📝 Have you considered the role Dr. Rhea and his department have with recruiting? A quick peek.

[TerryP]

 

[Crimson&WhiteGecko]

Very nice.

I was thinking the other day how much difference the S&C program has been impacted Dr. Rhea. Again, to some recruits, it will matter. Others, not so much.

 

[BamaFan334]

Better lock this guy up like we did Coach Saban. He could be the bridge and support we need once Coach Saban decides to hang it up.

 

[252BAMA]

Very nice.

I was thinking the other day how much difference the S&C program has been impacted Dr. Rhea. Again, to some recruits, it will matter. Others, not so much.

They are all one play away from never playing again. It sure as hell better matter to them.

 

[Tidestalker]

I like this guy.... Seems to do a great job. Everyone is looking for an edge!! The same way other schools would be using the Dylan Moses saga against the Good Guys.... Everyone has stones to throw!

 

[TerryP]

The same way other schools would be using the Dylan Moses saga against the Good Guys...

Look at you stirring the pot.

 

[94 Grad]

Better lock this guy up like we did Coach Saban. He could be the bridge and support we need once Coach Saban decides to hang it up.

You put a guy like this with a coach like Saban and a program like Bama and you get magic for sure. I love the science behind it all!!!

 

[Tidestalker]

Look at you stirring the pot.

I'm sure Dr. Rhea is more than prepared!

 

[TerryP]

I'm sure Dr. Rhea is more than prepared!

It's the staff's MO. "This is how you'll fit in our system" vs "where are you on their depth chart."

"Here's why it's 'Built by Bama.'". No one is throwing stones from where I'm sitting (smoking and having a beer.)

 

[Tidestalker]

It's the staff's MO. "This is how you'll fit in our system" vs "where are you on their depth chart."

"Here's why it's 'Built by Bama.'". No one is throwing stones from where I'm sitting (smoking and having a beer.)

Hell of a lot tougher to throw stones to the top of the mountain than roll boulders down hill!

But in the position Saban is in, there arent many black eyes to expose. Moses is 1 situation I could see being used for negative recruiting. Not much out there to grab onto

 

[OldPlayer]

Hell of a lot tougher to throw stones to the top of the mountain than roll boulders down hill!

But in the position Saban is in, there arent many black eyes to expose. Moses is 1 situation I could see being used for negative recruiting. Not much out there to grab onto

Or it could be twisted that his S&C was so good that he played the bulk of a season with an injury that wasn’t uncovered until late.

 

[Tidestalker]

Or it could be twisted that his S&C was so good that he played the bulk of a season with an injury that wasn’t uncovered until late.

Na.... not really... LOL.

The bad news is you can't twist his contract & undrafted status... The good news is there are bunches of other guys' who've cashed in - More than any other school by far.

I'm just saying schools will be grasping for straws, and that's the easiest one to grab. Dr. Rhea's tweet just made me think of one of the VERY FEW questionable issues with this staff... Especially that off field staff who it appears mostly did a fantastic job last season.

 

[BamaFan334]

Na.... not really... LOL.

The bad news is you can't twist his contract & undrafted status... The good news is there are bunches of other guys' who've cashed in - More than any other school by far.

I'm just saying schools will be grasping for straws, and that's the easiest one to grab. Dr. Rhea's tweet just made me think of one of the VERY FEW questionable issues with this staff... Especially that off field staff who it appears mostly did a fantastic job last season.

Moses could have told them to not take him off the field. How many times in the past have we heard of shots and decisions being made to get through it? In all of sports, not just Alabama football.

 

[TerryP]

Na.... not really... LOL.

The bad news is you can't twist his contract & undrafted status... The good news is there are bunches of other guys' who've cashed in - More than any other school by far.

I'm just saying schools will be grasping for straws, and that's the easiest one to grab. Dr. Rhea's tweet just made me think of one of the VERY FEW questionable issues with this staff... Especially that off field staff who it appears mostly did a fantastic job last season.

He tore his meniscus in the third game of the season but still made it through the entire season registering 80 tackles and 6.5 TFL. With a torn meniscus but the S&C department had nothing to do with his ability to make it through the season?

He was plagued with injuries throughout his time at Bama. Add C-19 to his history and it had Dylan considered transferring—but he didn't. Why? Because his family wanted him to remain at Bama under the current staff. His family.

Now you want to suggest his brother is going to look elsewhere because of his career at Bama? A career here that his family insisted on his completion? But, that very career is what schools are going to use against Bama in recruiting? I mean, you're suggesting a rival school is going to tell his brother and his parents, "y'all made a bad decision?"

It's pure speculation flying in the face of reality and truth. You're projecting things here with no knowledge of the brother, Dylan, or his family and their thoughts.

Close with a question.

What's UGA going to say? Their program, meaning Bama, isn't good for the kid when their program, UGA's, is built to mirror Bama's?

