| FTBL Herbstreet on SportsCenter last night got me thinking....

[Bamabuzzard]

I'm not disagreeing that the Big 10 isn't as strong as the SEC. I'm just tired of hearing it. So what? My left side of my body is stronger than my right.

My point is: How about we shut up about everyone else and who they play and win our games? Winners go out, play the game, and don't worry about everything else.

(FWIW: I used to talk about it till I was blue in the face as well.)

You know what I'm tired of hearing? I'm tired of hearing (right after LSU just physically dominated OSU on NC game)how OSU is going to be a national champion contender in 2008. I'm tired of OSU and other media darlings getting preferential treatment in the rankings which in turn makes their road to the BCS Championship game much easier. OSU, Notre Dame & USC can get a first down and they move up in the poles. Say what you want but how the media talks about a program plays a role in how quickly or not so quickly they move up the rankings.

The media crams Notre Dame, OSU and USC down our throats in broadcasts of games they're not even playing in. It's so obvious. Have you ever listened to Brent MUSHBURGER call a game? He's nothing more than a USC promoter along with the entire college gameday crew, and how quickly they move up the poles reflects it.

So I don't get tired of hearing how much better the SEC is than the rest of the country. Because I want it to be made very clear. We're the best damn conference in the country and no matter how much the media tries to portray otherwise the results don't lie on the field. We kick a** in championship games and have done it two years in a row (in embarrassing fashion I might add) to "THE" Ohio St. University.

 

[jocephus8179]

If they make it, I hope its opposite Georgia. I'd love to see them get drilled for the third year in a row by an SEC team.

The ridiculous Big Ten is why they are being talked up. They would be a middle of the pack team in the SEC or Big 12.

But they aren't. They are in the Big Ten. They play games just like we do.

Sorry, might be the first time you've said it, but I'm tired of hearing it...

You may be tired of hearing it, but that doesn't mean you have heard it correctly.

Ohio State doesn't play teams just like we do. Their conference is quickly becoming laughable. Their out of conference games are a ridiculous sham. They are forced, out of sheer necessity, to play at least one difficult game a year out of conference or they would be laughed out of the stadium.

Ohio State is given undeserved platitudes by the thousands of sportswriters and voters in the North who either went to the school, pull for the team, or wish to just see a Big Ten team make it.

They are currently ranked preseason consensus #1 and that too is a travesty, yet completely expected. Their extremely talented team that is talked up so much by the ESPN bobble heads has been absolutely and completely obliterated 2 years in a row.

The same excellent, talented, unbelievably gifted athletes that we are force fed information about have been made to look inept and frankly, incompetent for 2 years in a row. What in the world is going to make this same bunch of losers so much better this year?

Ohio State, even with what is essentially a mandatory tough OOC game every year just to try to seem legitimate, still consistently has one of the weakest schedules each and every year. Does this matter to the voters who suck them up like sugar? Of course not.

Let's take a look at their schedule last year:

2007-Ohio State (Big Ten)
9/1 vs. Youngstown State (non-IA)W38 6
9/8 vs. Akron (4-8) W 20 2
9/15 @ Washington (4-9) W 33 14
9/22 vs. *Northwestern (6-6) W58 7
9/29 @ *Minnesota (1-11) W30 7
10/6 @ *Purdue (8-5) W 23 7
10/13 vs. Kent (3-9) W 48 3
10/20 vs. *Michigan State (7-6) W24 17
10/27 @ *Penn State (9-4) W 37 17
11/3 vs. *Wisconsin (9-4) W 38 17
11/10 vs. *Illinois (9-4) L 21 28
11/17 @ *Michigan (9-4) W 14 3

Is this for real? Is this a football schedule or a laughable and disgustingly weak fix that has been put in?

It is the same way every single year.

