't start against Ole Miss due to an fever. He stated Coker had a body temperature that would have put any other person in the hospital under observations and stood by it as fact. I've been an athlete at Alabama and I've been a certified athletic trainer and I know that they NEVER would have played him later in the game with that high of a fever... he never would have even been on the sidelines. Boz never back down from his statements... not to mention all the other statements he's made that haven't even come close to coming true.

So, regardless to whatever access he may or may not have to the team, his information has a track record of missing as many times as he's correct. So, take it with a grain of salt and a large shot of Tequilla.

 

[BamaFan334]

Dude, you're not getting it.
I know that we're the most talented team in the country at every position except QB.
We might have a good enough team to hide our QB like usual.
My point is when does this ******* end?
At what point can we actually field a QB who strikes fear into our opponents?
My point is that the staff's QB indecision cost us a game last season, and could possibly ruin this season.
I'm incredulous as to how they've seen these QBs play for months and months and still can't narrow it down. You'd have to know NOTHING about QBs to have three guys, and not be able to tell who was better.
Thank God Cornwell is hurt, or else we'd still have FOUR QBs vying for the job, and confusing the **** out of our coaching staff.

While I agree with you in the opinion Hurts should start, do you show your cards before calling someone or placing a bet in poker? Why on Earth would we willingly allow a team to prep for two weeks knowing we're starting a true freshman? That's just smart on our part to keep them guessing. Sure, maybe coach is on the fence right now, but it does not benefit him to name a starter, nor the team. Chances are more likely we have multiple guys play due to injury or ineffectivness, so sharing snaps is not horrible. We don't have one clue what's going on behind a small media window. As far as years without striking fear with a quarterback, who has truly and honestly been able to do that, and on a consistent basis? Tebow is the only guy I can think of. Chad Kelly, Johnny Manziel, Prescott, Dobbs, any Ohio State quarterback, or anyone else surely never bothered me to the point where I was worried. We don't need an offense with 11 five stars. Hell, even professional teams stack with one or two superstars and have role fillers, which is what we do except we field a team with nine badasses on each side of the ball on average.

 

[BamaFan334]

Crimson Boz was always a nice guy to me, and hell, I always appreciated his insight because I enjoy football so much I like hearing anything new I can. To answer questions about his access, I know he's paired up with Tom Albetar, who still stays in contact with our guys. Don't want to believe me, fine, but based on some findings I'm correct in my words.

 

[planomateo]

Worth a listen. Speaks to the talent vs consistency discussion that have been touched on by many here.

 

[bamafan4ever]

@It Takes Eleven

The thought dawns on me ...

When I talk or listen to avid NFL fans they are judging the quarterbacks coming through the league on titles, right? But, college fans are judging quarterbacks based on how they do in the league—titles set aside?

Just one more little thing that leaves me scratching me head.

I always pull for BAMA guys to do well in the pros but I much prefer a great college QB than a good pro QB...ALL.....DAY......LONG!

 

[JoshB]

Crimson Boz was always a nice guy to me, and hell, I always appreciated his insight because I enjoy football so much I like hearing anything new I can. To answer questions about his access, I know he's paired up with Tom Albetar, who still stays in contact with our guys. Don't want to believe me, fine, but based on some findings I'm correct in my words.

I was skeptical of him from the start but when he started saying things that we outright knew were bullshit (claiming Bro broke his leg, claiming Morris was the starter and taking all the reps with the 1s, claiming Rashaan Evans tore his ACL, claiming Coker had a massive fever vs. Ole Miss, claiming to be friend with Blake Sims despite the fact that someone on here that actually does know him asked and Blake was clueless about who he was, etc.) I grew very tired of the whole gimmick he was using.