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The best player during Avery Johnson's first season at Alabama was back on campus, taking stock of the program he left behind last year.

One word came to mind after he watched the Tide during an offseason workout.

"Impressive," said Retin Obasohan. "They look fast. They look athletic. They look sharp."

Obasohan's observations only add to the buzz about basketball that can be heard around town these days, even with summer fast approaching and football at the forefront of everyone's minds. Yet there is a widespread feeling Johnson and the Tide are about to take a great leap forward in Year 3 of his tenure. The No. 7 signing class in 2017 is on campus, beginning the process of meshing with the key contributors from this past season -- most notably Braxton Key, Dazon Ingram and Riley Norris.

"I got to watch them work out a couple of times," said former Tide guard Trevor Releford. "It's going to be a good year. I don't want to put any pressure on them or anything like that. But if they keep working this summer, it's going to be a great year."

Releford is not the only one with high expectations. The Tide has caught the eye of Kentucky coach John Calipari, who recently praised Alabama at the SEC spring meetings and suggested that big things are to come for a program that tested the Wildcats this past season.

Of course, Johnson is the most optimistic. The Tide has cobbled together an ambitious non-conference schedule that includes dates with Arizona, Oklahoma and Texas. It will also play in the Barclays Center Classic in Brooklyn, N.Y. -- a tournament that should offer exposure for a program aiming to raise its profile. In formulating the slate, Alabama used analytics to pinpoint a series of matchups that would best position the Tide to land an at-large berth in the NCAA Tournament.

"We weren't ready for that our first year," Johnson said Tuesday at his basketball camp. "But I think it's another step in the right direction. We're not playing all top ten teams, but we've tried to sprinkle in some of those games that we think are going to be significant in terms of our whole resume."

Last season, Alabama was denied entry to the Big Dance after finishing 19-15 and suffering bouts of inconsistency. The Tide hasn't participated in the spectacle of March Madness since 2012, when Releford was manning the point.

But the infusion of talent, led by McDonald's All-American guard Collin Sexton, is expected to lead Alabama out of the wilderness.

"I think there is a possibility they will be ready early in the season compared to maybe some of the other freshman classes," Johnson said. "That's a positive. We don't know if all of them are going to be in a rotation. But they will have an opportunity to be in a rotation. I think they have done a nice job in picking up on all of the terminology that we have shared with them about our system.

"They're young and very energetic. All of our freshmen can play and they all have different strengths. It's a renewed type of energy and it's pretty interesting how that dynamic is playing out on the court."

It's among the reasons why Johnson senses that something is different about Alabama basketball this offseason -- his third since taking the job in 2015.

"The anticipation, the enthusiasm, the excitement," he said. "It's kind of what we have been after."

Well, it's finally here. And it's not going away anytime soon.

'Impressive' Alabama creating offseason buzz
 
It has, in all honesty, been a mixed review for CAJ this off-season. It appears things have settled down with our staff and Key and Davis have settled back into the fold, this could be the big breakout year our basketball program has been desperately needing for the longest. I appreciate golf and gymnastics and softball but it's way past time to get basketball and baseball back into the big 3,
 
Fans excited about the progress of the team, the future and what it holds. Coach's around the conference, like Cal, talking about good this next season's team can be. Every bit of what I've read, until today, has been positive.

I thought I was fairly complimentary of the direction basketball is heading.

It has, in all honesty, been a mixed review for CAJ this off-season. It appears things have settled down with our staff and Key and Davis have settled back into the fold, this could be the big breakout year our basketball program has been desperately needing for the longest. I appreciate golf and gymnastics and softball but it's way past time to get basketball and baseball back into the big 3,

You don't have to subscribe to homerism to appreciate something was going astray with our staff and team this off-season and someone got fired. Having the core of our players happy and wanting to come back is as important as the kids coming in.
 