Take a look at their normal in-conference opponents:

Illinois
Indiana
Northwestern
Iowa
Purdue
Minnesota
Michigan State

And then, you have to look at the OOC opponents they pick every year to fill in their schedule:

E. Illinois
Syracuse
W. Michigan
Ball State
S. Illinois
UConn
Montana
N. Illinois
C. Michigan
Idaho
E. Michigan
Pittsburgh
Kent State
Temple
ND State
Miami (OH)
New Hampshire
Nevada
Cincinnati
Bowling Green University
Akron
Youngstown State
Buffalo
San Diego State

The information I listed above is why they are so "good" every year. This is why they will almost certainly be in the NC game every year for the foreseeable future, and it is also why they will lose every NC game they are in, especially against an SEC team.

The time has come to start skipping over undefeated or one loss Big Ten teams and choose a one or two loss team from another conference to play in the NC game. The Big Ten is not competitive and a quality team from another conference would be much more appropriate than the same old, same old that they produce every year.

They are basically the equivalent of a Hawaii. Sure, they win their games but they aren't any good and anyone that doesn't have the Big Televen blinders on can plainly see that.

This is EXACTLY why we need a playoff in college football.

 

[Outlaw]

My left side of my body is stronger than my right.

Does this mean you have to sit on your right hand in order to give yourself a stranger

:lol: :lol: :lol:

That's exactly what it means.

You know what else plays a role in how quickly or not so quickly a team moves up the rankings? When they win.

 

[Guest]

Ohio State plays 60 minute games. They play 11 players vs. 11 players. They play on a football field.

Alabama plays 60 minute games. They play 11 players vs. 11 players. They play on a football field.

I've heard the argument before. It sounded the same then as it does now.

I'm not disagreeing that the Big 10 isn't as strong as the SEC. I'm just tired of hearing it. So what? My left side of my body is stronger than my right.

My point is: How about we shut up about everyone else and who they play and win our games?

Oh boy, a regulator is here. Mount up Internet regulators, there's varmits in them there boards.

 

[Outlaw]

To tell you the truth, I'm not down enough with lingo to even know what that means.

I'll just take it as an insult and say thank you. :wink:

 

[Guest]

To tell you the truth, I'm not down enough with lingo to even know what that means.

I'll just take it as an insult and say thank you. :wink:

I am sorry, Outlaw. I will explain it for you. An Internet regulator or a netcop is someone like you that tries to dictate the flow of information on a message board, group, etc...

Case in point:
Outlaw wrote:
"My point is: How about we shut up about everyone else and who they play and win our games?"

That is netcopping. Everyone is having a conversation, discussing things, and rather than add to the conversation in a meaningful way, netcop lays down the law.

Netcop, which would be you in this case, feels a need to be in total control of a thread. Netcop doesn't like for anyone to discuss anything that he has not approved because he feels he is losing control if that happens.

Netcop is ofen an irritable individual, on par with a grumpy old man. Netcop feels that if he has ever discussed any topic, even one time, that it doesn't need to be discussed again.

Netcop looks down on regular folk who dare bring up a topic that he might have already talked about to a friend over a year ago. Netcop feels that everyone is more stupid than him and way behind the times.

Does that help you understand any better?

 

[TerryP]

On the same note, he's voicing his opinion as well stating he's tired of some of these conversations.

Spell police?!? There's a group we'd be better off without but I have to admit seeing the lose/loose thing drives me crazy...along with a few others.

Outlaw is a pretty nice guy, good poster here. Get to know him Altie...you guys will enjoy each others points, I'm sure.

 

[Guest]

This generated a lot more heat than the subject merited. I'm not going to post anything else about how much the Big 10 sucks at football until the season gets underway.

:ele

We really need to have some real football to talk about.

 

[Guest]

OSU does have an outstanding shot at making another trip to the BCS game. They get back pretty much everything from a damn strong (forgive the Les Miles quote) football team from last year. I don't see USC having a huge impact on the outcome of OSU's season. I sincerely doubt we'll see two strong football teams run the table. A OSU/USC rematch in the BCS Title is a definite possibility.

