🏈 Expected coaching changes.

[Tidestalker]

I think the biggest issue is that despite how awful Shane Lee played - especially in pass coverage - there was never even the slightest attempt to give Davis or Kaho or Benton or anyone else more playing time even int he slightest. He was an absolute liability the whole season. Harris was out of position A LOT but he isn't slow like Lee, at least.

Benton started against LSU.... Played almost the whole game. Which is likely why we haven't see him since.

I think Harris is a future star, but just not ready this year. I believe he got nicked up early which probably didn't help.

Kaho is someone that we certainly need to step up next year. Even if he's the 3rd guy... He HAS to be ready.

I think it just came down to Lee being the most mentally ready to understand the defense. Whatever that's worth. That doesn't mean he actually got to the right places, but he did compete and play with physicality. Just so many times you see him plugging the wrong run hole or running hopelessly behind a WR/TE/RB... He's at least a decent option next year. Depth is always needed

 

[Tidestalker]

Rolando McClain, CJ Mosley, Reggie Ragland, Nico Johnson, Dylan Moses, hell even Dont'a. Have no clue where you're getting with that. Inside backers are a matchup issue with backs and tight ends but we have never had one that is as slow physically or as slow to react as Lee.

SDH was a guy I thought would be exposed the way Lee has... But he really came on. Turned into a heck of a player

 

[Rolltide24]

There were a good number of defenses out there better than Bama this year. Likely less complicated ones, and no doubt using less talented players. Just my observations when contemplating guys taking multiple years to learn a scheme. Maybe it’s the scheme, it shouldn’t be the talent. We were not a top D.

I hear Bud Foster is available... At least we’d hear his name 25+ times per game. Wish we could get Venables to leave Clemson. Not to come to us, but to separate from Dabo...

 

[planomateo]

Charlie Strong was just terminated from USF.

Venables' kid is on the team, he ain't leaving.

 

[MunchyOs]

Speaking of Paul Johnson, has anyone seen DA Baxter? I keep waiting for the unearthing bump of the Saban vs Shula thread

 

[TerryP]

Rolando McClain, CJ Mosley, Reggie Ragland, Nico Johnson, Dylan Moses, hell even Dont'a. Have no clue where you're getting with that. Inside backers are a matchup issue with backs and tight ends but we have never had one that is as slow physically or as slow to react as Lee.

You're only proving my point.

What were these guys doing their sophomore years? As one example, CJ was playing behind guys you've mentioned here. Ro wasn't Ro until his Junior year. Hell, two years ago you were scoffing at a post of mine when I pointed out what we were beginning to see out of Moses because, and I quote, "It's Mercer."

The point you're even bringing Moses into the equation here is befuddling. That's who Lee and Benton were supposed to back up. Meaning, time to learn the system.

Hightower? He's a different case all together. HIs ability to learn the defense as quickly as he did was shock even to Saban himself.

Again. Perspective and context. You're missing both.

Heck Josh, the only one you've listed here that could keep up with RB's and TE's was CJ. Several of these guys you're talking about were playing at a time when the offenses Bama is facing now were not the same. You know this.

 

[rammerjammer]

Hightower? He's a different case all together. HIs ability to learn the defense as quickly as he did was shock even to Saban himself.

Don't forget he blew out his knee around game 4 his freshman year (against Arky) and got to RS to really get a grasp on it as a soph.

 

[TerryP]

There were a good number of defenses out there better than Bama this year. Likely less complicated ones, and no doubt using less talented players. Just my observations when contemplating guys taking multiple years to learn a scheme. Maybe it’s the scheme, it shouldn’t be the talent. We were not a top D.

I hear Bud Foster is available... At least we’d hear his name 25+ times per game. Wish we could get Venables to leave Clemson. Not to come to us, but to separate from Dabo...

Foster has retired. He's not available.

AS to these defenses that are better this season, how many of them feature the offense we've seen from Bama these last two years.

We're right back to something I've been pointing to all season. For years we all agreed that the wide open offenses cost the defense. But now, this doesn't seem to apply.

 

[TerryP]

Don't forget he blew out his knee around game 4 his freshman year (against Arky) and got to RS to really get a grasp on it as a soph.

That had slipped my mind. Thank you.

 

[JoshB]

You're only proving my point.

What were these guys doing their sophomore years? As one example, CJ was playing behind guys you've mentioned here. Ro wasn't Ro until his Junior year. Hell, two years ago you were scoffing at a post of mine when I pointed out what we were beginning to see out of Moses because, and I quote, "It's Mercer."