You don't have to subscribe to homerism to appreciate something was going astray with our staff and team this off-season and someone got fired. Having the core of our players happy and wanting to come back is as important as the kids coming in.
On the other hand, having a player chose to explore his options with the NBA isn't necessarily an indication "something was going astray." Nor is having a coach "fired" a sign of anything as well considering it was a dumbass move. There's a pretty stark difference in appreciating and surmising.

Change the sport and the situation is viewed completely differently.
 
On the other hand, having a player chose to explore his options with the NBA isn't necessarily an indication "something was going astray." Nor is having a coach "fired" a sign of anything as well considering it was a dumbass move. There's a pretty stark difference in appreciating and surmising.

Change the sport and the situation is viewed completely differently.

Well, let's change it to baseball then. Let's hypothetically assume all is not well with the internal harmony within our baseball program and after the season concludes we get an inordinate number of players showing a spirit of discontent by declaring they are transferring out of the program. Would it be logical for the average fan to assume that things are getting sideways at the top? Or do we simply wonder why such an anomaly has occurred and blame it on the kids? If this actually had happened to the baseball team, what would you have done?
 
Well, let's change it to baseball then. Let's hypothetically assume all is not well with the internal harmony within our baseball program and after the season concludes we get an inordinate number of players showing a spirit of discontent by declaring they are transferring out of the program. Would it be logical for the average fan to assume that things are getting sideways at the top? Or do we simply wonder why such an anomaly has occurred and blame it on the kids? If this actually had happened to the baseball team, what would you have done?

Your analogy falls apart with one phrase, "an inordinate number of players." We're talking one player, realistically. You mention internal harmony. Where are you pulling that one from? There is no reason to even suggest there was an internal harmony problem with the basketball program.

There are two storylines this off-season. One, Braxton Key. And two, Bob Simon (with Davis as an after-effect.) Neither is evidence of a problem within the basketball program.
 
You had 1 kid transfer out, Nick King, because he was simply too sick to contribute last season and knew his chances would be limited this fall. Davis contemplated transferring based on some bad information, see assistant Simon. Key tested the waters for the NBA draft, which is pretty smart to be honest. If you want a legit program, you want kids that truly have a shot of being 1 and done kids or those that at least have a shot at being 1 and done.
To use the baseball program as a hypothetical situation would have meant 10-12 players transferring out of the program. With what happened this Spring, we should have seen at least that many wanting to get away from Goff. Instead, we had kids being told they had to leave. Jake Walters, weekend starter for 3 years was one of those kids. He was drafted as well, yet he announced that he was staying for his senior year. Goff was the problem and their was definitely plenty of issues.
 
Davis contemplated transferring based on some bad information, see assistant Simon.
I really don't even consider that to be much of a storyline. Avery squashed that stuff Simon cause so quickly to say Davis was an issue...well, the term no sequitur comes to mind. That's probably not the best descriptor, but as I see this it fits as well as any.
 
Your analogy falls apart with one phrase, "an inordinate number of players." We're talking one player. You mention internal harmony. Where are you pulling that one from? There is no reason to even suggest there was an internal harmony problem with the basketball program.

There are two storylines this off-season. One, Braxton Key. And two, Bob Simon. Neither is evidence of a problem within the basketball program.


And you bring that weak sauce to me? The fact is that Brandon Austin and Nick King did transfer and when I began to smell something was when Armond Davis announced on Twitter, April 4th, that he too was leaving the basketball program. Now behind those 3 came the announcement that Braxton Key on April 17th was entering the NBA draft. It was on this tight Timeline that assistant coach Simon gets fired around May 1st.

By the way, Armond Davis then declares that "he's had a change of heart" on May 12th and will stay at Alabama. Braxton Key decides to undeclares for the draft May 23rd.

CAJ in articles I read didn't want to discuss the specifics of any of this stuff. None of this stuff has to be to the same degree, but the cause and effect that followed the baseball team was chasing the basketball program. I hope this settles down the unrest and the kids have to want to play for Alabama and Avery Johnson to work in the long run.
 