I don't see UGA or UF making it all the way. The SEC is too talented top to bottom this year. If either of those teams run the table they deserve the title without playing in the BCS game. Especially UGA--road trips to South Carolina, AU, ASU and LSU and the UF game in Jacksonville. Plus, I wouldn't count Bama out against UGA. Alabama typically seems to lose a game they shouldn't but win one or two they shouldn't also. Who knows, the freshmen will have four games under their belt by then, including the huge game with Clemson and a showdown with Arkansas--which figures to be more build-up than actual show down, but still--they just might sneak up on them.

 

[Guest]

OSU does have an outstanding shot at making another trip to the BCS game. They get back pretty much everything from a damn strong (forgive the Les Miles quote) football team from last year. I don't see USC having a huge impact on the outcome of OSU's season. I sincerely doubt we'll see two strong football teams run the table. A OSU/USC rematch in the BCS Title is a definite possibility.

I don't see UGA or UF making it all the way. The SEC is too talented top to bottom this year. If either of those teams run the table they deserve the title without playing in the BCS game. Especially UGA--road trips to South Carolina, AU, ASU and LSU and the UF game in Jacksonville. Plus, I wouldn't count Bama out against UGA. Alabama typically seems to lose a game they shouldn't but win one or two they shouldn't also. Who knows, the freshmen will have four games under their belt by then, including the huge game with Clemson and a showdown with Arkansas--which figures to be more build-up than actual show down, but still--they just might sneak up on them.

This can be said about any football team in the SEC.

 

[Outlaw]

To tell you the truth, I'm not down enough with lingo to even know what that means.

I'll just take it as an insult and say thank you. :wink:

I am sorry, Outlaw. I will explain it for you. An Internet regulator or a netcop is someone like you that tries to dictate the flow of information on a message board, group, etc...

Case in point:
Outlaw wrote:
"My point is: How about we shut up about everyone else and who they play and win our games?"

That is netcopping. Everyone is having a conversation, discussing things, and rather than add to the conversation in a meaningful way, netcop lays down the law.

Netcop, which would be you in this case, feels a need to be in total control of a thread. Netcop doesn't like for anyone to discuss anything that he has not approved because he feels he is losing control if that happens.

Netcop is ofen an irritable individual, on par with a grumpy old man. Netcop feels that if he has ever discussed any topic, even one time, that it doesn't need to be discussed again.

Netcop looks down on regular folk who dare bring up a topic that he might have already talked about to a friend over a year ago. Netcop feels that everyone is more stupid than him and way behind the times.

Does that help you understand any better?

Lol thank you good sir. I don't spend enough time to know the behind the scenes lingo. My apologies for that. It does help me understand better, and for you teaching me that I thank you good man.

To be completely honest, that's the farthest from the truth than you could imagine. I'm not trying to dictate the content of this board in any way. And I definitely do not think I am smarter than everyone here and that people are behind the times. This forum is one I come to to get the ins and outs of the Tide. On NUMEROUS occasions, if I hear about something and want validity, I come here and PM someone who I know can give me an answer which I know is true. In fact, if you have a lot of time on your hand, you could probably search the forum and find some posts of mine that are very similar to the ones I'm against. Like I said, I used to be hard up on preaching about the weakness of schedules and how teams didn't deserve to be where they were, etc. I then realized every team plays the game just like we do and that every team has players just like we do that put in the time, dedication, and hard work to succeed at what they do. And for that, I respect those other teams, players, staffs, etc enough that I don't really like bashing a team's players. If that makes me a netcop, then I guess I am one.

 

[Guest]

shut it up netcop :lol:

BTW I got Kyle Smith working for me now

 

[Outlaw]

shut it up netcop :lol:

BTW I got Kyle Smith working for me now

Seriously? He still got the longgggggggg hair going? I haven't seen that cat since my Bevill days. :lol:

 

[Guest]

shut it up netcop :lol:

BTW I got Kyle Smith working for me now

Seriously? He still got the longgggggggg hair going? I haven't seen that cat since my Bevill days. :lol:

He called and asked for a job (i told to coem on up Id find something for him) He called back about 30 min later and asked "Am I gonna need to cut my hair cause Ive got some long ass hair"

I havent made him cut it yet but I bug the piss outta him about it. (its about the shoulder)