The point you're even bringing Moses into the equation here is befuddling. That's who Lee and Benton were supposed to back up. Meaning, time to learn the system.

Hightower? He's a different case all together. HIs ability to learn the defense as quickly as he did was shock even to Saban himself.

Again. Perspective and context. You're missing both.

Heck Josh, the only one you've listed here that could keep up with RB's and TE's was CJ. Several of these guys you're talking about were playing at a time when the offenses Bama is facing now were not the same. You know this.

Ro wasn't Ro until his junior year yet he was an All-SEC linebacker as a sophomore... and All-Freshman in 2007... Dont'a was a freshman All-American and tore his ACL his sophomore year... CJ was a Freshman All American...

 

[BamaFan334]

Terry....there has been 12 games and 4 practice sessions per week since July. #36 has to be running an I-3 processor when an I-7 is required. If you took the time to review even snap the guy had you might fine a couple where he actually graded a +. The guy is terrible and plays ONLY because there is NOBODY behind him. Nick and his defense is in a world of shit at ILB for 2020. If you're counting on 8,35,36,10,42 to play at a high level in 2020 then fine. Not so much ovah at my seat.

Who the hell do you like? All you do is bitch about everything and everyone. But hey, that football scholly you got means you know it all, right?

 

[Tidestalker]

You're only proving my point.

What were these guys doing their sophomore years? As one example, CJ was playing behind guys you've mentioned here. Ro wasn't Ro until his Junior year. Hell, two years ago you were scoffing at a post of mine when I pointed out what we were beginning to see out of Moses because, and I quote, "It's Mercer."

The point you're even bringing Moses into the equation here is befuddling. That's who Lee and Benton were supposed to back up. Meaning, time to learn the system.

Hightower? He's a different case all together. HIs ability to learn the defense as quickly as he did was shock even to Saban himself.

Again. Perspective and context. You're missing both.

Heck Josh, the only one you've listed here that could keep up with RB's and TE's was CJ. Several of these guys you're talking about were playing at a time when the offenses Bama is facing now were not the same. You know this.

You sure CJ wasn't playing passing downs as a freshman? Maybe even starting? I'm pretty sure he was a soph...

 

[jdpas29]

There isn't one single level of that defense that didn't under-perform this year.

Secondary played well all year. Making up for and-line and lbs that we’re struggling and/or injured.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

SDH was a guy I thought would be exposed the way Lee has... But he really came on. Turned into a heck of a player

He had the speed, though, also did a great job for us shadowing mobile QBs.

 

[Tidestalker]

He had the speed, though, also did a great job for us shadowing mobile QBs.

You're right... Just coming out of HS he looked a lot like Shane Lee. Both shorter thumpers. SDH proved he can keep up and make a lot of open field tackles and coverage over the years

 

[Rolltide24]

Hightower blew out the knee his sophomore year against Arky. Played all 14 games his freshman year, as a big contributor. Still a stud what, 8 years in to the league?

 

[JoshB]

Secondary played well all year. Making up for and-line and lbs that we’re struggling and/or injured.

When??? The secondary is easily the most disappointing if for no other reason than they were SUPPOSED to be the strength.

 

[Rolltide24]

I just can’t blame our defensive woes this year on our offensive prowess. Has something to do with it? Yeah. The main culprit? Hell no. We weren’t the quick strike this year as we were last year. Yet the defense regressed. The trend lines go in different directions. Score drives and time of possession for us sure seemed like they went up this year, and the opponents scoring went way up.

 

[JoshB]

I just can’t blame our defensive woes this year on our offensive prowess. Has something to do with it? Yeah. The main culprit? Hell no. We weren’t the quick strike this year as we were last year. Yet the defense regressed. The trend lines go in different directions. Score drives and time of possession for us sure seemed like they went up this year, and the opponents scoring went way up.

Doubled Auburn's time of possession and had super long drives. Still couldn't get them off the field.

 

[It Takes Eleven]

I just can’t blame our defensive woes this year on our offensive prowess. Has something to do with it? Yeah. The main culprit? Hell no. We weren’t the quick strike this year as we were last year. Yet the defense regressed. The trend lines go in different directions. Score drives and time of possession for us sure seemed like they went up this year, and the opponents scoring went way up.

The losses of both starting LBs, along with periodic DL injuries, hurt more than anything. As Saban said, these freshmen didn't even have anyone ahead of them in drill lines to show them what to do, had to learn it all from coaching, not following the examples of upperclassmen. If Lee commits to the S&C transformative process, his speed should pick up. Reminds me a little of Damien. Both of those guys will be better. #8 has a greater top end, though.