 

[Tidestalker]

He tore his meniscus in the third game of the season but still made it through the entire season registering 80 tackles and 6.5 TFL. With a torn meniscus but the S&C department had nothing to do with his ability to make it through the season?

He was plagued with injuries throughout his time at Bama. Add C-19 to his history and it had Dylan considered transferring—but he didn't. Why? Because his family wanted him to remain at Bama under the current staff. His family.

Now you want to suggest his brother is going to look elsewhere because of his career at Bama? A career here that his family insisted on his completion? But, that very career is what schools are going to use against Bama in recruiting? I mean, you're suggesting a rival school is going to tell his brother and his parents, "y'all made a bad decision?"

It's pure speculation flying in the face of reality and truth. You're projecting things here with no knowledge of the brother, Dylan, or his family and their thoughts.

Close with a question.

What's UGA going to say? Their program, meaning Bama, isn't good for the kid when their program, UGA's, is built to mirror Bama's?

@TerryP - I did not even know he had a brother. I think it's actually you projecting and jumping to a conclusion with a lack of knowledge in this case.

Much more simply... What I'm saying, and to reply to @BamaFan334 in the same way, is that the negative recruiting pitch is simple.

"Bama is willing to risk your health and draft status to win at all cost. Did you see what happened to Dylan Moses?"

The honest truth is that he played through the end of the season with a serious injury, to the point that he went undrafted. Financially, it was not the best decision. For Dylan himself, does he have any regrets? Maybe, maybe not. I assume he values that championship in a big way. But financially, to go undrafted after playing the entire season, that's an easy target for negative recruiters.

 

[TerryP]

I think it's actually you projecting and jumping to a conclusion with a lack of knowledge in this case.

Lack of knowledge in what case? Where?

 

[Tidestalker]

Lack of knowledge in what case? Where?

Now you want to suggest his brother is going to look elsewhere because of his career at Bama? A career here that his family insisted on his completion? But, that very career is what schools are going to use against Bama in recruiting? I mean, you're suggesting a rival school is going to tell his brother and his parents, "y'all made a bad decision?"

I've never suggested anything about his brother. This can be be a lack of knowledge about the general point I've made, and/or an inaccurate projection.

 

[TerryP]

I've never suggested anything about his brother. This can be be a lack of knowledge about the general point I've made, and/or an inaccurate projection.

Coming on the heels of his brother receiving a Bama offer and you mentioning Dylan I assumed you were talking about him. Mea Culpa.

I still see the comment as a bit of a stir. Why Dylan?

Do you think these kids are going to look at one guy, like Dylan, and set aside guys like Nico, or CJ, or Courtney?

 

[Tidestalker]

Coming on the heels of his brother receiving a Bama offer and you mentioning Dylan I assumed you were talking about him. Mea Culpa.

I still see the comment as a bit of a stir. Why Dylan?

Do you think these kids are going to look at one guy, like Dylan, and set aside guys like Nico, or CJ, or Courtney?

No worries. I probably should have heard about lil Bro by now... Gives me a reason to get back in the recruiting loop!

But - If you were a coach with with a propensity or willingness to negative recruit, and were competing against Alabama, what would you say? Seriously?

The fact that Dylan was legitimately on draft boards as a potential 1st rounder coming into the season, played every game, and ended the season undraftable due to physical issues, that's an opening. Many schools are selling individual value before team success... As crazy as it sounds... And parents might even enjoy hearing that. Now that is probably the difference in the type of character and talent combination that Alabama gets and others get, because CNS doesn't operate that way.

 

[TerryP]

But - If you were a coach with with a propensity or willingness to negative recruit, and were competing against Alabama, what would you say? Seriously?

I know they're not pointing to things like Dylan's knee. It's depth chart and Saban's age right now. Schools are not pointing to the draft when it comes to Bama. They are not pointing to "this guy was a five star and look." It just makes them look bad because they don't have the track record Bama does right now.

The fact that Dylan was legitimately on draft boards as a potential 1st rounder coming into the season, played every game, and ended the season undraftable due to physical issues, that's an opening. Many schools are selling individual value before team success... As crazy as it sounds... And parents might even enjoy hearing that. Now that is probably the difference in the type of character and talent combination that Alabama gets and others get, because CNS doesn't operate that way.

"Legitimately on draft boards" which are mock drafts on a guy returning for his senior season because of a 2019 injury to his knee. (BTW, in '19 it was an ACL. In '20, it was his meniscus.)

Name a NFL team that wants a linebacker with issues when guarding shifty back or tight ends which causes him to get "handsy" in coverage? That's not mentioning he wasn't near his old self after the ACL.

I get where you're coming from...they're going to negative recruit Dylan because he played through an injury. (We'll leave Mac out of this one.) How to they combat first round picks, or guys in the NFL at the same position? They can't. I don't see them wanting to go that route.

Negative recruiting a guy who got injured in a contact sport and his draft status dropped but let's ignore all those drafted. Yeah, even Orge isn't that stupid.