And you bring that weak sauce to me? The fact is that Brandon Austin and Nick King did transfer and when I began to smell something was when Armond Davis announced on Twitter, April 4th, that he too was leaving the basketball program. Now behind those 3 came the announcement that Braxton Key on April 17th was entering the NBA draft. It was on this tight Timeline that assistant coach Simon gets fired around May 1st.
Weak sauce. Oh geez.

Nick can't play. Brandon wasn't going to play. He only played in six, six, game last year. That's weak sauce, my friend, if you're choosing to use an illness in one case, and a guy that wasn't seeing (and wasn't going to see) any playing time as an indication there was something amiss.

We've addressed, on more than one occasion, what happened with Davis. Like I said earlier in this thread, the situation was Davis was squashed and squashed quickly with Avery. Just because you didn't hear it, or it was a while before Davis said something publicly, doesn't mean a thing. CAJ made it known to several around the program he wanted things kept under wraps. He's maintained a very quiet stance with his comments about the program in public. He has asked, personally, for those covering the program to do the same thing.

Often we've laughed at writers covering teams like Auburn and how they are mouth pieces for their coaching staff. There's humor there due to what they say. BUT, the same thing happens at Bama and happens often. It's a theme around the basketball program under Avery.

Now, just as one example, I hinted on more than one occasion we had good news coming with Braxton long before he announced he was coming back.

I didn't comment on Davis because Avery made it known he didn't want news shared with the public. What happens in Coleman, stays in Coleman. That's about as close to a quote as you'll find.

CAJ in articles I read didn't want to discuss the specifics of any of this stuff.

And now you know why.

By the way, Armond Davis then declares that "he's had a change of heart" on May 12th and will stay at Alabama. Braxton Key decides to undeclares for the draft May 23rd.

That's when you heard about it. It is not when it happened. In a sense, it's a lot like a silent commitment in football. There are some things the staff doesn't want to show.

None of this stuff has to be to the same degree, but the cause and effect that followed the baseball team was chasing the basketball program

The are so far unrelated it's mind boggling you're trying to draw comparisons.
 
Weak sauce. Oh geez.

Nick can't play. Brandon wasn't going to play. He only played in six, six, game last year. That's weak sauce, my friend, if you're choosing to use an illness in one case, and a guy that wasn't seeing (and wasn't going to see) any playing time as an indication there was something amiss.

We've addressed, on more than one occasion, what happened with Davis. Like I said earlier in this thread, the situation was Davis was squashed and squashed quickly with Avery. Just because you didn't hear it, or it was a while before Davis said something publicly, doesn't mean a thing. CAJ made it known to several around the program he wanted things kept under wraps. He's maintained a very quiet stance with his comments about the program in public. He has asked, personally, for those covering the program to do the same thing.

Often we've laughed at writers covering teams like Auburn and how they are mouth pieces for their coaching staff. There's humor there due to what they say. BUT, the same thing happens at Bama and happens often. It's a theme around the basketball program under Avery.

Now, just as one example, I hinted on more than one occasion we had good news coming with Braxton long before he announced he was coming back.

I didn't comment on Davis because Avery made it known he didn't want news shared with the public. What happens in Coleman, stays in Coleman. That's about as close to a quote as you'll find.

And now you know why.

That's when you heard about it. It is not when it happened. In a sense, it's a lot like a silent commitment in football. There are some things the staff doesn't want to show.
The are so far unrelated it's mind boggling you're trying to draw comparisons.


"What happens in Coleman, stays in Coleman." Got it!!
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"What happens in Coleman, stays in Coleman." Got it!!
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This is a stubborn and short-sighted view. It reads as you being so determined to believe there was something amiss you'll do anything to either make someone believe you're right, or convince yourself you're right.

Take Simon and Davis. Why on earth would any Bama fan want Simon's story to be broadcast all of the interwebs? Why would any coach want his lack of discretion getting any more play than it did?

He didn't. He won't. And that should be very easy to understand.
 
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